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QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) But those guys aren't going to get you Chris Sale. As a fan, would you be excited if the Sox got a bunch of minor leaguers back for him? I wouldn't and neither would Rick Hahn. You need one or more guys who are excelling in MLB because that's how much Sale's contract and track record are worth. and you know this how???

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:50 PM) I'm not obsessed with that idea, man. My point was that Conor Gillaspie blows and I stand by that. but your still ranting on, and on and on and on. about it,.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) Okay I get what you mean. Realistically, if they could get the kind of haul that he's "worth", I'm with you. That's just not going to happen. This is why I disagree with you on the Quintana thing too. He's a very underrated pitcher and I just don't think they'd acquire what he's worth. Maybe I'm wrong though. nice thinking though lets use the blackhawks. they gave draft picks for who they thought they need for the cup. i will not debate whether it help or not. but the hawks won the cup. and still has a full system of prospects.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) After the 2015 f*** up...if I were the GM no I wouldn't because of all the reasons you guys just gave but it would be the correct move for the franchise. And that's a big problem too. esp if that team is close to the ws and is need of a #1 rotation type pitcher, hell yeah,. there is no guarantee that the team will make this run again. in addition, la systems is deep. a good investment,.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:36 PM) Or you never get to the World Series with your new star pitcher, and you gave away all your young guys for him. Lots of ways the trade would be risky for all parties and that's why it won't happen, certainly not within the next few years. think about it, the team they have has a chance to get there, i am talking about players that is or are in the minor system. they will not affect the parent club in making the ws. plus i am talking about a young pitcher, i am not talking about a pitcher who is 32+yrs old.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) Haven't read past this post, but the bolded is all that really needs to be said. I've said before, a fair trade involving Sale is the type of thing that can get a GM fired later, and that's why this discussion is dumb every time it occurs. and adding a star pitcher to make the ws is also a way to get a raise.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 05:11 PM) I don't have any problem with what Hahn said. Worse mistake we can make is act in a panic mode. We have good players with proven track records who just haven't met expectations. Doesn't mean they won't. Hate to be in a rebuilding mode every year because we aren't undefeated again a voice of reason. very nice

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 10:46 AM) Or we just watch basketball and don't throw out pointless predictions with out knowing what we're talking about. that was a little harsh..... everyone make these post.... it all in fun.

i know i am weird, esp in my way of thinking of baseball players and prospects. i would do the deal for Sale to lets say to LA for these Corey Seagar Julio Urias Grant Holmes Austin Barnes Cody Bellinger sign Johnny Cueto or Price fa sp. i know the sox will loose 2nd round. then trade Shark for this kind of prospect and 3b and if able Melky or Adam Laroche. the sox can make the playoff next yr.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) We hear how the White Sox are so behind in the times, but yelling and screaming and embarrassing guys as a way to get them to perform better seems to be as archaic as anything. I know we with our pitchforks would love that, but in real life is there anyone here that really wouldn't mind their boss throwing them under a bus, ranting and raving and telling everyone who would listen how badly they screwed up? Does anyone here really think that would make them a better employee? you have an excellent point, but there has to be some half way point between the 2 ways to make a point. doing this, lets keep it in the clubhouse has it valid point, but sometimes a show of emotions has to come forth. a couple weeks ago, RV has a problem with conors and replace him and for 2 games afterward . what other way to make a point to the players.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/611544525027311617 https://twitter.com/jeffmooreBP/status/611544275281690624 has he wrote anything on AJ Puk

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 02:03 PM) Coop wasn't combative this time, but he wasn't taking any blame either. All on the players; nothing on the coaching staff. Not exactly the same as Hahn's, "We're all in this together". We'll see how this organization looks in 5 months. Hopefully different. if he is throwing the players under the bus, then he should mention names. really stir the pot.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) People really have no basis for the argument that his K rate is going to skyrocket when he comes to the majors. In the short sample size of his major league career already, he has maintained roughly the same K rate as his minor league career. but at the same time, no one should expect that he will have a better offensive stats in the majors, if he can't do it in the minors against lesser talent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) He capitalized the P in password123 this time.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) The only reason they didn't is they wanted him gone. The bridges were burned. great point..... i agree.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) No I was thinking more along the lines of giving Erik Johnson a shot and giving Junior Guerra more innings. I don't really want to see Davidson strike out 50% of the time. that is funny, someone on soxtalk is obsessed with that idea,.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:45 PM) I had a big problem with his quitting on the team during the season, and still do. I do not want him back as a manager for sure. i second, and third that point. what ozzie did was chicken shiite. the sox could have easily filed tampering charges and i would if i was owner.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) Haber, Bell, and Steverson all coming from outside of the organization. under Hahn's tenure???

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) Really? You want to see guys who hit worse than Carlos Sanchez? well that is one way to ensure the #1 pick.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 02:01 PM) It would be a pretty easy argument to say that Q had more talent than Phil. you may have a point. but for this discussion. i disagree. hawks roster is what 21, with 2 goalies. bulls roster is what and of that how many can play 20-30+ mins. it takes less players in the nba to make a difference on a team than it will in hockey.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 01:57 PM) I could be wrong, but I seem to recall that you can't do that anymore under the new CBA. wow, i didn't know that. got to see how that unfolds. many thanks

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) I believe Florida was paying half his salary too. RIP CapGeek and the site's owner, that was the best resource. yeah... i know. the other part of that group made another site like capgeek and has a nice write up on him. i can't remember the name something like fanguide or something.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) Yeah, which is exactly why it doesn't make sense to trade Sale. To get equal value, teams are going to have give up a package that doesn't make sense for them. If the Astros wanted them, then they'd have to give us a big portion of their future as well. for starters, i am gong to use Hou for this example. hou system is deep and it just got deeper this past draft. their major league team is young. give up 3 top players and some other fillers, for a young cost control pitcher and the way that team is set up, they may repeat on making it to the playoff. they can do it. if not, who cares.

i will keep on saying this, there has to be a reason why the players are not responding enuf to win. pitchers can not forget to pitched, esp the ACES, the hitter can not forget how to hit, the defense well ..... they were never that good anyway.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 07:43 AM) You guys that despise Danks slay me. He's not that bad a pitcher. 7 innings, 3 er and 5 k's, on a normal team, this can be enuf to win.