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QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 21, 2007 -> 06:04 PM) We are hammering the ball early tonight. Hopefully that is a sign of things to come. They looked pretty good at the plate the entire weekend in Chicago.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 21, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) By the way, KW, please bring us a REAL LFer! It makes so much sense...Kenny has to do it (the only question is if teams are willing to give up a guy this early).

Brian Anderson hurt his shoulder.

I Think there is legitimate reason to at least speculate that he could be on the verge of getting deal in a deal that brings the Sox back more than one guy that would fit on the 40 man roster (or it could just be an injury). Either way I like speculating.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 21, 2007 -> 02:50 PM) What purpose would Brady Clark serve? If we're not going to play Sweeney (and I understand the club's reluctance) everyday, then the player should clearly be better than a platoon of Ozuna and Mackowiak. I don't see how Brady Clark fits that bill. We might as well get a younger player with some upside, rather than recycling more veterans like Mack, Everett and Erstad. Note that I said they tried to acquire him before the season started (back when Pods and Brian Anderson were still on the active roster)

QUOTE(IowaSoxFan @ May 21, 2007 -> 01:00 PM) I think the Sox want no part of Rocco, he has had more injury problems than Pods and Erstad combined. It it was too early to find a good partner to trade with because too many teams feel they are still in contention for the postseason. I think that viable options are Coco Crisp - whom I would rather not have, Matt Kemp, Lastings Milledge, James Loney, Jeff Baker or Fred Lewis.. in other words someone who is being blocked or is blocking someone else from seeing the field. Each team, except the Giants, would probably want SP in return, the Giants may be satisfied will bullpen help. One thing I can tell you is that the Sox have inquired about Rocco in the past and have tried to work out deals for him (this was as recent as a couple weeks before the regular season began). I have no idea if they have had any talks since. I also know the Sox talked to the Brewers about Brady Clark, but were unable to work out an agreement and he eventually went to the Dodgers.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ May 21, 2007 -> 12:16 PM) Good question, papers this morning talked about Bret Prinz who has some ML experience although most of it isn't good. I am pretty sure Guillen and Williams are about out of patience with Sisco, just a hunch. Plus I think they want to stretch Sisco out in order to get him more comfortable with his new arm release as well as further develop some additional pitches (that and your right, they are frustrated with his lack of command).

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ May 21, 2007 -> 12:06 PM) I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying $6M for Erstad in 2008. http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...MLB&id=2252 It's $3.5 million option for the Sox for 2008. If he gets 600 AB's in 2007, Erstad gets the $6M but the White Sox still have the option, i.e. they can decline to pay him $6M and then they'd pay a buyout. I suppose Erstad could get to 600 AB's this year but I doubt it. He's played in 39 of 40 games so far and has 151 AB's. So I guess he is right on track for 600 but he'd have to play in just about every game the rest of the year. Possible, but doubtful. What is much more likely is Erstad gets something less than 600 AB's in 2007 and the Sox pick up his option for $3.5M for 2008. Excellent news. I didn't remember the 6 million but so many were talking about it so I bought into it. I think we will see Erstad back for 3.5 or so.

I think Carl Everett or another bat is on the way. That or they are going to call up Brett Printz to replace someone in the bullpen. I should point out that Printz was pretty highly thought of a few years back and from what I've heard he's been flashing some good stuff down in Charlotte.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 17, 2007 -> 10:09 AM) Seriously? Nolan Ryan after his early years, turned into one of the best pitchers in the history of the game. Once he learned the circle change and lost something out of his fastball, he really learned how to pitch. And Clemens is the the best pitcher over the last 20 years (including when Ryan pitched). The only guy I think was better than Roger was Pedro (but Clemens has been dominant for longer). I would also take Pedro in his prime over Ryan. Both Clemens and Pedro were just superior pitchers (albeit Ryan had a better pure arm).

Both of those clubs will cool down but I still think the Tribe take the division.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ May 21, 2007 -> 11:30 AM) For 2008, you want the Sox to pay $6 million to keep Erstad? For all that he may have exceeded expectations, he has a .307 OBP and a .650 OPS. I'd rather see the Sox stick Sweeney in CF in 2008 and sign/trade someone with power for LF ( the Sox will need it losing Dye and Crede and probably Iguchi). If Erstad is playing well, I think the best case would be the Sox to work out a deal for next season and announce it earlier on (that way Erstad knows he's got a job for next year and the Sox know they raen't paying 6 million cause there is no way Darin is worth that).

