Baseball Gal

I keep lying to myself and telling myself that this is the thing that's going to get me to stop paying attention but I'm the biggest sucker on earth, as I try to do mental gymnastics to convince myself that Getz is not just a continuation of the previous FO.

I guess saying if I was an opposing team I wouldn't trade anything but a bag of balls was hyperbole, but I agree with Balta about Cease's value.

Seidler was one of the better owners in baseball.

Scott Boras/Jerry

You know what, you're right about this one. Castillo is a really good comp for Cease because he was as inconsistent as Cease was but with premium stuff. What was the deal for him I forget? I think Castillo had a little more control than Cease does but I could be wrong. The major difference between Castillo and Cease is that I think Castillo had more good seasons than Cease did.

Think about what the Cubs got for Yu Darvish. That's about the best you could do.

Cease has had one good year and is otherwise basically Javy Vazquez. How did you feel about Vazquez?

Did you read the Orioles board linked? They don't even want to trade Kjerstad straight up for Cease. If I were not a fan of the Sox I wouldn't be interested in acquiring him for anything more than a bag of baseballs.

Be prepared to be disappointed in the return.

They're a downgrade from GarPax imo.

I'm with Balta. Eloy is basically DH Anderson.

Scott Boras is right a lot more than he's wrong when he talks about baseball economics. The fact of the matter is that all 30 teams could afford whatever FA they want, they just choose not to. If the owners want anyone else to believe otherwise, then open up the books to the players. Until then I believe it's just 20 owners being cheap and laughing to the bank.

Different sport, but look at the Edmonton Oilers. They have the best player since Wayne Gretzky and another top 5 player in the league and can't win s%*#.

Cubs were more of a clownshow until they got new ownership. We need to hope for the same and hopefully the Sox remain in Chicago. I really think we underestimate the damage that Jerry has done to the Sox over the last decade. The Sox leaving Chicago under new ownership is a real threat.

Wouldn't surprise me if Len is out after his contract is up. He wanted to do playoff games and there will be none of those on the south side for a long time. Literally, this is the plot of Major League going on. Jerry is pissing off the fans to the point of complete apathy and I really don't think a lot of us care anymore. It really seems like he wants to finish what he started in the late 80s.

We're talking about Robert

I think something like the Sale deal is the framework. 1 top 5 prospect, one top 40 prospect, and either another top 100 or two young players with potential to grow into top 100 types. Someone offers that this offseason and I'd probably pull the trigger because that's probably the max another team is willing to pay.

This is the unfortunate truth. It might be 2 years before someone is willing to pay what it takes for Robert. I'm pretty sure he's untradeable this offseason. Similar to Sale, you might be able to get an adequate return in winter 2024-25 with 3 years left.

I don't understand after one bounceback year after being absolute garbage for 3 years straight.

You think Bellinger will get $200M? I'd be shocked. I have him around $125. It's not something I'd be comfortable with either.

He's not guaranteed to be fixed. Bellinger was really bad for like 2-3 seasons before last year. There's a lot of volatility there and he might get a 9 figure deal but I wouldn't offer him that. Just way too much risk.

I pay attention mildly to the Sox these days for social reasons more than me caring. I enjoy this board and the banter, and a lot of my friends are Sox fans.

Bears are rapidly approaching this territory.