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Fenway Park is #1 on the dump list. Never been to Tropicana but I'm sure thats pretty crappy too. Dodger stadium and the Twinkie dome would be the next on the list of stadiums I've attended that stink.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 10:07 PM) Shouldn't you be tracking down those kids and turning them into White Sox fans? What's wrong with you? Do you job!

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Well if you could find a quote it would be appreciated. I just know on real gm, bbb, etc... when skiles says anything it is talked about, and alot. Personally I think it should be different...when qwerty says something, it should be talked about. Qwerty...NBA insider and Bulls enthusiast. I like the sound of it. The man knows his basketball.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:59 PM) Going into the full stalker mode already are we. the only thing is, I don't know if he's planning on stalking me or LC

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) Guess not, care to explain why I've never seen you with one? Glad to hear from your earlier post that we can go on a sightseeing tour of Laguna Beach. Some points of interest for me: 1) The Surf Shop 2) LC's preschool 3) The field where jason played little league I'm sure to think of some others lol. Its because I own this website. Come out here and I can introduce you to some. I'm not quite the loser Heads makes me out to be

Plus, Gordon was turning it over (don't know the stats) but I'm guessing that may have been part of the reason he was out. Neither him nor Deng protected the ball well tonight. Deng took a lot of awful shots too.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:49 PM) It's exactly what he said. They asked him what Gordon has to do to become a starter, and Skiles said he doesn't think he'll ever be good enough to start for the Bulls. I got no problem with it, I still think it was Skiles trying to motivate, but either way, I don't see that as a flaw for Scott Skiles. I'm not trying to doubt the validity, but I swear this would have been mentioned in the trib or somewhere. From what I remember, Skiles loves pushing Gordon, but I've never seen him really say he couldn't be a starter. He keeps trying and I'm guessing it was more at this point he's not a starter for the Bulls but I think Skiles has pretty high expectations for the kid and I'm sure he was proving some sort of point but at the same time, I'm confident with Hinrich taking the shots.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:48 PM) Gordon is what he is.....an offensive machine off the bench who's not tall or strong enough to play defense. If you're not going to put him on the court when you're down 1 with the ball at the end of the game, you're not putting your team in the best possible position to succeed. Skiles has done nothing over his two plus seasons with the Bulls that make me want to 2nd guess him. When I don't see someone out there I assume that player is in the doghouse and that over the long run its for the benefit of the team (as well as proving a point and teaching a lesson) that that player isn't in there. Skiles is one of the better coaches in this league and I'm glad he's on our side.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) When I heard Skiles on the radio state that Gordon will never be good enough to start in the NBA (last week he said this), I just had to shake my head. I don't think thats exactly what he said, but I don't think Skiles expects him to be a starter, but he does think he'll be a good player. Skiles is doing everything he can to push Gordon and quite frankly if thats exactly what he said, I wouldn't disagree. He's a good player, but wouldn't make a good starter. Starting would take away from what makes him best and I don't think he's the type of guy that could play extensive minutes and continue to be the great scorer he is (plus he's horrific at everything else not named scoring).

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:44 PM) Gordon had 15 pts, as well as being 3-3 for 3 pt range. The Great Chris Duhon was 1-10 from the field tonight. Since Duhon was likely to not be able to drive and dish in that possession, you need to have Gordon on the court. Skiles was proving a point about something. He was frustrated with Gordon for most of the 2nd half (hence you saw Pargo getting a lot of minutes). Don't ask me why, I'm not the coach, but I had no problem with it. The play was drawed up for Hinrich and he missed and the Bulls had a couple 2nd chance opportunities but didn't succeed. Although I'd agree he probably should have been in for Duhon (who isn't a good shooter).

