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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 06:23 AM) With Torri Hunter and Andruw Jones on the market, he won't even come close to what he is looking for. Maybe those numbers are why the Sox are rumored with Hunter/Jones and not Rowand? There will be enough teams with money going after all three that he'll likely get close to that. It actually isn't bad because if he's looking that there is a chance he'll end up getting a bit less. The only ugly thing is the years but given the market conditions a 4yr 13M a year type deal would be pretty solid (it would be a bit of a discount). I'm not saying it would be a smart deal but it would fit in with the current economics and if Rowand came close to this years production I would have no problem with it (note I'd drastically prefer picking up a young CFer or a cheaper CFer like Figgins).

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 10:07 AM) No one is going to trade for Joe Crede. Not after back surgery. The Phils would to unload Burrell's contract. They have a strong offense and are going to be putting a lot of money into the rotation and pen (Rivera & Schilling are apparently two of there targets).

QUOTE(DaGame2584 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 09:54 AM) What do you think the lineup would look like if the Sox sign Hunter also? SS could be fill by Wood? PLUS just imagine how many times we can hear Hawk say "He loves Wood" lol I think Figgins actually has a better chance of being a full time shortstop than Wood. Wood is going to have to probably move over to 3rd, plus I don't think he's quite ready for the majors. However, I definitely think the Sox would have the financial leeway to be able to add Hunter. In this case I assume you would probably have Figgins playing the bulk of the time at SS or 2B (with Wood/Richar battling it out). Than if all of Wood/Richar pan out (and if Figgins can play SS) you than probably slide Wood to 3rd and move Fields to LF (or if Fields projects as the better defensive 3rd baseman, slide Wood to LF) when Burrell leaves. 2007 Lineup: Figgins Hunter (I'm thinking stick him in the 2 spot) Dye Thome Burrell Kochman Fields AJP Richar/Wood In the Garland/Konerko trade you free up ~20M You also are losing Pods/Mack/Erstad/Iguchi (~7-9M) So thats 29M or so freed up. The Burrell deal would increase your payroll by ~6M (w/Phils paying like 3-4M) and than if Hunter or whomever got $15M that would be a total increase of ~21M (but you've cleared out even more than that, and obviously some in-house guys have raises to there contracts).

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 09:53 AM) Does Figgins have the ability to play SS? Because it'd make a lot more sense in this market to either go with Owens for an OF slot or spend some of our money on an OF right now than it would to try to magically find a SS when the only one really on the market is Eckstein (and we'd have moved our best trading chip in Garland already without filling that spot). He's played there before but its hard to get any time when OC is playing there all the time. He has good range and is a decent fielder and definitely possesses a strong enough arm for short so I don't see why he wouldn't be capable of playing (how good he would be, I'm not sure, but I think he could be at least league average and he could even turn out to be better than that defensively). I just think if you can get him at one position and let him play you'd see him turn into a plus defender wherever he is.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 09:33 AM) If somehow the Halos would actually be interested in that deal, which btw, would probably involve Arte Moreno having a stroke considering how long he's held onto Wood (no comments), then yes, we'd have more than enough money to go after a Hunter, if you though he'd be worth the contract he's going to get (I still don't). It is more Stoneman that would have the stroke than Moreno. I would definitely have no problem with that deal. Burrell slides in at LF, Figgins in CF (or at 2nd or SS), Dye in RF, Fields at 3rd, Insert SS, Richar, Kochman, AJP behind the plate. That is a pretty solid offense and you obviously get picks for Burrell if he walks (than again you'd get picks for Crede too most likely).

