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QUOTE (raBBit @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) Brandon Finnegan is missing his start again this week. That's his second injury over the last several weeks. He's one of my favorite prospects in this draft. Even though he is short and so many scouts have him pegged for the bullpen I think he'll be a pleasant surprise for whoever ends up getting him. The arm is legit despite his size. If he was 6' 2" instead of 5' 11" he'd be a surefire top ten pick. I know everyone expects us to pick a position player with our second pick, but if he's a guy who free falls I hope he doesn't get past the Sox. my pick would be arms, arms and then a positional player if he is ranked. we really need a catcher.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 11:56 AM) It exists, but only gets sporadic usage, mostly by me, and not consistently, nor with any plan of attack. I can get enuf of info on the sox future . the site is great. good job futuresox staff. your hard work is appreciated.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 1, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) I included Garcia because I thought you were talking about the next few years. thanks !

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:57 PM) The special will include every half-inning in which Abreu homered. I am really happy as the next person ...... but overkill ?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 04:05 PM) The biggest number I saw was 6/100, and even that was shrouded in mystery. Have you got a link? I have been curious what our offer was ever since he signed. I thought I read somewhere it was the 3 or 4 best offer ..... but what the hell I know.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) A. Eaton, Garcia, Viciedo, De Aza, Danks B. Quintana, then agreed C. Somewhat agreed- we do have some good talent in Micah Johnson, Tim Anderson, Matt Davidson, Chris Beck, etc. with ref to a. are we talking this yr or next ? c. I am a fan of may and engel as well great speed with Johnson. also if Michalczewski the 3b prospect, can hit and 3b is manned .... why not him in the outfield mix as well?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) I really don't believe it was a token offer. I honestly believe the Sox had the 2nd best contract out to Tanaka in the form of a 6/$120 deal with an opt out after 4 years, but the Yankees offered an additional year. Nothing the Sox could do in that situation. then I stand corrected... and happily so.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:44 PM) I don't understand the idea of waiting around for middling pitching prospects to develop and wasting Chris Sale. b/c of over paying ..... we have hole (s) that need to be fix. a. outfield b. pitching a #2 and #4/5 c. we don't have a large amount of prospects to fix everything.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:30 PM) They did acquire Contreras and Frederico in trades. They typically believe in acquiring starters via trades (if they are going to go outside of the org) vs. playing the free agent game or at least have in the past. They did try to make a mega splash with Tanaka though this year. Hey Chisoxfn ..... how is it hanging ????? Been well ? in Tanaka , the offer for him, I believe was nothing but a token one. proof is when he WENT over for Jose

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:37 PM) No one is making moves on May 1. They really aren't even going to make moves on June 1, or maybe not even July 1. Any expectations of externals moves being made is just silly. Any improvement is coming from the system, or possibly someone else's castoffs. and I can deal with that when the time comes. I still like our minor league and prospect we have. are they going to perform now, nah but lets not over react.

Oh man ..... do I love this thread ..... time has change, when people could talk about a subject without getting hung or take to the wood shed, and most importantly, by many who are smart. keep up the good work everyone.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:10 PM) I can't argue with this logic. Byers or Sellers, are they not the same

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:28 PM) I got you now. Yes, our Latin American operations were destroyed because of this. I don't think we had any real boots on the ground down there until the last few years. I wonder if part of it was not knowing if they could trust people down there, wondering if they were part of Wilder's scheme. Really the last two years is when we have started putting money out down there again. exactly ...... but with signing them we have a vacuum state and its now. I have said this, its too early to do anything of worth. let the season play out and see. we are excited b/c of Jose being a world beater.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) For specific guy, absolutely. Some take that as if he is willing to spend money on Tanaka, he has to have a spare $100 million in his pocket to spend now, having no idea if that is true or not. The Tanaka stuff could mean a lot of things. Honestly I think in that case they viewed Tanaka as a money generator that pretty much any other player wouldn't be. He would single handedly open a revenue stream back to Japan, and in this country, which no other player on the market really could have. I think they also viewed the guy as a game changer, much in the line of Abreu's batting ability, and didn't see that in the other pitchers on the market. what was VA comment on JR midnight call to KW..... JR will not spend money just to spend and he will listen to is top baseball people with a set guideline to answer.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:18 PM) No, I wouldn't. I think it goes back to Jerry honoring his gentleman's agreement with MLB to not go over recommended slot for each pick, and it getting harder and harder to find players who were willing to sign for those numbers. I think it also goes to Kenny cutting the draft dollars so that he could put more into the big club. I didn't mean that, it seems to me that there were several prospect who I would've love to see on the sox, but b/c of the kickback, we didn't make a offer. that was any offer for about 2 or 3 yrs.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:13 PM) I believe you knowingly just posted a falsehood. The soxtalk illuminati are now discussing the proper punishment hahaha ..... I was wondering when the old K23 will come out.

