Kid Gleason

So...who is this NCor guy everybody is talking about???

I haven't been the victim of green yet, so I hope not!

Drop me a line, I can get you a copy of any of them. I do actually LOVE where this thread went to, and find it a great testament as to how we can all just get along. Anytime you get that Ferrel/Walkin sketch into daily conversation is GREAT!!!

Not so sure how I was wrong. I liked his post, and Bear Republic does make a fine Stout that any beer lover needs to try.

That was a fine post!!! I'm buying you a beer man! I should send you a Bear Republic Black Stout!!! Just had it over the weekend, and if you have not had one, you need one!

Hey, I offend myself everyday. This topic will never fall to the bottom of the pile with these little posts though. What say we kill it???

Watching last night though, I got a kick out of Mike Schmidts 500th is a ton of fun to see. I don't like showboatting, but seeing a pro get that "giddy" is pretty cool.

No, which is why I said "most". And yes, "most" do.

I know all of the things I want to say, but it is so dang hard to truely make a point here on a board. The double standard comes into play with the US. Your pointing to stuff that you are proud of though, and that isn't really offensive. In Japan right now there is a new Godzilla film being made. It has gained some controversy already due to the scene with the Americans in it. I am not too sure what the scene has with it, but it is a stereotypical American with vulgar language and other things going on. Americans are offended by it. The gong is an Asian instrument, yes, but for years has been used in an offensive way. Godzilla is a cultural icon in Japan. In the US he is a cheesy silly creation. Shingo will be fine with seeing Godzilla being on the screen, but might not fully understand how mocked he is in the US. In most of the eyes of the US we see Godzilla films as those funny Japanese films with the bad FX and silly dubbing. The dubbing though is a fault of the US distributor who places the poor dubbing, and the FX are servicable in the Japanese ways of they work in the context of the film. They are accepted for what they are. And in all reality, in their full scope, and seen as they are meant to be seen, they are amazing visual accomplishments. Yes, I own every Godzilla film, and yes most are in their original language, and yes I was at the US showing of the newest one last Saturday night. To go along with the Asians in the stereotypical role, look into how many times we have Chinese playing the parts of Japanese, Japanese playing the parts of Koreans, and so on and so on. Heck man, they all look alike, so just put any of them into any role. All I was saying in the beginning is that the gong was a part of a stereotype that has been used for years. Shingo is not an idiot, I will go along with. But he and his wife might not fully understand what it might be implying. Yes, he is being accepted and loved by this city right now, and yes I am thrilled to see it. Especially since his signing was met with most of us fans questioning the move. But he has proven to be a great asset. Jackie Chan is a box office king around the world, but he still struggles with the US. He is as close as we have come to an Asian star in our country since Bruce Lee. Bith Jackie and Bruce, along with Bruce's son Brandon (who had very little in the ways of Asian traights facially), all spoke of the unbelievable racial lines drawn against Asians. As for going back to my stating how Shingo might not be familar with the past in the US. In Japan, you can go into restaurants with a Nazi theme. The band Syndrome used to wear Nazi outfits onstage, complete with Swastikas. The director of the film Men Behind The Sun did a showing in Japan. The film explores the atrocities that Japan commited during WWII. The college students sat in shock watching the film. After the film, the director broke down in tears as student after student approached him asking about the film, as none of them knew anything about the things that happened. The recent Godzilla film Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: All Monsters Attack deals with the issue of the Japanese public ignoring it's past. If Japan has chosen to ignore it's own history, how can we figure that they are all familiar with the steretypes and the ways of signifying the steretypes that have been around for years in this country. It might be O.K. with Shingo, but if it wasn't his idea (and if it was his sole idea, I retract any objections I have to it), then somebody owed it to him to NOT add that gong in there. It was a move done out of a "He's Asian, don't they need gong to signal their arrival"? Seriously, this is all blown way out of proportion, but if you can't acknowledge that there is a racial stereotype being shown here, then you need to open your eyes a bit. My buddy, as un-PC as they come, was even shocked to find out about the gong. You want a better comparison, how about we play "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" everytime we have an African American walk into the game? It is a song that was used for years as a racial steretype. A guitar solo can also go with any country that has rock music. Oh, and I am not typing this with an iron fist and getting all hot blooded. And this is pretty much were I end. We know where I stand, and I can't spell it out any more clear. Thanks, the soap box is now open.

***note to self: do not piss off users named "JimH" or "quickman"***

Wow...wow...crazy, crazy, crazy stuff!!! Not sure what to say to it all! I guess this should be a lesson to all: even hiding behind fake internet lives can bite you in the butt!!!