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 07:20 PM) Correct. I'm not sure if you were listening at the time, but I did make a piont that if you wanted to come on an educate Mario and I about the Hawks we'd be up for it (like a 10-15 minute hockey segment every couple weeks with you discussing the Hawks). We'd probably mainly ask questions as neither of us are majorly up on hockey but it would definitely be good for the show as we are trying to emphasize a chicago sports theme.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 06:30 PM) Phillips was often referred to as lazy and never put up anywhere near the periphs that Jack has. Phillips was also repeating AAA for the umteenth time as well. Its not a knock on Heath either, but its just not comparing apples to apples. I also think at some point in time Heath will have a couple year run at the major league level (back of the pen lefty). It will not be with the Sox though.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 06:20 PM) He doesn't have much of a fastball and as such doesn't belong on this list. Besides, I don't think he's better than anyone on that list, and he definitely has no high ceiling. He's "smart," and he has good control, and he throws a good sinker, but with his fastball, he's going to have to prove some things at AAA and at the majors before he can be indignant that someone says he isn't a top prospect by any standard. I can't believe people are actually indignant because Jack Egbert isn't on this list. Toolsy or not, the guy had one of the best seasons in all of minor league baseball. I'm not about to say he's a sure fire ace nor is he the organizations #1 prospect, however, he's definitely top 5 and he projects anywhere from a #3 guy to a #5 guy. At his best I think he could be a very good 3 (I should note that on many teams a very good 3 would actually be there #1 or #2 pitcher). I also think he's the type of guy that you can be pretty confident will at least be a serviceable 5th starter in the majors (but there is very little chance he'd ever be a legit #1 guy either). Basically he's what I'd grade as a relatively low risk prospect (in the sense that I fully believe he will have a major league career) with middle to good upside (ie middle of the rotation starter). I don't see anything wrong with that and when you throw his stats into the mix as well as that sink ground ball rate and you'd have to consider him possible on that top 20 (than again I saw who didn't make that list, and there are at least a few guys that didn't make the list that I'd take over Egbert).

QUOTE(WatchIt @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 01:06 PM) That is correct. His change is nothing to sell short though. He throws it at around 81 and when he has a good feel for it, he will use it all night long mixed in with his sinker. The thing that makes his curve so effective is that he changes the speed on it, thus changing it's action, all the way from the low to high 70's. Thanks for that info on Egbert and Welcome Aboard!!!!

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 10, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) Rumor has it college gameday has contacted Illinois officials about possibly coming down for college gameday next week vs Michigan. I'm not banking Iowa as a win, just thought the mention of this even possibly happening is really cool. There aren't a ton of good games next week, and it is one of the Saturday night games. We'll see what happens. Iowa will pull the upset. Our defense will do a good job against the run and Christensen is actually gonna have a good game. And yes, this is me getting all dreamy cause I always predict wins over the Illini.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Oct 10, 2007 -> 06:26 PM) I'm a great poster, I'm semi popular and I deserve a shoutout. Thanks for coming through, Mario. Did you listen? I don't think you would be dissapointed as I did give you a shoutout.

Happy Birthday to All of you!!!!

Its probably because people are looking for the latest SSR radio show In all honesty I don't recall us being in any major publication over the past month but it wouldn't shock me. Every once in a while the site gets picked up on Rotoworld or some random spot on ESPN. Either way thats a cool stat and something I'm proud of.

God damn it...Fullerton may just be better than Iowa this year. Uggh my College Basketball teams are horrible.

QUOTE(Vance Law @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 11:50 PM) What? Why won't anybody do the math. It's just counting. If you deal Contreras' $10 mil salary for Furcal's $13 mil salary, you haven't gained "tons of financial flexibility." Contreras has more years left on his contract. I was mainly speaking of the financial flexibility gained in the Konerko/Garland deal.

Ya, it should be up tonight. Mario was just joking around about it being 2 weeks (It would be two weeks if they were relying on me). Tuesday @ 9 Central Time is going to be the time slot for the show.

Archived Show WIll be Up Soon!!!!

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 07:21 PM) I guess we aren't going to have that debate? Starting Next Week for sure.

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QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) I mean, is this really a deal that all of you guys can get excited about? There would have to be additional deals to make this in the Sox favor. Yes, if the Sox replaced Paulie's bat with Arod or another top bat or if they went out and made a major splash elsewhere. However, I think if you move Garland you have to find a way to get another arm in here (as I still would want to move Contreras for parts).

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QUOTE(WCSox @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 04:04 PM) I would've loved to have Shields a few years ago, but he's on the wrong side of 30, has been used a ton in recent years, and IIRC just got a big contract earlier this year. I fear that he'd be another Billy Kotch. I still say just swap Shields with Santana. The Angels soured a bit on Santana and I still think they like Shields a lot (and if they didn't, it has to be because they have concerns about his longevity).

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 03:52 PM) I'd settle for Furcal if the Dodgers would take Contreras and a C prospect. That would give the Sox soooo much financial flexibility. Yes, that would give the Sox tons of financial flexibility but my question is what do they use it on. They would have there entire lineup set and about 20M freed up. Would they spend that money on pitching, as it is obvious they would need to add at least one starter to the rotation (a rotation with Vaz/Buehrle and 3 unknowns would be awfully tough to win with). If you can get Arod and than find a way to get Santana to be a part of the deal, than you at least have Earvin Santana/Buehrle/Vaz and the ability to move Jose for financial freedom (if wanted) or you could hold onto Jose and than let Danks and the others battle it out for the 5th spot.