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QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 03:02 AM) So, how is this affecting your family? Or are you just unhappy with her spiritual choices? If its the first, you have a right to be concerned. If its the second, it isn't really your business with all due respect. How is she reacting to your concerns? All those things would make a difference to me at least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The fear is that it will affect my family. We have twins on the way. No other children at all. It could affect my family a lot if you look at the celebrations of birthdays and holidays that my family takes part in that she will have no part of. She will be isolating herself which will have an affect on me or not allow my children to have birthday parties or celebrate holidays which I would disaprove of since that is a great part of being a child. I want my children to experience Christmansm Easter, Halloween, and Birthdays. I want my wife to celebrate them with us because I don't want her to isolate herself. What if my child needs a blood transfusion at some point to live? What if my wife does? I don't want her or someone else scaring my children and making them believe the end of the world is near. All of this can affect my family. I am scared for the way it will affect my family and my wife. I am very concerned about both because I want the best for not only my family but also my wife. Do you see what I mean or no? Just writing all of that just made it seem even more cultish.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 11:22 PM) I was being a bit of a smart ass there.. I don't know what their problem is.. I try not to pay much attention to threads on religion because it is an individual and personal thing.. but I recall a near WW3 a year or so ago where JW's were compared to pagens (I think that's was what they were called.) The devil worship folks. In any event.. good luck. Try what Jason suggested. Maybe meeting them will give you a better feel for things. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have met them. As people they are nice. It is what they teach and preach that has me concerned. They are far from pagans. Pagans aren't devil worshipers either. Pagans practive nature or earth based religions, much like the native americans. I don't know why they have such a bad name attached to them such as devil worshipers. If anything, from what I have learned, they try to seperate themseleves from pagan rituals. They consider birthdays and weddings pagen rituals. They can even date Halloween back to the pagens which is why they don't celebrate it.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 11:13 PM) Uneducated, unaware, or uninformed. I wasn't refering to someone coming in and crapping on you as that.. if that happens I would guess it would be a direct shot from someone who doesn't much like JW's and has stated so before. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I knew what ignorant meant. I wasn't asking for a definition and I think you knew that. I don't think you really had to go out of your way and go to thesaurus.com for me, but that was nice of you. Sorry, I am IGNORANT to the fact that someone around here doesn't like the Jehovah's Witnesses and has stated that before. Is there a reason for this dislike or is there just an ignorant dislike for them?

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 11:06 PM) Ingorance.. interesting description. Good luck. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What is that supposed to mean? Please explain.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:55 PM) Yea.. I read your post. And I'll say it again just as I did the first time I read it.. I'm sorry.. but religion is something you shouldn't be going to outside sources for advice on. Perhaps someone in your current religion could help..? And I'm going to be honest with you.. I'll bet a lump that some asshole poster will come in here and s*** on you and your request for help, and it will start a bunch of s*** no matter how innocent your question was. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Steff, but that is not what you said the first time. You said that I should discuss this with my wife. I clearly stated in a couple posts before that that I did discuss this with my wife. Someone in my religion would still be an outside source, would it not? This is the best way to reach a lot of people at once to find information. Where else do you go for reigion except an oustide source? I don't understand that comment one bit. I don't care if an asshole poster is going to s*** on me or my request for help. That will just show their ignorance. I can and will ignore a response like that. Someone on this board has helped me with information already. That is what I am looking for. Past experiences with these people. Maybe someone that studied with them and has some stuff that they learned from them. Stuff to look out for. This cult/religion makes me nervous from what I have learned about it so far and I am asking to see I should be reacting this way. False prophecies, no holidays, no blood transfusions, and the end of the world is near talk lead me to a very cultish uneasy feeling about the whole thing.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:50 PM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovahs_Witnesses Why don't you start here... Few questions for you- Does your wife have any former history of religion? family members? When/how did this start? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you. That helps a lot. She does have a history of religion. She has been involved with different sects of Christianity. She is always looking to get closer to God and to get to know God. This started about 2 months ago. Her mother has been involved in it and has now got my wife and sister-in-laws involved in it.