Hey!!! How ya doing??? No, I don't have your email. I'll drop you a line though through the PM service!

I'll probably get my ass kicked now...

Yeah, I would welcome a Yankees battle in the post. I don't think they scare the Sox at all. I just never want to see Oakland.

Wow, this is all some of the wildest stuff I have ever seen on any internet site! I am an escapee from the Sox board, but it wasn't due to NCor. I never had a run in with him, but saw many that did. I came here due to being sick to death of the Cub-trolls. THAT drove up a wall. I voiced it, somebody gave me this link, and I never posted there again. I think I figured out who Base Ball is. If I am right, it is one of the only posters here that I dreaded crossing the wrong path with, as he always posts VERY good stuff, and pulls no punches. Tough poster, fitting of the name. Hope I didn't ruin anything there. Crazy stuff man, crazy stuff indeed. Hopefully this will all play out soon and everybody can get back to their "normal" lives.

Well, I fell out of the Punk and Glam world. Not Glam as in Poison, but Glam as in the true stuff, and mostly the UK stuff. But yes, Bolan was a HUGE thing to me. Still is.

LOL!!!

No, no, it was cute. Just a little bit of a stretch.

I guess the word "gong" is the reference??? Too young? I'm 34, but Marc Bolan has influenced much about my music. My band used to do "20th Century Boy" and "Baby Bommerang". "Solid Gold Easy Action" to this day is the most perfectly written Glam tune ever, IMO. And The Slider stands as the second greatest Glam album ever, only beaten out by the perfect Back To Mystery City by the untouchable Hanoi Rocks. Come join me on my main hang-out: Glitzine

Oh man. Can I get a :dips*** that points to myself??? LOL!!! I was saying that there are many, many cases where people are talking about Shingo (not on this board alone, but in other areas) like he is the only person from another country. If the one comment had been about Maggs, I don't think anything would have been thought about the "foreign" aspect. But since Japanese players in the league are still somewhat new, there is a novelty to them that gets blown out of proportion, and quite a few seem to forget that a HUGE number of players in MLB are NOT citizens of the US. I meant to offense to people holding green cards, unless it is an American Express.

Don't quite get the reference, but T-Rex has always been a major influence in my music, so I'm fine with the quote!

I mean that while Matsui was playing in Japan, the Japanese public called him "Godzilla". Not that Godzilla started in Japan, which he did. But rather, that nickname came from the Japanese public. This has all gotten much more attention than even I think it is truely worth. If people are cool with it, then obviously the public reaction of what matters. I just think it was and is a risky thing to have in his intro. But hey, if it works for him, then more power to him.

But what were Mike and Mike saying? Did they say anything about all that was going on, or were they just yucking it up alongside Jay?

I am. I'm fine, I am not going crazy. Trust me. Just an observation, as anybody else might have about anything else. Trust me, people are getting more worked up over Carlos and his first swing than I am over this. As Johnny B. used to say (cue music) "I'm a happy boy!" We all just need to step in the s*** at one point or another, and I think it appears it was my turn.

Crap, wrote a nice reply, and it vanished. Matsui being called Godzilla is not a racist thing as it started in Japan. He even had a cameo in Godzilla x MechaGodzilla (US title, available almost everywhere is Godzilla Against MechaGodzilla). MechaG (Kiryu) flies over head and he is in the middle of coaching a little league team. I have yet to see any Irish or Scottish pitchers be given the bagpipe treatment. I guess I will hold out my opinion until somebody of Irish descent gets onto the mound. Maybe someday the Irish and Scottish can break that barrier and join the league. I am not a politically correct freak, but I hate a double standard. There is a double standard. The gong as a instrument and such is NOT racist. But in a country where a gong has always been used to introduce and Asian character in movies and radio, and now they are using it to introduce Shingo, it comes across as no different than Long Duck Dongs gong strike in Sixteen Candles. It is something that has always been used, and it was always used in a stereotypical fashion. No, Shingo will not mind it being used, due to his being Japanese and it being an instrument from his country. But by his not speaking the language, I am banking on it he is not overly familiar with American culture and past. Consider the fact that in Japan, their own past is not taught to a strong degree, what makes you think he would understand what the gong has been used for in American culture when showing an audience an Asian? Just because he doesn't mind it, doesn't mean in 5 years after being in the country and seeing a bunch of old movies (or even recent ones), that something won't trigger in his mind and make him realize that the use of his countries instrument just might not be a nice thing. Heck, why should Native Americans (kind of a PI term, but the author Owl Goingback told me in an interview that he was cool with that term, and so are many others) mind somebody pounding a drum and smoking a piece pipe when introducing them? It's their heritage we are using!