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) The Blazers knocked it out on that out of bounds with 1 second on the clock, pretty obvious. There is no saying the bulls would have scored. THey shouldn't have been in that position to begin with. They are the better team and need to take care of business. Its there own damn fault as far as I'm concerned.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) Half the players in the league don't play a lick of defense. I think Skiles is just a stubborn mofo. All the great coaches are. If you don't want to play defense get the hell out of here. Skiles and Paxson agree on this approach and they aren't going to tolerate players not willing to put in effort. I really respect that and its why, even if the team does regress a bit this year, I have no doubt it will be a very good and winning franchise in the future because of Skiles/Paxson and them not tolerating non team players and guys that aren't willing to hustle (thats almost all defense is, you don't have to be physically gifted to be a good defensive player). I still think this team will gel, but its not going to be with this starting unit. Noc will replace Songalia with Deng coming in, but eventually you'll probably see Sweetney starting. Problem is Sweetney isn't there physically yet, but the Bulls are working his ass back into shape.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) OH AND THE BULLS JUST GOT f***ED BY THE REFS SHOULD BE BULLS BALL f***ING COCK SUCKING DOUCHE BAG ASSCLOWN DONKEY f***ING s*** BURGERS The refs called a s***ty game, but this one is on the Bulls. I hate the way the refs call games (ie, calling tick tack crap) and its no secret the Bulls are a superior team when the refs let them play (ie when the refs let teams play defense), but they played like crap for 2 quarters (you could really argue 3, but for stretches of the 3rd they looked good and to be honest they looked pretty good in the 1st). Hell I could say they out played the Blazers 3 of 4 quarters, problem was they were so damn bad in the 2nd.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) How in the f*** do you not have Gordon in the game? Skiles really does hate Ben with a passion. Because Gordon was playing absolutely HORRID. In fact he gave up a wide open 3 because he had zero faith in his shot (or something) cause I almost never see him turn down an open shot (instead he threw the ball away trying to pass it to Noc).

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:23 PM) 4 Bulls players all went after Telfair. Not very good team defense. It was also a serious moving screen on Theo Ratlif who blocked up Hinrich, which created the opening for Telfair and Sweetney had to play help defense allowing Ratlif an open shot at the bucket for the put back. Overall I was at least happy in the 2nd half. The refs stopped blowing the whistle and let the two teams play it out. It was a joke of a loss for the Bulls, but thats what they get for playing like s*** for half of the game. That and they had Hinrich in foul trouble (he is there leader). Also, aside from a few decent things late in the game Deng played like garbage tonight. Oh and I take everything back about Gordon being improved defensievly, he was freaking terrible again. Its about the 3rd or 4th straight night where he's been a turnstyle on defense. Rough loss and its the type of game that makes me think this isn't a playoff team. That said, Skiles is a scrappy coach and he's going to get these guys playing better defensively and I think we found out what a monster Sweetney could be. God was he huge and man does he have low post moves. I think he is one of the 10 best low post scorers in the league (doesn't mean he's one of the 10 best low post players).

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) Eddy curry? LOLOLOL. Take my chances with sweetney thank you very much. Ya, I'm loving Sweetney. Baby Brand.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) Only one word comes to mind when describing Songaila's play of late...useless Noc should be starting at PF and I think he will be on Friday.

Duhon passes up a lot of open 3's just to throw them to Noc who then takes a 3. I'd rather have Duh taking those 3's. They are crashing the boards early though, still nothing falling.

Great utility guy.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Most high schools, at least the ones I've seen in my day, don't have girls near the caliber of what this show had. I mean Kristin is near a 10, LC is a solid 9, Jessica is a solid 9, the list goes on. I invite anyone to tell me they went to HS with girls like that (at least that many that were that hot). The other stuff, maybe, yes you find at other schools. Girls like that, hell no. You obviously didn't attend my high school. Maybe its just a Socal thing though, I've been surrounded by good looking girls my entire life.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) Somebody a bit angry? That doesn't begin to touch upon it. Every game I watch I sit there stunned at whats being whistled. I swear, the NBA needs to put in a new comissioner one that appreciates a defensive game. All you ever heard about was how ugly Detroit and San Antonio played, but that was basketball, damn good basketball. But we won't see that style again if the NBA has its way. