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QUOTE (Paint it Black @ May 8, 2009 -> 09:55 AM) But how does it help win you ball games? Really? That's already been answered but I'll go for it again. By responding to the tactics being used against us, it will limit the other team from consistently doing it, thus allowing our hitters to feel a little more comfortable in the bpx and there's a little less. If team A knows they can brush back team B's hitters all day while their own team has nothing to worry about, they will have a significant mental advantage at the plate. No, not really actually. That's like saying Martin Havlat stood up for his teammates last night b/c he scored the tieing goal late in the 3rd. Valuable and essential to teams? Absolutely. Does it equate to "standing up for your teammates" as the thread is about? Absolutely not. Totally different things there. Again, you can brush back the other team to send a message without engaging in bean ball wars. (Which has been said multiple times already)

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ May 6, 2009 -> 11:16 PM) WoW is the s*** and there better be other people here who play. I got a level 50 subtlety rogue named Malkmus who can out-dps 55 fury warriors. He rocks. My WoW cock is enormous. I never pegged you as a Warcrack addict. I've never touched the game b/c I know what happened to me when I used to play Diablo 2...

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ May 8, 2009 -> 01:07 AM) I'm saying one of Jack-Kate-Sawyer dies next week. Just a hunch. Jack is beginning to annoy me, but I fear his death would be bad for the show. Hopefully none of them die, actually.

He's also going to appear on some HBO brothel documentary series too, IIRC

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 8, 2009 -> 12:36 AM) 352nd all time in wins with 127. Next up at 128 includes Jason Schmidt. Active ranks before tonight: BB/9: 6th ERA+: 11th Win-Loss Pct.: 15th CG: 15th WHIP: 17th ERA: 18th IP: 20th SO: 20th Wins: 21st Starts: 24th K: 45th HR/9: 47th And he's just 30. And I don't see another White Sox ever wearing 56. He may not be an ace, but I sure as hell don't want him anywhere else but on the South Side. Tarp slides: 1st

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ May 8, 2009 -> 01:56 AM) No, this stuff is for losers. How about actually beating KC, that helps a lot more than some silly ass bean ball war that leads to suspensions/fines/and embarrassment. It's not about that. At all. It's about standing up for your teammates and letting other teams know that they can't come inside, knock your guys down or hit them free of any consequences. I, too have noticed that it seems we've been hit a lot this year. It's not about tit for tat, it's about protecting your teammates. That doesnt mean you have to throw a heater at someones head either.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 7, 2009 -> 05:29 PM) I meant he didn't look physically well...not commenting on how he played. We were talking about Alomar and AIDS/HIV. Are you insinuating Santiago may have had/has AIDS?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) I thought they were setting it up to be Jack because of all the "this is why we are meant to be here" stuff that Jack finally started saying. And by Locke getting Ben to admit he's never seen Jacob, it basically tells the audience that they have free reign to make Jacob anyone we already know and it would work.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 7, 2009 -> 12:24 PM) Have they? I didn't know that. List of wrestlers who have died before the age of 50 since 1985 Chris Von Erich - 21 Mike Von Erich - 23 Louie Spiccoli - 27 Art Barr - 28 Gino Hernandez - 29 Jay Youngblood - 30 Rick McGraw - 30 Joey Marella - 30 Ed Gatner - 31 Buzz Sawyer - 32 Crash Holly - 32 Kerry Von Erich - 33 D.J. Peterson - 33 Eddie Gilbert - 33 The Renegade - 33 Chris Candido - 33 Test - 33 Adrian Adonis - 34 Gary Albright - 34 Bobby Duncum Jr. - 34 Owen Hart - 34 Yokozuna - 34 Big Dick Dudley - 34 Brian Pillman - 35 Marianna Komlos - 35 Pitbull #2 - 36 The Wall/Malice - 36 Emory Hale - 36 Leroy Brown - 38 Mark Curtis - 38 Eddie Guerrero - 38 John Kronus - 38 Davey Boy Smith - 39 Johnny Grunge - 39 Vivian Vachon - 40 Jeep Swenson - 40 Brady Boone - 40 Terry Gordy - 40 Bertha Faye - 40 Billy Joe Travis - 40 Chris Benoit - 40 Larry Cameron - 41 Rick Rude - 41 Randy Anderson - 41 Bruiser Brody - 42 Miss Elizabeth - 42 Big Boss Man - 42 Earthquake - 42 Mike Awesome - 42 Biff Wellington - 42 Brian Adams (Crush) - 43 Ray Candy - 43 Nancy Benoit (Woman) - 43 Dino Bravo - 44 Curt Hennig - 44 Bam Bam Bigelow - 45 Jerry Blackwell - 45 Junkyard Dog - 45 Hercules - 45 Andre the Giant - 46 Big John Studd - 46 Chris Adams - 46 Mike Davis - 46 Hawk - 46 Steve Dunn - 48 Cousin Junior - 48 Dick Murdoch - 49 Jumbo Tsuruta - 49 Rocco Rock - 49 Sherri Martel - 49 Not all on the list died of steroids, but there are quite a few that had heart attacks or other issues that have been attributed to being likely results of using steroids. I havent followed wrestling since I was maybe 12, but I know Owen Hart died of an fall, but I'm guessing he's the exception in that list. I got it from this site if anyone wants to read more. http://prowrestling.about.com/od/whatsreal...tlersdeaths.htm

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 7, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) Sexual enhancer? interesting. I still think its odd that a player, nowadays, would allow ANYTHING to be injected into his body without checking with the league. Which makes Manny either not-too-bright, or its a cover-up or lie of some kind. And as DA said, ED is a common side effect of some PED's. He's also refusing the appeal process. Seems like we still don't have the whole picture. But at BEST, he was stupid, and there are multiple pieces of evidence to suggest it goes beyond that. Look at Manny's history. There's a lot to suggest that he doesnt have the most common sense in the world.

QUOTE (G&T @ May 7, 2009 -> 10:07 AM) Does this mean we all have to apologize? Nope. If that report is true, it is still Manny's fault for not knowing exactly what is going into his body, but it hardly makes his "crime" comparable to those of others. And on a side not, if that report is true, how many sexual-related jokes are there going to be surrounding Manny now? Looks like he enhanced something By the way, the new thread title/sub-title just makes you laugh.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2009 -> 09:50 AM) Those 2 told everyone what it was they were busted for and tried to fight the suspension. Manny, who will probably say what it was once they can spin it enough to make it look like it really was nothing, won't even fight it. He's accepting the suspension and $8.3 million loss. Doesn't sound too innocent to me. But then again, he's been known to want a vacation in the middle of the season before, but usually wants them paid. Yes, those two fought the suspensions but still lost. Based on precedents set by MLB, it is almost impossible to have one of these types of suspensions tossed out. Therefore, why bother to fight it? He might as well serve the suspension now and come back as soon as possible to help the Dodgers compete. Delaying the suspension period only hurts the Dodgers team. Also, this report came out what, 2 hours ago? You need to give a little time to react to this before comparing what Cameron/Romero did to what Manny is NOT doing. I'm agreeing Manny needs to release this information. However, for all we know the medication he was supplied could have been for gonorrhea or any other STD. If that were the case, he may be weighing whether or not it's worth releasing it or not. We just don;t know yet.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2009 -> 09:07 AM) So, for the couple Manny defenders in here...let's hypothetically assume Canseco is right again, and Manny's name is among the 104 from 2003. Any opinion change? Yes, absolutely. But as it stands now, as is, no.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2009 -> 09:03 AM) I'm sorry your hero has been exposed, I'm sure its tough for you, but name one person who has been suspended for 50 games that hasn't lost in the court of public opinion. There have been several who never had a positive test that have lost. Manny is cooked. Yea i'm far from Manny's biggest fan but nice try. There havent even been many who have tested positive. Two I can think of are JC Romero and Mike Cameron. Cameron didn't seem to catch any s*** and Romero actually had some supporters here in that thread that was started about him. So yea, that argument just about went out the window. I do apologize that I am not as cynical about everything as you are though.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 6, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) If they won, at all, they would survive. I think the obvious choice would be to send them back to Winnipeg... or to Quebec. They moved during the exodus of Canadian teams when the Canadian economy was so outrageously worse than the US's. Putting another 1 or 2 teams in Canada seems like a no-brainer now. Unfortunately Winnipeg probably won't ever get NHL hockey again. Just some things I've heard that don't make it sound too good for the city's prospects. As for Quebec, they won't either for several reasons. The Quebecois LOOOVVVE their junior and semi-pro hockey. That is why the QMJHL and the LNAH thrive there. As for the language, there is only one English newspaper, only a handful of English radio stations, and the people of Quebec City are not at all accommodating to those wishing to use English. The reason that is a problem is b/c it will limit the number of FA's who will sign there (Eric Lindros is a perfect example, and he was a draft pick). Expanding the NHL into Canada would have to be in Ontario, either in Hamilton, Kitchener or St. Catherine's. Halifax would be an intriguing possibility, but I worry about travel to and from the city. Either way, I agree that the NHL needs to return to it's roots where it thrives. None of this trying to get a team to KC or OKC bulls***. If you do that, it isn't a novelty, it is a bad decision. Look at Hartford, Providence, Cleveland, Seattle, Indianapolis, even Sioux Falls to place teams instead. Places that could and would support the NHL. With few exceptions, it just doesnt work well in the South.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2009 -> 08:58 AM) Cry for Manny all you want. He's busted. Sorry, he's already lost in the court of public opinion. Nice to see you speak for all of us. But i'm going to wait to hear a bit more about it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2009 -> 08:49 AM) LMAO. The thing is there are a ton of guys who have never tested positive who cheated. Most likely several names that would shock us. Manny is a fraud of the highest proportions, it shouldn't shock anyone he took shortcuts. Statements like this at this point are just laughable to me. Could Manny be lying? Absolutely. But it is an entirely different situation than an A-Rod who admitted to steroid use. All we have on Manny, is that after all this time he finally failed a test. We don't know what the drug is yet, so it is very possible it could have been in a medication that was presecribed to him. I understand the culture of baseball and what the stigma surrounding this past generation of players is, but accusatory statements like this tainting his entire career accomplishments up until this point are way out of whack, IMO. What Manny should do, is release the name of the medication he was prescribed. That way, when the drug that caused the failed test is released, people can cross check it with what Manny said he took. Wouldn't prove anything, but it could certainly help him out in the court of public opinion.

