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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 2, 2012 -> 04:09 AM) Was just talking about the infield defense today, atrocious. Oh, OK. That's fine then. We won't be jinxed by that specific type of mockery of one facet of their game. I thought you were mocking the Tribe's team and what goes round comes around. GO SOX!

Sale, AJ, home runs.

Sale you are the man! And AJ with another homer? The Sox win when they hit home runs to go with that pitching. Case closed. Lift and pull, baby. For occasional speed sprinkle in a little DeAza/Rios.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 1, 2012 -> 02:58 PM) You have become a character unrivaled on Soxtalk. It's quite commendable. Thanks. How then do you explain the success of the Braves' hitters under Walker if he's such a dog? I say congratulations to Walker for getting the credit he deserves and you blast me? From what I can tell of a hitting coach, Walker is as good as any in putting in the time and effort it takes to help ego-ridden big leaguers improve.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 2, 2012 -> 03:19 AM) Lol your first place Cleveland Indians. Don't mock the opposition until after we sweep 'em. Sox are capable of playing that bad in Game Two of the series.

See, Cowley DOES have an internet persona. This was NOT a fireable offense. Like I said, it's his Dice Clay impersonation/persona. People need to quit being so naive and realize it was a game to Cowley. Now he knows the rules. He can't do the persona anymore. He did not deserve anything but a talking to. http://www.chicagonow.com/offhanded-dribbl...the-difference/

Finally, Beckham hitting. If we can hit home runs like this at home, the team should win a lot of home games. That's a big if, though.

I will give Robin credit for getting the guys ready to play against their Central brethren. Unless it's just a coincidence we're playing better ag the Central.

DeAza is fast. That is all. 6-1 Sox

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) So pretty much they took away his twitter, and that is it. The Sun Times is a garbage tabloid, this only proves that. You really think the guy should have been suspended or fired for ill advised twitter humor?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2012 -> 07:12 PM) From the Tribune: By Monday, Cowley's Twitter account @cst_cowley had been deleted, but the dialogue was not so easily expunged from the Internet. Cowley's regular work appeared in the paper Tuesday, but his extracurricular writing did not go unnoticed by new Sun-Times editor-in-chief Jim Kirk. "Recently, a reporter in our newsroom, Joe Cowley, made offensive comments on his Twitter account," Kirk said Tuesday. "The Chicago Sun-Times is an institution with important social responsibilities, and we expect those who represent our paper to act with the respect and sensitivity that our readers deserve. Mr. Cowley's remarks were offensive and he has been reprimanded appropriately." Cowley was given a slap on the wrist and warned probably? That's about right. He's going to have to watch himself. I'd think he'll get a new twitter account when this blows over and it'll be monitored much more closely. Obviously nobody of power at the ST was reading his twitter account. I don't think it was a fireable offense but many do, so he's lucky he survived this. Nobody is irreplaceable and he probably knows that now. He should have known it after Mariotti. Nobody misses Jay now and it was a big deal back when he left.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ May 1, 2012 -> 04:06 PM) I'm fine with three. Six was too much, quite frankly. And as people have pointed out, the rivalry has really declined since we won the Series in '05. Six games is ideal IMO, but one of the options was two in each park, four games vs. the Cubs. That wouldn't be so bad.

