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QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 01:38 PM) Good luck is all I can say. Stores tend to get them on Sunday mornings, that's about all that can be said. Around here Blockbuster's sell systems and not many people know about. I was there the other day and they had a few wi's available for sale.

QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Buy a Samsung, the "Game mode" is ridiculous. Samsung makes some absolutely awesome tv's. Not only are they amongst the best out there, they are also reasonably priced.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Jan 8, 2008 -> 01:26 PM) We would bring in the Orioles because we want Bedard and we don't have what it takes to get him. It's a three way because the Orioles want Kendrick, but don't have the big bat that the Angels want to get him. Hypothetically, it makes sense. Realistically, well that's another story... I got to be honest, that deal would give the Sox a solid as hell defensive outfield, they would still have a good lineup (not as great, but good), and the rotation would be a s***LOAD better. They would be definite contenders if such a deal went down.

I want to go out and thank all of you. If it wasn't for all the intelligent, enthusiastic as hell posters this site has it wouldn't be anything. I built the forum, the mods/admins do an awesome job maintaining it, but it is each and every one of you that help make it Soxtalk!!!!

QUOTE(Felix @ Jan 6, 2008 -> 06:05 PM) My brother (who I saw it with) enjoyed it as well. I also know other people that liked it. I wasn't looking for much, I just wanted some good zombie entertainment, which is what I got with a kickass soundtrack. As a whole it was better than the first one. I was entertained throughouly throughout the movie. The first movie was possibly the best zombie movie ever until the point where they join up with the f'd up army (after that it went drastically downhill).

God damn it. Another pick. That was a horrendous pick too. I wanted Pitt to get a TD cause I want to see a game tonight. Pretty nice play by Landry I guess.

That is a terrible f***ing call. There is no god damn way that shouldn't be a catch. ABSOLUTELY NONE. Let alone to overturn the initial call which was a catch.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 04:40 PM) KW traded for Richar and I think will stick with him. KW would rather have young pitching than Kendrick. You can probably get a couple of young pitchers if you don't include Kendrick. There is a possibility of the a leadoff/CF guy to come in a deal. But my opinion is that that if PK is dealt it will be for starting pitching at either the minor league or young major league level. He may be satisfied with the rotation (but we also know if KW says that he is probably looking for more) but would love to increase the MLB ready or near ready depth. Actually since this rumor is out there it probably is a smoke screen for something else. KW is more successful under the radar. The fact that there are so many leaks coming out makes me feel like this is BS. I know the Angels have been accused of having some leaks in the past but Kenny rarely has a deal that gets leaked this far in advance and actually happens. I'm thinking they would consider dealing Kenny but I would reckon teams like the Dodgers, Mariners, & Giants are more realistic options.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) Now, if it's that trade, I have no problem with it. I'm hoping for a minor miracle cause I'd be so exstatic about that type of trade. WIth that sort of deal Kenny will have pretty much completely overhauled the team, making it young, faster, better, and more complete.

That is why Todd Collins isn't an NFL starter and this ends the game. Good lord he had no arm strenght, but i'd also kick the living s*** out of Moss for completely giving up on the play cause that should not have been intercepted, rather a simple incomplete pass. What a lazy piece of s*** play by Moss. God that is f***ing terrible.

60 yard return, pending the penalty. I hope to hell it isn't a block. Oh god that is a terrible f***ing call. The Seattle player turned around when the Was player was in the midst of a block. I don't like that call at all, but I understand it is the correct call per the rule books.

Hasselbach gives the Seahawks the lead. At least this is turning into a game and good god is Leron Landry an athlete. Its too bad Manning hasn't been able to develop cause he at least has great speed at the safety position (unfortunately he can't cover for s*** yet or hit like Landry can). I know one thing, watching the Skins d makes me like the idea of Kenny Phillips (safety out of the U) being an early draft pick.

QUOTE(SoxPride56 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 03:50 PM) Do you have a link for this? I can not find it anywhere at WSI I pulled the original quote directly from there, so it is on there. Rockabilly is the person who posted it.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 02:25 PM) the guy from WSI was spot on during the last trade the sox made, he broke the news online like 2 hours before anyone else had...i think it was teh cabrera deal, or maybe it was the quentin deal, i cant rememer which it was It was the Quentin deal.

QUOTE(Wanne @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 02:10 PM) One thing that struck me on some of the Angel forums I read was people were pretty much 50/50 on Kotchman as well. The trade really doesn't make much sense for them unless they do something with him. See, that argument I can at least buy into (whether the Angels would even be suited trading Kochman for Konerko because you could make a case that Kochman is younger and practically as good, although Paulie puts up much more power and wasn't protected (Kochman rarely, if ever played against lefties, which obviously inflates certain numbers). Nor was Kochman one of the key cogs of the lineup (something Paulie always has been).

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) Link me. It was there MLB forum. So angelsbaseball.com and than go to the forums. There is just one thread on the subject (I assume it is still the top thread).

I stumbled to an Angel forum and it made me so much more appreciative of Soxtalk. The posters there were saying they wouldn't deal Figgins for Konerko and that Konerko's contract is one of the worse in baseball (bahahaa, so laughable given the fact that his contract, if anything, is a steal given today's market). The best part yet is that 80% of the people said that if they traded for Paulie, they would play him at 3B. I know we are all biased in our demands but still, I don't think any of us are stupid enough to call Konerko's contract a joke or even think of putting Paulie at 3B.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 01:10 PM) I love it. Player for player it was a steal. Swisher is my kind of player, high OBP, big power potential, young, versatile and a quality character. Sweet deal. When Kalapse approves a move, I feel better.

QUOTE(JFields27 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 12:59 PM) I was just over WSI and some guy posted that his friend heard this on ESPN Radio I just say wow, and would have to let it sink it to get my true feelings about it but from first looks I think i like it, though idk if that leadoff spot was taken care of. Rodriguez isnt ready i dont think either. There is no way that was said on ESPN Radio. There would have been multiple people verifying they heard it. I wish it was, but that person on WSI is flat out fooling everyone.

Wow....Rice had a monster game. He could be a great pickup for the Bears as well. Looks like the type of guy that could be a complete back. Not as explosive as Mendenhall but I don't think the Bears will have a shot at Mendenhall unless they take him at 14, which I wouldn't do.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 12:40 PM) I think it's someone looking at the Sox, seeing what they need, and putting something together. The trade is just too good to be true, and it basically fills EVERY hole this team has. Just going with this, because I'm bored at work, I would think the Halos would be interested in Richar, unless they have a 2b to fill Kendricks shoes. Acquiring Kendrick obviously means Danny can go, and I don't have a problem with that. With Speier, I could see them getting rid of some salary (after taking on Kong and Crede) but is he really even a salary dump? He made 3.7 last year, and put up great numbers. With Shields being iffy last season, are the Angels even in a position to deal Speier? Overall, what would the LAA lineup look like if this trade went down? LF-Willits CF-Hunter? RF-Vlad DH-Konerko? 1B-Kotchman 3B-Crede SS-Aybar C-Napoli? 2b-Richar I that really that much better than RF-Willits 3B-Figgins DH-Vlad CF-Hunter LF-Anderson 1B-Kotchman 2B-Kendrick SS-Aybar C-Napoli I don't think it is, and thats not even talking about Speier and Santana I would imagine that the Angels would be high on Aybar, Wood, and Itzuris and if Kendrick & Figgins are dealt you would see Itzuris and Wood/Aybar playing. Again, I'm with you, is it really an upgrade. However, the Angels still have a ridiculous log-jam in the outfield. I really don't understand the Angels predicament right now. Signing Hunter made little sense given everything else and while the Angels are a legit playoff contender now and would be after the trade as well, there is still the issue of having Anderson/Matthews Jr./Rivera (to a lesser extent) all battling for playing time with practically 30M tied up between them. Plus you have Willits too.

Only one thing, no way is OC hitting anywhere but the 2 spot in the order. Kendrick would probably hit ahead of Quentin and eventually move up ahead of AJ as well.

