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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 11:20 PM) They aren't in a win now mode. They are in a we don't want totally suck now mode. Alexis window is 2015 and 2016. Sox best window not starting this year. He's the only trading chit they have that won't interfere with the real window. Thus trade him for the best group of Young players they can. i disagree, the sox will try to win, all that has been discuss on why, i will not rehash. suffice it to say, there are 2 scenario that has been talked about. 1 with Alexei on the team and 1 without. either one is how can the sox compete. the best scenario is the 1 without b/c he will help get the missing pieces to fill the holes. holes that could only be filled thru a trade. a drafted player will take several yrs of development and is a gamble. the sox wants to take advantage of Jose A, Sale, Adam, Eaton, prime yrs as a player.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:59 PM) In other words, Cuban Ballplayers can be divided into 2 groups: Before Abreu and After Abreu. And on the 3rd day, Jose will rise from the locker room and homer 4 times.... oh man you have been on a roll. this is absolute funny.

Wrigley bleachers might not be ready for 2015 opener . may answer is, "what a freaking crying shame"

so how were the new thanksgiving releases???

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) Why do people still want Alexei traded after we signed LaRoche, which is a clear "win now" move? How do plan to contend by creating a hole at SS? I'm curious how people could think that would work. even when Robin mention that Alexei is going no where, there was still talk. the only way the sox deals if the package is overwhelming. a trade can help in seveal ways, if the rtn is done right. can the sox deal with Semien at SS and the other prospect platooning, if 2 or 3 major holes were filled with top notch prospects. those are the questions that will be answered, if there was a trade. personally i do not want to trade to go thru.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 08:19 PM) Secondary sections of concrete align side by side to become a path. ahhh Grasshopper, your indepth wisdom truly astound me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 08:01 PM) Boston is in a spot where they need to move an outfielder out of the way and the White Sox are in a spot where if they move a starting pitcher they'll have to find another starting pitcher. Danks was a more valuable player than Victorino last year and Danks is now >2 years removed from injury giving hope that he'll get a little stronger next year. For all these reasons, Boston would be eating probably most of that 2nd years salary, but they'd also fill in the back end of their rotation for those 2 years. nice deductive reasoning with this. Danks is among my favorites players, so i prefer him not to move. as you mention, if the sox does trade him, there is that hole. the sox will need to venture in the free agent pool if the sox, of White can get him for lets say a Beck i may be willing. when this swap was mention, with an idea that it was a great way to rid of Danks salary and getting a hitter who may rebound.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 05:57 PM) I think out of the guys you mentioned, only Arruebarrena is capable of playing short and reports don't like his bat. By Nick Gordon you mean Dee Gordon and he is the second baseman and Guerrero sounds like he can't handle second or short and likely to end up in the outfield. then it all comes back to Alexei.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) They can either write him a check for the second year or do direct deposit. It all depends on how they normally do payroll. excellent.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 04:56 PM) As fun as it can be to dream up trade scenarios, it's true that our "Abreu-Sale" contention window effectively closes by trading Sale. Even if you get something absolutely ridiculous like Pedroia + 3 to 5 top prospects, you are short an elite pitcher and all of a sudden scrambling to sign Scherzer or Lester.. neither of which I estimate we would win the bidding for. Our offense would be great, but our pitching would take a major blow. Count me in what I see as the majority who wants to try and win a championship with Sale and Abreu. The Sox feel the same way. Sale could be as important to us as Bumgarner was to the Giants, should the Sox make it to the World Series. Keep adding to this team and make some more smart trades, instead of trading Sale, and we'll be better for it. another excellent post. i am going to enjoy reading more of your stuff in the future. good job.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) No one else wanted him, or he wouldn't be at Charlotte. harsh ... but true.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) The Sox base has much further it can shrink. Look at the 70's and 80's. excellent point, people also have to remember, we the fans are a demanding group of fans.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) Last Thanksgiving was with my wife's family in Southern California. Ran a turkey trot in 60 degree weather. With my mom's family in Des Moines today, supposed to run a turkey trot in two hours. Current temperature, six f***ing degrees. no freaking way, that is one thing that i will not miss, the cold.