QUOTE(Steff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) I really hope this does not sound rude.. but you need to discuss this matter with your wife.. not us. Good luck. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Steff, have you read my post? I have discussed it with her. I am looking for information about this and to find a way to get her out of it. It is scary to me, which I have told her. I have posted here to get information because I can reach the most people this way and someone may have information for me. Do you really think I would not communicate this with my wife? I don't mean to be rude either, but will you at least please read my posts before you post to them. It would really help a lot.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) I always know they go around whining and saying your the devil for celebrating halloween and all that stuff too. It seems like they are too damn concerned with everyone else and what other people do for joy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Very true. That is when she first started and she didn't want to celebrate Halloween. She wouldn't even pass out the candy I bought for the children. She said that they are celebrating the devil. I said the kids dressed up as spider man and the princess are celebrating the devil? All they know is that they say trick or treat and they get a damn piece of candy. It is a great holiday for kids and they are not even thinking about God or the devil. It bugged the crap out of me.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) Dude, that sucks that you feel you are losing your wife to religion. At the same time, asking her to make a decision between her religion and you would only cause a lot of heartache and pain for the both of you. Have you two talked about your religious beliefs that you share and don't share? How the children would be raised spiritually? Maybe it would be smart to ask her how her beliefs would affect your future children? Tell her that you wouldn't feel it's fair to deny your children the joys of birthdays and Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. Tell her that you can't accept refusing medical treatment for your kids like a blood transfusion. But unless you two communicate and share openly your spiritual beliefs with each other, it won't work - I don't think at least. You might find out that what she believes is just strict and not cultish. And she might be open-minded about what you need from your relationship with God too. Make it clear that you're concerned because you're confused about what her new religious path means for them. But talk with her first and see how she's feeling about this and your family first before you fly off the handle and start calling them cultish or whatever. I guess, handle with care is the best advice I can give. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Trust me, we have talked. That is what led me to this post. We communicate very well.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) In college one of my best girl friends had a roomate who was a Jehova's witness. I think the part that really got me was something along the lines of: "There are only 140,000 spaces in heaven and almost all of them are already taken, what we are offering is a place on Earth after armageddon." http://www.watchman.org/profile/jwpro.htm SB <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There is another cultish thing they push. Always pushing that the end of the world is near. I have heard that they have made many false prophecies as well. When I told my wife about this she asked her Bible study person and she had a legitimate answer for all of them. False prophecies are supposedly the work of the devil, correct?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) You're not serious are you? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am dead serious.

My wife has recently been studying with them and to be honest with you it is scaring the hell out of me. I don't like what these people teach and it seems very cultish to me. Almost like they isolate themselves from the rest of the normal world with no celebration of birthdays, christmas, or easter, which the majority of us celebrate. There are also no blood transfusions. We are about to have twins and this is really scaring me that our kids would be brought up into this situation. I guess I am looking for information from people and if what I feel is correct. Should I be scared about this? Should I try to get my wife away from them? I fear it is too late and they are already brain washing her. I have no place to turn to or anywhere to try to get her mind free and see that it is nothing but a cult. WHAT CAN I POSSIBLY DO? I feel that I will lose my marriage and it will affect the way my children are raised if I don't get her out of this thing. PLEASE HELP!