Everyone knows or should at least know that JR is not afraid to spend money or trade for the right player, if his management say so .... that is my point.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:03 PM) Not as much lucky as way underspend in favor of spending on the major league roster. you know I been wanting to ask this a long time ago .....when the sox guy got caught in the kickback scheme, would you agree that maybe the sox made a agreement not to sign player for several yrs?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:00 PM) IMO, the right move is simply to play the waiting game. It would be completely unsurprising if an option presented itself. Noesi and Paulino still have skill even though we haven't gotten major results yet. Rienzo continues to show promise as a back of the rotation starter. EJ has been a huge disappointment so far but that could very well change as the season goes on. The guys at AA have been disappointing but again, it wouldn't be surprising at all to see them pick it up as the season goes on. On top of that, the Sox continue to have some options that are going to need to be traded if they don't make a run at the division, which could help fill in a hole/provide minor league depth, and who knows what else may become available. Thanks to having some degree of flexibility, if a team had a highly-paid guy comparable to John Danks that they were interested in dumping later this year, the Sox could potentially fill in a rotation spot without having to give up much in the way of talent even for a veteran that way as well. If it gets to next offseason and no option has presented itself and the lineup continues to produce and we're ready to sign Viciedo to a long term extension and we know who our 2015 catcher is and we know who our 2015 3b is and we know who our 2015 2b is and we can cover the gaps in the bullpen, then a big SP signing could still make sense, but there's no good reason to obsess over it right now. that was damn good post .... the only problem I have with it, if any is signing Viciedo and its b/c of his agent comes into play.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 1, 2014 -> 01:19 AM) I did not write the quote you attributed to me SS2K5 and according to the guidelines of this site "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false." Marty .... Marty .... marty, I really don't need to come to SS2K5 defense, but the poster I know as SS2K5 doesn't come at anyone or causes problems ..... so chill

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2014 -> 01:55 PM) Who are these castoffs with potential? They didn't sign any high priced free agents from other teams from 1997 when they signed Albert Belle until 2010 when they signed Adam Dunn. It was the first time they gave a free agent from another team more than $20 million during that stretch. The Sox spent a lot of money on pitching. They didn't sign expensive guys, they traded for them. Wells, Colon, Garcia, Peavy, Vazquez, Jackson, Contreras....these were high priced guys they brought in. it a sad commentary of how unlucky our draft has been in the higher rounds.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2014 -> 01:36 PM) Perhaps several reasons. "They're really good at developing their own starting pitching even using other teams castoffs" plays into it, as does the not wanting to give contracts to guys likely to be hurt. They still have several castoffs from other teams with potential this year even if people don't want to admit it. exactly, we have always lucky in that area. with a high draft pick this yr, scouring the waiver wire, and the young talent have in the minors, who maybe 3-4 yr away, we are decent fix with pitching. however, in a fix for right now, we may need to think of other way to find a fix.

With all due respect to this post and your writing it, it is very plain that you are very educated, but to most who are not in, as you say the economic elict. knew of this. the only time any politician give us the time and day is when election time comes around. I will say this hold true to most in the political parties in America.

QUOTE (joeynach @ May 1, 2014 -> 07:40 AM) I have generally become very skeptical of signing free agents at or above 30 years of age to be the "fill in the gaps" and put us back in contention types. Most of them get exorbitant amounts of money in their mid to late 30s where if you dont win the WS in the first couple of years of these contracts you are in bad shape. Not just the mega deals for the 8 WAR guys like Puljos, Cano, Kershaw and such, but even the 7 year $214M for Fielder, 7 Year $120M for Werth, the $140M for Choo and Elsbury, the $120M for Hamilton. Ugh even the 5 year $80M deals guys like BJ Upton, Brian McCann got makes me want to puke. If the Sox want to improve and have money to spend now with the very low commitments they have on the books keep doing what they are doing. More int'l scouting and Free Agents where the value is greater, more draft picks aimed at immediate contribution (not turn an athlete into a ballplayer projects), more trading for players with numerous team control years left, more Free Agents who can be had on short term deals or who are in need of rebound prove it type contracts (Sizemore, Cruz, Chris Young, Corey Hart, Michael Morse). I agree with you on most part, keep scouting and try to rebuild. however, if we need to fill a hole in our ml club, a quick fix may be the fa way. ex ... catcher the min age there is starting at 32 yrs. a short fix of several yrs would do. starting pitcher, min age starting at 29 yrs however some really good pitcher at 31-33 yrs - 4 yr contract may be worth it and if needed there are a couple of outfielder that may be really a good find. these are just fa's signing, how bout a trade route, I trust Hahn in this area with our giving up the farm for a players. I feel very good about this club now, more than recent yrs.

is anyone having problems with the site. when I post and go to the main forum, the forum jumps as the advertising is loading. I have to click several time to go another site .... going from pale horse to future sox.