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QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) There was a tiume recently that most everyone thought Adam Eaton was the greatest trade of all time ( forgive the slight exaggeration) and Ramirez is ap[lus defender and the Shaek would take us over the top and on and on. If we are done bashing everyone let's get back to playing baseball. This team can still compete exactly, but with out the team performing, the team doesn't have the players to rearrange the starting lineup. so the idea of who to bat #1, and #2 , if the other players are hitting just as bad or worst.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) There's a hockey board called HFBoards. Similar to this site but for all teams. A lot of people think Sharp to Florida for Trochek and a 2nd is the most logical fit. yeah there isn't a good rumor board for hockey and the going on. i remembered when most of came over, i asked Jason if he would create another soxtalk for the bulls and blackhawks. well, that was my idea and i take full blame, esp in it failing.... i really freel like shiite for my opinions, but i will always have a special opinions on the mods and admin b/c of that. hf future is ok, but i really don't believe in anything that comes from that site. btw i am talking about their forum.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Why do people like Dave Martinez so much? What has he ever done except stand next to Joe Maddon during games ? Seriously, this guy has been interviewed countless times and never landed a job. I remember when the pitchforks were out for Greg Walker, and the guy here who convinced a few posters that Walker had a "lift and pull" philosophy, wanted the Sox to hire Rudy Jaramillo's "assistant". If he knew what he was talking about, Rudy Jaramillo was the hitting coach with a "lift and pull" philosophy. Just because a guy coaches under Maddon, doesn't mean he's just like Maddon. And really, the Rays sucked last year and finished under .500. Maddon flees, they are devastated by injury, and are in first place. Maybe his genius is overstated. for me, it is on who is available for the manager's job, he is on the top 2 for my opinions. he was in the final running of at least 2 managers if i remember correctly. also he was assistant to other managers as well. i still like him or someone else, who i mention already.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 02:39 PM) Sharp is going to be dealt soon. Florida? Jackets? Islanders? Sharpie, the writing is in the sky. this yr salary maneuvering will need to be very creative and on the dime. i wish he would have retired as a blackhawks but oh well, the team needs to go forward. now come the rtn, sharp and his 5.0 + mil contract, for 2 yrs more. i wonder what the hawks would accept?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) If you're ok with a .550 OPS from your number 3 hitter then you're ok with this version of Anderson hitting there. hmmmm no and i think that is why we are discussing, how to best see anderson, hitting in what number in the order. it not like we are expecting him tomorrow or next season. remember fans has always envision prospect with rose colored glasses, thinking that they will be all-stars right off. not really thinking that there will be a learning curve.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:21 PM) I mean, did Savard really DESERVE to be fired. Not talking about Ventura level incompetence there. and you got a point, but the point was, Q was avail and has a history of coaching exp. a decision was made, that was painful for all of savard fans, which i was one. but savard did not have that coaching exp and the hawks were trying to groom him, just like RV.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) Brian Campbell, Cristobal Huet, and the RFA offer sheet blunder. with ref to those players you mention. campbell was a first round pick who was picked #3. at the time many thought he would develop to be a better player. Huet, the team needed goalies and at the time needed players at key position. the rfa, the team didn't have any choice but to offer the offer sheet. yeah everything happened at one time, but decisions had to be made for the sake of the team, esp for the future. that is why i keeping stating on the having the cost and contract spread out. but with this team they were able to win the first stanley cup. a special win. the last time was in the 1960's. the GM does not have the ability to have hindsight to make better judgement. blackhawks roster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%93...ackhawks_season

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 02:52 PM) To me this is like saying "and when Hector Noesi finds his stuff our 2017 rotation will look real potent." The problem is that having Anderson become a big league ball player is a huge jump! No one is asking where Hawkins would hit in a lineup because he hasn't yet looked like he will do damage in the big leagues. Saying Anderson as a #6 hitter makes it more potent is to me like complimenting Beckham and Gillaspie on how potent they're making our lineup while hitting 6th. They're not making it potent, they're pretty rotten! Also "I can see the 345 hitting good" would require a huge upgrade from this year too/. and with that logic and caution, that is a definite thing to take into consideration. but that is why i was asking that question in the first place and my uncertainty of where, when he makes the majors. it not like i have him pencil into the #3 slot. but this is the only way to deal with this season.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 02:53 PM) I was nervous and excited this year because it from the major league club on down this was the first year where we could see whether Hahn's new tenure, and our "re-focus" on drafting and scouting was paying off. Well our farm is having a truly brutal year, our major league club a worse one, and every franchise in our division is getting better. This is the time for a Bears level re-gutting, and it is so frustrating that we are going to continue to trim around the margins. i too was all for this season, esp with what Hahn did. however i had a gut feeling that the sox didn't finished. but in spring training, when this club lost to the sCrubs, i started to have a bad feeling. i remember posting it as such. but on paper, i just lost. i had faith in this team, but i am lost for what happen. every player is not performing as what was expected. re the farm, i only trusted anderson and the pitching. for me,, this is nothing but a hipcup on the pitching.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) Sox probably already have a deal with Fulmer in place, they are just respecting Vandy's CWS run and not announcing it until after they are finished. What is the rush? He's not going to throw that many innings anyways. again another excellent point. very logical.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) Right now he looks like he'd fit well within the 6-9 slots in the 2015 White Sox batting order. In other words, not belonging on a major league ball club. Beyond that I literally can't project because he has to get better before it's even worth talking about and how he gets better, if at all, is key to the ability to answer that question. real nice. i saw it as a #7, i just wasn't sure of a #6 slot. his offensive tools are enticing. but it is K's that makes me wonder about #6. on a side note, i can see the sox #3,4,5 hitting good, and #6 with anderson hitting, makes it more potent.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Should i bet the house on it?