Man, Mark's record sucks. 1-4.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 1, 2012 -> 12:36 AM) The Dixie Chicks comments were 1) made at a time where President Bush was still considered popular by a majority and 2) Cowley's comments were broadly offensive to huge groups of people, like all women in the world, all Asians and all airlines personnel. Had the Dixie Chicks waited 2-3 more years for the tide of the war to completely turn against the administration, nothing much would have been made out of those comments. With the Patriot Act, the Secret Service probably could have had them arrested (at that time) had they wanted to. That was their point in making the comments in the first place, that they weren't proud to live in a country where freedom of speech was being obliterated by PC "patriotic group think." Isn't that how we got into the wars in the first place, Congressmen and Senators were afraid to take a moral stand for fear of losing their next election? Perhaps Cowley was already on the borderline of losing his Sun-Times job and wanted to test the absolute limits where Free Speech, his role as a public figure or "pseudo-celebrity" in his mind, and workplace behavior all collided together...especially the continued battle to define where the workplace ends and begins in a digital world. As Balta pointed out, if the Sun-Times does nothing, then who's to define what is and isn't permissible in terms of a hostile working environment/discrimination/harassment? Does it then make it okay for the editor of the entertainment section of the newspaper to tell his more academically-inclined Kellogg School grad to "hottie up her picture" that will run with her weekly column? Greg or Marty...do you work with any Asian-Americans? Please go to work tomorrow and repeat verbatim the Cowley tweet about Short Round/Indiana Jones with your own version of an "Asian accent." You will last for less time than the ESPN copy editor who came up with the "Chink In the Armor" Jeremy Lin headline. I thought we were just talking about this incident. I haven't seen the short round tweet yet. I said after reading the 22 year old's story that Cowley is obviously a troubled jerk and what goes round does come around. But my position was this current flap is not a fireable offense. I'd like to see the chinese post. If indeed Cowley tweeted something to a woman about wanting to have sex with athletes, well that one is pretty bad. This current incident though ... much ado about nothing. He should be reprimanded and told to watch it. Some of the other alleged tweets seem much worse. Whatever happens, he seems like a turd who won't be able to b**** much if he gets canned cause of what he did in getting the intern canned for the same thing.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 11:54 PM) How Joe Cowley had a 22-year-old Sun-Times staffer fired for making fun of him on Twitter Well that was an interesting story. Well Cowley got the author fired for tweeting so I won't feel sorry for Joe if he gets suspended. What goes round comes round, you know? I still stand by the stuff I wrote about the pussifying of America and I still don't think Cowley should be reprimanded for what he tweeted, but the guy does seem to be a real horse's ass. That was a good article by the guy Cowley got fired. I hope it gets a lot of play cause Joe seems like a deadbeat. I don't think that author shoulda been canned either, but like he wrote, criticizing a member of the staff was prolly considered "treason." After reading this link, I think Cowley has a screw loose, or he has the Dice Clay thing down PAT. I wonder if Joe is a fan of Dice, seriously. http://deadspin.com/5616047/white-sox-beat...ts-on-minnesota

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 05:55 PM) Jon Heyman ‏ @JonHeymanCBS new #braves hitting coach greg walker doing a terrific job. atlanta is tied for 4th in runs. was 22nd last yr. Glad to see Walker getting the credit he deserves. Everything I've read about him would indicate the guy works his ass off. Maybe the Braves players actually listen. Or maybe the hitting coach doesn't matter as much as the talent (ding ding).