Sox hired Ernie Young to be the batting coach in Great Falls. Young is a career minor leaguer who I think holds some minor league records and has been in the Sox system for a while now. He retired at the end of this past season as a player. Joe McEwing played for the Mets & Cardinals and will be the Charlotte Knights hitting coach.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 12:17 PM) There is no way this is true, and shame on this guy for getting me way too excited than I should be. I thought that. I was thinking Spier may have less value to the Angels, but I looked again and my memory of Spier's season in Anaheim was off a bit as he was very productive when out there. 50 innings, 36 Hits, 47K's and a Sub 3 ERA. The contract is a decent size though. Bobby Wilson forget about, he is roster fodder and would be little different than us including one of our minor league catchers. I could maybe buy into Crede for Spier. Maybe and that is if the Angels got awesome medical reports and even than I find it hard to believe. I could also see some sense in Konerko for Kendrick & Figgins (again, I don't know if it is super realistic, but given the rumors I can buy into it although I think it would be odd that the Angels get rid of Figgins & Kendrick). And could Shelby go for Santana, maybe if the Angels are real down on Santana and figure they are at least getting a high upside guy in return in Shelby. Basically the Sox are buying low, but giving up a guy who in a year or two may be a franchises #2 prospect. But bottom line even after making the move they would still have a decent infield, the only question is the top of the order (if they are confident in Willits they still have a good leadoff hitter, but would Willits play when you have Vladdy/Torri/Garret Anderson (since if they keep Kochman they are going to be playing him a bit at 1B and DH'ing Paulie). Bottom line the 2B/SS combo would be the most likely 1-2 in the lineup and that is where the Angels would have the least amount of experience. Unless of course the Angels have a deal with the Orioles worked out which would bring in Roberts because there is no way the Angels would mortgage there future to an extent without ensuring a good top of the order. I really don't see the logic without the Angels having something else up there sleeve. Hell, the main thing I have is why would the Angels give up both Kendrick and Figgins. Than again, I'd still do the deal if the Sox only got one of those guys so maybe there is some sort of truth to this.

This is the rumor per a poster on WSI who scooped the Quentin trade earlier this offseason: According to him, this is per someone he talked to within the Angels front office. Let me just say that if there was any truth to that, I will be sending Kenny a thank you card directly to US Cellular with me never ever saying a bad thing about Kenny ever again. The only way I could possibly see any truth to this sort of deal is if Wilson is a nobody (Honestly I couldn't even tell you who the hell this Wilson guy is, aside from the fact that his name is Bobby Wilson and he is a catcher on the Angels 40 man roster, but I'm going to assume he's a warm body of some sort). Santana has to have almost zero value in the Angels minds and they just want to be rid of him and Speir must have almost zero value as the Angels would be trying to get rid of his contract (he was hurt last season and very unproductive, so maybe this is true). That would basically make it Figgins & Kendrick for Konerko with Crede/Shelby (Shelby has value, so that should be pointed out) going for guys that have little value in the Angels mind (Santana, Spier, Wilson). Again, I see absolutely no logic in this move unless of course the Angels have Santana with damn near zero value and Spier with a negative trade value. From the Sox perspective it all makes sense. Figgins plays CF, Kendrick plays 2B, Santana enters the rotation, Spier teams up with Linebrink to give you a couple proven middle relievers (the pen, if the guys were all healthy and productive would have a chance of being flat nasty) and obviously Swisher moves to 1B. Richar/Uribe are still on the roster and one would probably be moved (or Richar would just stick in the minors for another year being groomed potentially as a SS??). From the Angels side I guess it gives them a legit 3b & 1B when healthy. Defensively the Angels massively upgrade at 3B (a healthy Crede is one of the best in the game at the hot corner and the Angels defense at the hot corner has been shoddy for a number of years). Konerko obviously gives them middle of the order protection. On paper the Angels do become a better team with this deal, but they are giving up an awful lot as well (basically this would be a sign of the Angels feeling heavy pressure to win the series now and maybe Moreno has put that sort of pressure on Scioscia and the new GM Reagins).