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I heard this on sports radio last week — the Cubs definitely don’t like deferred money after the Lester and Heyward signings, so that makes sense. I still wouldn’t be all that surprised if the Cubs look wise for not upping their offer to Bregman with Shaw killing the ball by later this season. We would all be a lot more excited about Colson this season if he hit like Shaw did in the minors.

Sure, and that’s reasonable. But while we are talking about Colson Montgomery playing this year in the majors, he’s actually a few months younger than Shaw and Shaw has totally out produced Colson with the bat to the tune of a .906 lifetime OPS in the minors. None of us would be looking to sign Bregman if the Sox were in the very same position with a prospect like Shaw basically major league ready.

I called Berti a mediocre backup vet 3B and compared him to Madrigal. I see your point. The Cubs definitely aren’t as good with Tucker and Shaw/Turner rather than Tucker and Bregman. But I think if they had signed Bregman for 3/$120 and would have already been paying him $40 million a season, they would have zero shot at resigning Tucker next offseason. It will still be difficult but I think they actually have a chance to re-sign him. With Bregman’s additional salary, not a chance.

Now that I read this article, it comes across a bit like Getz is making excuses for the Sox currently low payroll by throwing Hahn under the bus by inferring that his early extensions were questionable. I realize the Sox currently low payroll is by design but let’s not act like Getz had absolutely nothing to do with the development of Moncada, Eloy, and Robert. Perhaps he should have known that those guys wouldn’t be the best players to stay motivated after receiving early contract extensions and been in Hahn’s ear about it?

They also have Jon Berti as additional mediocre veteran depth at 3B. Not that impressive but with Turner, they do have some fallback options. Better than Madrigal at least. Regardless, Shaw is rated #19 in MLB’s top 100 and #13 recently by FanGraphs. At some point, it doesn’t make sense to give a free agent 3B $40 million a year when you have a guy like that. Would you hold the Sox to these same expectations when and if they are good again? Because they wouldn’t sign Bregman either if they were in the same situation as the Cubs with Shaw waiting in the wings.

When your top prospect is a 3B, it also doesn’t make much sense to give Bregman 3-years and $120 million dollars. They just added veteran coverage and a good bench bat in case Matt Shaw falters as a rookie.

Texas steaks and baked potatoes couldn’t have been much better, haha.

Point taken. I guess I was thinking about players that he was directly responsible for drafting since he was promoted to GM.

He was also pitching in the PCL so that probably didn’t help his numbers any, right? Or is that not as much of a thing these days? He’s right around the age of Thorpe, Cannon, and Burke. This may be my favorite pickup of the offseason. Can’t beat basically free. He should get major league starts this season.

But your point remains. Getz still needs to develop a prospect that is actually worthy of an early extension. Time will tell.

I can’t read the full article but it seems like a direct shot at Hahn’s old strategy.

I’m not painting it in any way. I just posted the facts.

Flexen wasn’t great last season but he was better than he was in 2023. Strange that he would have to take less money this offseason than last offseason. Or perhaps the Cubs gave him what he is worth and Getz just overpaid the guy last offseason.

Flexen got $1.75 million from Getz last offseason and signs a non-guaranteed minor league deal this offseason.

It’s funny that you had no problem questioning The Athletic’s Dan Hayes regarding his story about trade talks between the Twins and White Sox and Luke Keaschall. Do you pick and choose which journalists you believe and which ones you don’t based on if you like their stories or not?

Is a higher number good?

So this was the draft pick they got back in the Gregory Santos trade? Yikes… Zach DeLoach — DFA and no other team wanted him so the Sox retained him. Prelander Berroa — 6.41 ERA and 1.83 WHIP in Charlotte last season. Looked good with Sox but had a near 1.50 WHIP because he walks too many batters. 69th pick in the 2024 draft — Blake Larson — needs TJ surgery

Numerous comments that he was light on experience for the role. And then he was light on experience yet again when JR promoted him to GM.

Is it even pessimism though? It’s easier to justify a ranking for a load of guys that have at least tasted the minors and had success already. If B. Montgomery has some success this year, he could probably jump like 50 spots on their next list or something ridiculous like that.

Horrible numbers but he supposedly has a 5 pitch mix. Still only 25. Definitely worth a shot.

At this point, obviously you play the guy (Fletcher) to see if he can do something. He’s 27 years old and you already traded Mena for him. It’s now or never so you may as well play him. Why the hell would a team that will likely lose 100 games sign a starting platoon RF of old mediocre players instead, that likely won’t be flipped for anything of value? Fletcher has 241 plate appearances with the Sox. He’s already a sunk cost and the Sox still haven’t given him enough playing time. Getz is clueless and moves like this make him look way in over his head. What are we doing here giving playing time to Tauchman and Slater?

Better late than never, I guess. But since this is all new to the Sox, they are still behind other teams as a result.