if the owners of the Miami Marlins are considering a move, where would a good place be??? I am thinking b/c of the economic growth of North Dakota, would that be a good state / city to look at. redo the alignments and have them move into the Central, either AL or NL.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:16 AM) I think that if he's invited to spring training and performs very well and worthy of a spot in the bull pen then you have to give it to him. I think that there is some potential there in Belisario, he could be a good weapon to have in the pen. If he starts the season in AAA, then he could work on some things and build up some confidence like 787 said. I think Belisario could be a good 7th inning guy, if all things work out. or like mop up games.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 10:26 AM) I am not a fan of that trade per as, but I think that the Sox should look into trading Danks at the deadline, I think that Danks is gonna have a strong year in 2015, and he could be valuable to some teams (Yankees come to mind) at the deadline. the idea of trading Danks has been tried last yr. this yr, i honestly think he will be with the sox. to re-establish his value. however in this scenario, it just make perfect sense. the only problem i see, if there was a discussion, how will Bos deal with that 2nd yr of Danks contract?

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 04:03 AM) I def think he got tired. It happens to a lot of guys. Conor is a nice option at 3B against RHP and he's cheap so unless he goes out in a trade that brings back more than a 2 WAR short stop or 3B that's also cheap doesn't make any sense to move him and or not play him. 3B is like 6th or 7th on the list of needs imo. I'd rank pen, starting, lf, 2b, and c ahead. Conor needs a platoon partner that man is Semian. a good and rational post. good facts.

QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 03:49 AM) Ender Inciarte is a fantastic, relatively cheap, option for the Sox in as a corner OF. can spell for Eaton or even back for any of the outfielder if case of injury.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 06:19 AM) Ultimately Stewart, but it's more (with LaRussa) like the Epstein/Hoyer situation I have a feeling than the KW/Hahn model...or Friedman in LA with Colletti. thanks that explain a lot.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 03:41 AM) It's not like that star player is selling many tickets anyway. like Heads 22 said, the biggest thing the sox needs to do, is to field a competitive team. so the season tickets will be sold, so regular season tickets will be sold, so advertising can be sold, get the idea. does anyone think that the sox is doing this just for us, the fans?? yeah we the fans are the background, but look at the big picture.

i hope everybody has a Blessed and Safe turkey day. may you all get belly ache for eating too much,

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 03:10 AM) Dear Phil Rogers: Please write a Danks for Victorino trade rumor article. You can also include Curtis Granderson and Chris Young if you like. classic stuff there. but would it be for Levine?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 03:04 AM) 1) Victorino's 2013 season, where he was a key cog in Red Sox World Series victory 2) Veteran leader with tons of playoff experience...well respected like LaRoche 3) Checks all the Rowand/Erstad/Eaton qualities of gritty, heady and "baseball rat/dirtbag"...the OF version of Daryl from The Walking Dead 4) Would have to prove his health in one last drive for a final contract...motivated/incentivized 5) Would improve the defense (if healthy) 6) One way to get Danks' deal off the payroll, especially for 2016...payroll flexibility going forward like several posters said, a win / win trade.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 03:02 AM) It was one of Hahn's first trades. thanks everyone for all the info. that was a great trade.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 27, 2014 -> 02:59 AM) The other thing to keep in mind is that the Dodgers have Guerrero, Arrebuena and especially Nick Gordon. Two of those three guys could definitely play SS. Or they have options like S.Castro, Lowrie, Stephew Drew and Asdrubal Cabrera. Maybe Marco Scutaro. As someone mentioned, they also could target Eduardo Escobar, since the Twins want Santana at SS instead of CF eventually. Tulowitzki's out there, possibly. if the Dodgers truly believe them to be options, then why their effort in looking at Alexei.