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) I think if the Sox are seriously looking to sign Bill Mueller, the health of Crede's back must not be looking too good. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Since when is a couple of herniated discs in the lower back not looking too good? Seriously though, isn't that what has been reported? Isn't this the condition he is sufferring from? I believe this is what I have heard, but I could be wrong.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) Wow, wow, wow. :headshake <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That article is ridiculous. I can't ever see Konerko getting booed in Chicago. Even if he took a little bit more money some place else I couldn't see him ever getting booed. He helped bring us a MLB World Championship. How can you possibly boo that?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) I can't blame Konerko one iota for testing the waters to see what his value is. And let's say the Angels do offer him $15M per for 5 years and the Sox offer $13 per for 4 with an option on the 5th year, I don't think Paulie's a bad guy for taking the Angels offer. The difference in guaranteed money is $23M. Does anyone really expect a guy to leave that much money on the table for the sake of loyalty? It's a business, too. Just like when Kenny Williams couldn't consider the 'loyalty' issue when he traded Rowand. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is also common sense. What is easier for the White Sox to replace right now? A solid defensive outfielder that will hit .270 - .300 with 13-20 HRs and 60-70 RBIs? Or a left handed power bat that could hit 40 HRs and 120 RBI? Since the Sox have been after a left handed power bat since ...... forever... I am going with that one. Not only was it business, but common sense. I don't care what prospects were involved. I don't care that Rowand was a stooge. Thome is a good clubhouse guy as well and I am sure he will fit right in. This argument that it is a bad trade is so ridiculous. I will miss Rowand as much as anyone because he seemed like such a class act and a great guy. But come on, give me a break already.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 04:07 PM) I really don't see Kenny trading for Pierre. Pierre will cost a lot in terms of prospects and salary in 2006 and we already have a dirt cheap option in Brian Anderson who supposedly plays very good defense in center field. He also projects to put up Rowand-type offensive numbers. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Rowand type offensive numbers as a rookie with a much bigger upside in power.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 04:30 PM) He's being overpayed in both cases. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you for answering the question.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 28, 2005 -> 03:56 PM) Someone told me they heard (yeah, yeah I know) on Comcast Sports Net that Ana. had already offered Pauly 4-5 years at 75 mil. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well which is it. 4 years or 5? That is a big difference. 15 million a year or 18.75? If it is 15 I think we will match it. If it is 18.75 you can kiss him goodbye. 15 is bordering on overpaying for Paulie. 18.75 is way overpaying for him.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 27, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) Brian Anderson is the reason why Aaron Rowand became expendable. We have an abundance of OF prospects in the minors and BA is the one closest to ML ready. In all likelyhood he'll be the Sox' opening day starter in '06 and should be around for a while after that as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What are your thoughts on Chris Young? Where does he fit in? Will one of them move to a corner OF position? Maybe when Jermaine Dye leaves?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 05:40 PM) Umm...Seahawks weakness has long been WR. They always have drops. This year they have been better, but they don't have a receiver even close to TO. TO would make them a legit super bowl contender. Thats if TO shuts up and plays. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are correct. It was a weakness. This year has been different. They rid themselves of the bad apples who didn't give a crap. They have the 5th best passing offense in the NFC behind Philly, St. Louis, Arizona, and Green Bay. I really don't think they need T.O. I really don't think they need to take that chance/risk. They also have the 3rd best rushing offense and the best offense overall in the entire NFL. I don't think they are hurting on offense. If this was a defensive player with some baggage then maybe you can see where the risk would be worth the reward. They really don't need another WR this year. They have a really good offense. What they need is defense.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) right but noon wednesday was the supposed timetable so this makes sense. Will he clear waivers first so nobody absorbs his contract? I hope my Broncos don't sign him. I don't want to mess with a good thing <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I bet the Broncos will try to sign him next year if he is available. This year I can't see it. I don't understand the Seahawks either. They are loaded at WR with Darrell Jackson coming back this week or next. Jurevicious, Engram, Darrell Jackson. That is very nice and I don't think T.O. fits.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) Falcons perhaps? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No way with the Falcons. They have already said they will not pick him up. They don't want him anywhere near Michael Vick.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) NOTHING has been decided yet by the arbitrator though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did you read the article? That is what the article is about. It is getting inside information on the report.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 23, 2005 -> 05:08 PM) What would you suggest the Eagles do? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I suggest that the arbitrator agree with what the Eagles did in the first place. Send him home with pay. If not, then let the Eagles do with him what they wish. Make him run special teams drills in practice. Make him be the "wedgebreaker" on special teams. Make him show up on time at 5AM for weight training. If he won't do any of these things then suspend him again for conduct detrimental to the team. Don't force the Eagles to play him or make him practice like he was before his attitude went all bad.

Newsweek: T.O. to be released What do you guys think? I personally think it is ridiculous. This goes to show that any player that wants to be released or traded just has to do what T.O. did. It sets a bad standard for a lot of other disgruntled players that don't like their current contract situation.