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 21, 2007 -> 07:22 AM) Masset isnt stretched out enough to go more than he did yesterday. I think we saw something else also Mike. Remember how many people were upset that Freddy and Bmac were traded because we didnt have a 6th starter waiting in the weeds in case of injury. Well everyone, Massett looks like he can step in. I really think we will sign Buerhle. I think Garland or Contreras is a goner. They have tried to trade Garland a few times and Contreras isnt getting younger. I agree with you on Buehrle and Contreras, however it would be very stupid to move Garland. The guy is this clubs best starter (this season and during the World Series season) and is on the right side of 30. I think if the Sox can keep Buehrle/Garland/Vazquez around with two of Danks/Masset/Gio/Floyd (maybe Broadway, etc) filling in the other two spots with a third being a potential spot starter who could fill in when necessary than this team will be in great shape.

QUOTE(knightni @ May 20, 2007 -> 09:37 PM) So, Masset's struggling a little in the 6th and Ozzie just yanks him. The kid's up by two and trying to get through 6 and has only pitched 76 pitches. So, the genius manager proceeds to bring in gas can Sisco who walks guys and wild pitches a run in while Masset wants to slug Ozzie in the worst way in the dugout for not letting him get himself out of his own jam. I called Guillen an idiot to the TV. Anyone else think Ozzie just got lucky? Are you being sarcastic? Masset didn't have the stamina to throw a ton of pitches (when you aren't throwing 100 pitches every 5 days you can't be expected to go out after being sporadically used and throw 85-90 pitches) and you could see he was very fatigued. He'd have been an idiot to leave him out longer. Ozzie took Masset out when the worse that could happen was Masset getting a ND (had MacDougall gave up both inherited runs). Ozzie has actually been pretty good all season as far as I'm concerned (but I'm in the vast minority).

I'm sorry, but I think you can do far better if you move Jose Contreras. You would also have to get Contreras to agree to waiving his no trade clause. In addition, I don't see Kenny dealing any of the proven starters because it would open up another spot creating a potential hole (especially since there is always a decent chance of an injury in the rotation). I have no problem moving Contreras but I think that time will come during the off-season and I sure as heck ain't moving him for an old outfielder (even if we are talking about getting a pretty darn good hitting one at that).

Hell Ya....another White Sox winner!!!!

Haha...what a way to win. Great game. Pen could have done a better job, but Masset was brilliant and the offense looked the best it has all season long. Maybe the wind blowing in forced them to really improve there approach and as a result they just got in a groove cause the big bats were looking real good (Crede when he was in there, Dye, Konerko, AJ).

As much as I hate to say it (cause I liked Sweeney a lot and expected him to produce enough to stay up) this is the right move. Sweeney needs everyday at bats and right now he's not willing to turn on the inside pitch (once he does that he'll not only be a good major league player, but a very good one). Terrero isn't good, but I'd rather have him up than Sweeney when it comes to a limited AB type of role.