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) Plus the #9 pick if Fulmer says NO to Sox below-slot offer. did you do the math??? i am just wondering if they, the sox fo is trying to sign and wait for the college ws to be finished. i think the sox fans will know more how it goes then.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Seriously people need to stop mentioning Anderson as though he's going to be a saviour for this ballclub. From his AA performance any other team would be skeptical about him ever being an MLB regular, let alone "ready in 2 years". Compared to last year, his batting average is down but still ok and around .300, but he's hitting extra base hits at only 60% of the rate of last year so his slugging has plummeted, he has a .323 OBP and a whopping .715 OPS, he's on pace to strike out over 100 times while walking 20 or so times this year, and he's made a bunch of errors at short. "I've got a guy at AA with a .715 OPS" isn't a message that sells me on him even being an MLB regular, let alone worth having his name in a list of guys you'd consider "ready to help this club in 2 years". He still has talent, he has speed, he still is piling up the hits, but any reasonable organization would see his performance this year and think "ok, let's be patient and take our time, he has a lot to learn even at these levels". A reasonable organization would see that performance and slide him back to a mid 2017 arrival at the earliest barring a huge improvement, and then that reasonable organization would expect there's a good chance he'll need to struggle for a year or two at the big league level if he ever can take hold of a starting position. That org would also realize there's a good chance he completely busts and can't handle a position or the strikeouts pile up even more as he faces better pitching and becomes just another guy who drifts around after getting a short shot and come up with other plans. If he does better than that, great, but stop penciling him in as even a future big league regular until we see him earn it. you are making an excellent point. here is a question, making the majors, for me, this is a foregone conclusion. defensively it will be taken care off as is. but offensively, how or where in the order do you see him? obviously, due to his K's, i don't see him as a leadoff or a #2. not enuf power for #3,4,5. that is me. your thoughts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:00 AM) Javier Baez faced her and struck out. Looking. real nice

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Scotty Bowman has 14 Stanley cup rings. Why wouldn't you want him to help? that is not the point.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 12:19 PM) I understand your point about Tallon, the majority of the top talent was acquired under his watch. I think that is easily forgotten given how everything else played out with the old man. That being said, you are not giving Bowman enough credit for keeping those guys under the salary cap, while adding enough talent and depth around them to win it all. This team could throw any of its 4 lines out there at any time, how many other teams could do that? Look at the Penguins, they have almost just as much top talent as the Hawks, why can't they even make the conference finals? It's not as easy as it looks. Plus, who cares if Daddy Bowman is helping? He's not going anywhere, every GM needs advisors anyway. with ref to stan and the salary cap i will explain later he was, at the time employed, to the best of my recollection, to another team. it was the like good ole boy connections. tallon did nothing to have been gotten rid off. however this past season, stan show his smarts in addressing that need in trading for additional talent. now this off season with the state of fa's on the team, now he will be able to put indelible mark on the history of this team, at least for me.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) I remember after 2010 how fans who were new to the Blackhawks were up in arms when they git rid of Dustin Byfuglien. It's just the nature of the NHL and salary cap. They got their core and build around it. excellent point

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 01:38 AM) Come on now, look at the roster turnover from 2010 - 2013 - 2015. There was a tremendous amount of retooling i understand your point, but i will come back to this weekend

QUOTE (MnSoxFan @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:55 PM) Cripes. She has to be at least 70!!! http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=m...tching/2015/ALL ahhh man that is great. Joan...... btw, what parents would call their son Joan. my bad, i thought you were making crack on the sCrubs player.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 12:47 AM) Just 2. It probably is their last tour, unless they do Europe next year. Since my brother lives there and owes me a business class ticket, if they do play there we may follow them around for a week or so. first i will give you a lot of credit in thinking and prob doing it. second, i wish i could go to concerts. while i would love the muz and show, i just do not like people.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:47 PM) Agreed, he was dominant on FO, but someone on the open market will give him 4-5 mil a year and the Hawks simply can't afford that. I think Richards has a better chance to stay. this offseason, at least for me and my opinion on bowman, will tell how good or bad of a GM he is. how creative he can get, but the #1, is to see how he will address the priorities of the team. if done right, i really can see the hawks winning 2 or 3 more back to back. the big point is, if done right. no one will know if he is doing it right. only when game time starts. as you said in another post, the core is there. build around it. put his name on this team now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 10:20 PM) Man I wish we could keep Vermette, his face off ability is so valuable. i would too, but for me, the length of the contract and how much for that contract.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) I too am not a fan of the GM that has retooled this team numerous times in the modern cap era to help achieve 3 stanley cup victories. i will respect what you are saying, i just didn't think that was that much that needed to be retooled. however i will give bowman his dues. this yr he did a great job. signing richard making trades at the end, who cares if they were needed or not, it showed that he went out and got the team the players. ala mike keenan going out and getting gilmore and a dman.

Did you say you are not a fan of Bowman? yes Also did you compare Bickell and Saad? no