As strange as this may sound, I actually might buy into the doctor excuse. The reason is because Manny has no reason to cheat at this point. He has a $45M contract, he is almost done, he is a sure fire HoF'er, he has a ring, he is already regarded as one of the best right handed hitters of the generation...so whats the point? I can't believe Manny actually cares enough about his performance and how he's perceived to try and get an edge. Especially since up until now he has been "clean". I just feel if he was juicing, he would have been caught before, or at the very least would have stopped. Why wasnt he caught 2 years ago? Or last year? Why all of a sudden just right now? It just doesnt make sense to me, which is why I will wait to hear his official excuse in detail.

Jordan, and it isn't even close

QUOTE (shipps @ May 7, 2009 -> 06:36 AM) Now that someone pointed out too me the reason for this post its just not as funny as if it was a drunk post. Meh, i caught on immediately after reading the first sentence what this was going to be like and the reason for it and I think it's amazing.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 7, 2009 -> 06:00 AM) What's weird though, is he has been DH'ing a lot. Not often you see someone go SS to DH. Probably just they want to get him at bats but not at the expense of Escobar

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ May 6, 2009 -> 02:29 PM) Ronaldo Messi and Torres. Excellent. My top 3 as well. I might slip Kaka in there. Messi and Ronaldo are givens as 1/2 (in any order) at this point. I'd personally place Kaka ahead of Torres at this point. Torres is a great player, but he's too one dimensional for me. I actually like David Villa more than Torres. Also, people tend to forget about the Afircans, but Eto'o, Emmanuel Adebayor and Michael Essien are fantastic players.

Incredible.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 6, 2009 -> 10:05 AM) I'm inclined to agree it's the main reason that i joined Sox Talk. The majority of people here are good, friendly people, it seems like everything over their is either hostile or cynical. It's like a never-ending losing gamethread forum. You weren't here in 2007

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