I think its pretty obvious the Sox should pick up an outfielder via trade (whether its a high profile guy or a bit more a stop gap guy). With Dye an impending FA, Erstad/Pods being older guys who have had injuries the reality is we could very well have 3 new starting outfielders next year (maybe two of Fields/Sweeney/Anderson) make the roster but even that is an if and I'm not saying its a good thing so the Sox should be able to go out and get at least one outfielder (I know Kenny said he doesn't have a read on this team yet, but its obvious that they need another outfielder, even once Pods is back they truly need one). So here are some names I think could be interesting: Xavier Nady (strong arm, solid bat, not a star but I think he's a decent role playing outfielder whose a good defensive corner outfielder). Ben Broussard - Mariners - Nice left handed swing and he doesnt play as much in Seattle as he should. He had some pretty damn solid years in Cleveland before struggling half of last year with the Mariners (he's been doing good in limited time for the Mariners this year) and is a guy that would hit 15-20 homers for the club and again would fit in nicely and could play left or right (albeit I'm not sure how good he is out there as he's primarily been a first baseman). Randy Wynn - Giants - Would look real good in the two spot and can obviously play all 3 outfield positions (preferably left because he doesn't have much of an arm). Not sure how interested the Giants would be to move one of there few hitters that is producing. Than there are the bigger names: Carl Crawford: Legitimate upgrade, but I think it would take a major package to land him and the only way I could see the Sox making this deal is if they got a 3rd team involved and were able to parlay a guy like Crede into some prospects (plus give up a guy like Gio and probably one more guy). Even than I don't know if they make that deal, but if they were able to parlay a package involving Crede for Santana they could potentially get the Drays to bite (assuming the Sox offered up another prospect or two to sweeten the deal). This may be a bigger move than the Sox would like to make, but Carl Crawford makes an assload of sense, especially given his affordable contract and the fact that he would offer the Sox a lot of insurance if Dye does leave (and would be a very good long term solution). Ken Griffey Jr: Will the Reds make this move, who knows. Griffey is a legitimate middle of the order bat and is a good defensive outfielder (no longer what he once was, but he's a solid right fielder). The negative is he's up there in age and if you are going to make a big move I think you should really get a guy that can help this team for the next few years and I don't know if Griffey is that guy (however, if the Reds end up selling on the low end, than I would be a buyer on this type of deal). Rocco Baldelli: The Drays have a plethora of young outfielder and Baldelli is struggling so far this year. However, as a whole he's a better than league average player with a good deal of upside who can play all 3 outfield positions and do it well. I think he'd improve greatly from playing at the cell and would also see less injuries moving away from the horrid artificial surface at Tropicana. The question is are the Rays willing to give him up for a reasonable package (no Gio Gonzalez...but instead a couple of, Broadway/Haeger/Phillips/McCulloch/Egbert/Russel) etc. You also have to ask yourself at what point isn't it just a better deal to give up a bit more for the better player in Crawford (if it is in fact an option). Also, like Crawford, Baldelli is signed to an affordable deal and is young so he should grow with the team and be a nice long term solution. Alexis Rios - I rank Rios in between Crawford/Baldelli. The guy is a very young player who can hit for average and do a lot of things well. The question is what is the asking price. If the Jays would accept one or two young pitchers plus a guy like Brian Anderson than I think the Sox should consider making the deal. However, the Jays should be able to get a very good player for Rios (again the Sox could also move another guy, such as Crede, to have the ability to get a guy like Rios).

He should be out there actively pursuing a guy like Xavier Nady. The Sox need another outfield bat (not only for this year but the next couple years) and thats even if Pods comes back and now is the time to make that move. It also would give the Sox a lot more insurance if they were to lose Dye at the end of the season to free agency.

QUOTE(danman31 @ May 20, 2007 -> 12:46 AM) Carter is hitting .387 with 17 extra base hits, 22 RBI, and 20 runs in 19 games in May. Good for a 1.272 OPS. I don't know if the Sox are just being careful as he's still working on something or what because the guy should be moved up and he's got a chance to really quickly become a known prospect in the baseball world (not just the Sox world). God can he hit the ball FAR.

Wow...Flash was dead on....28 weeks later was f***ing brilliant.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:50 PM) Ironic coming from me, but show a little patience. No changes will be made until Thome returns and we see him play for a month or so. If things are real bad, the trade deadline will be looming, and then you'll see changes.

QUOTE(greg775 @ May 19, 2007 -> 03:45 PM) I'll forever be grateful for the Series title. But I question our baseball people. Our talent evaluators think tall relievers who are wild are good. They are not. MacD and Sisco are not reliable. Logan is not ready for prime time. Massett ... my gawd tomorrow will be ugly. Thome should have been activated for this series if he's "ready." He doesn't need minor league at bats. I don't care if he wouldn't have played against the lefties. Our lineup sucks without him. He would have looked good in the lineup today. (yes I realize we gave up 11 runs). Need I remind people that these baseball people have led the team to numerous consecutive winning seasons (albeit only two of the recent seasons resulted in the playoffs, but it is still a tribute to the organization for consistently putting out winning/competitive baseball teams). ANd there were a couple teams that could have had rings and should have had at least made the playoffs.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ May 18, 2007 -> 09:06 PM) Day hasn't really done anything deserving to be considered as even a September call-up. His strikeouts are "sexy", but that's the only thing he has going for him. Aside from having the best slider in the org and I don't exaggerate when I say that.