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 09:57 PM) He's in business in no small part because he has a contract worth many hundreds of millions of dollars, so firing him would literally be impossible unless his show reaches the point where it is losing hundreds of millions of dollars. It's like cutting Alex Rios. Joe Cowley does not have a contract worth millions of dollars, he's not worth millions of dollars to the paper, he's quite easily replaced, and the workplace lawsuits the Sun Times could be liable for could easily run into the millions of dollars if there are enough responses. QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 11:09 PM) I agree he didn't do anything illegal, but he did do something mean and sexist while representing his employer. You don't have to do something illegal to get fired. And nobody is denying him a job he is qualified for, he is getting suspended or fired for violating a workplace policy regarding sexism(presumably). I have seen it happen at my own workplace, I'm sure you have too. If he would have stuck to ripping the people he covers and kept it somewhat HR friendly, we would only be arguing about his axe to grind. He made this bed. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 11:18 PM) America is a bunch of p*****s because open sexism isn't tolerated. Our country is lost. 1.) What workplace lawsuits? What did he do that could cost the paper a lawsuit. He told the woman to get a new picture cause she looks bad in the other one. Or something dumber than that. What lawsuits could the paper lose from him being a comedian on twitter?? 2.) Ooh he was mean and sexist. Fire him. Fire all comedians like Don Rickles and Dice Clay. That's what Cowley is. 3.) yes our country is lost. It can't take a JOKE. But it keeps HR departments in business.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:43 PM) So much time was wasted telling you the ramifications of Rush's actions on his own pocketbook and airtime, so I won't waste anymore. QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:43 PM) Rush also lost literally millions of dollars in advertising revenue from companies that didnt' want to associate with him afterwards, which is an entirely reasonable corporate response 1.) Wasted? I read your comments and appreciated them. You didn't change my mind so it's all "wasted" time? Nice. 2.) I realize that, but he's still in business and not hurting for sponsors.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Greg, why do you think anything is ok because of Rush Limbaugh? QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:35 PM) I do sort of agree with Greg here...I find it odd that they enable Cowley to do all this stuff, but only when something gets picked up and made an example of do they actually pretend to care. As ss2k pointed out, Cowley tweets stuff like this all the time, and his editors are WELL AWARE of that. They enable him to do that and enjoy the attention he gets because of it. Now they want to punish him in order to save face themselves. Kind of seems hypocritical if you ask me. 2.) Thanks. You word it better than me. 1.) By citing Rush, I mean this should have a similar outcome. Apologize as Rush did to the individual person and voila ... it's OVA. Problem solved. Nothing else Joe said was anything but bad humor.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:28 PM) He's not a stand up comic, he's a columnist. There is a line he cannot cross. He crossed it. That's where we disagree. Cmon. Part of a columnist's job is to entertain, crack jokes. We may not think it's funny, but it is entertainment. That's part of his job.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) LOL, not to mention his twitter handle is CST (Chicago Sun-Times) Cowley. I mean. Come the f*** on... it's a company Twitter account the moment he uses the company to represent himself. And the company wants him to tweet apparently, which he does. All this should accomplish is some HR person now having to write out a 20 page unreadable edict on what a person can and can't say on twitter when representing the company. Seriously, attorneys out there, will Joe have a case if he sues the Sun Times after his firing? He can say he was doing his job. A columnist by nature has OPINIONS and humor. Some people get it; some don't but he was just doing his job (he can say). I'm asking all of your to go into each tweet and tell me what was so bad about any of them but the final one. And the final one gets u fired?? Cmon. It wasn't that bad to cost him a high paying job.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:23 PM) Tell you what. You go on a business trip, and tweet that kind of thing in the twitter account that has your company's name on it (CST in this case). See how long you get to keep your job. I'm trying to make a point about America. Yes most businesses would be concerned about s*** like this I guess. My point is ... WTF? Joe is a columnist. He tweets, which the newspaper obviously wants him to do. His personality apparently is that of being a prick. He takes it to his twitter account. Aside from blasting that woman in the final tweet, which is TOO personal to do to a stranger, what did he do wrong aside from being a BAD STANDUP COMIC?

Quick look at his tweets. You all give me your opinions Joe: Flight delayed because of "Mandatory Crew Rest." God forbid anyone strains themselves handing out orange juice off a cart for an extra hour. Me: That can be construed as a joke. If a standup comic says that, it MAY draw a laugh. Offensive? Maybe. Fireable? Only in America. Give me a break. Joe: I'm more likely to see a Squatch before I see a hot flight attendant. Then again, I think the airlines are hiring Squatch's to do that job. Me: He thinks they are ugly flight attendants? Big deal. Again, this is like a stand-up comic's joke. Not funny, but fireable offense? Cmon. Joe: Chick pilot. Should I be OK with that or am I just a sexist caveman? Me: He said it can be construed that he's a sexist caveman. It's a joke, folks, albeit a bad one. Joe: @SloaneMartin And when you come back, hottie up that pic a bit more. You look like the Russian icy villain from a 70s Bond movie. XOXO. Me: That is the only one that's offensive. A simple apology, ala Limbaugh, should suffice. He could say he shouldn't have gotten personal with her in a 1-1 diaglogue. That's the only bad tweet and NOT FIREABLE. A simple apology should suffice to the person.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:09 PM) Hmm, maybe he should focus more on sportswriting then. Just curious greg, if you talked to a woman like that while representing your employer, would you think that your employer would look the other way? You DO work in a similar field, no? But he didn't say it to the woman. He tweeted it. He wasn't asking for a fight. I'm sure he's probably offended people in print before. I think his defense could be that he is a comedian at times as well as writer.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 30, 2012 -> 08:09 PM) They have to treat him the same way the would treat a guy who works in the mailroom who said the same thing in the middle of the Sun Times office. Joe may have done himself in. Go figure. I hope he gets good representation and sues the Sun Times. They want tweets I'm sure. They want their columnist to be outspoken I'm sure. They want him to be a pseudo comedian at times, I'm sure. And he offends women like a bad comic might (can you say Dice Clay?) and he gets fired?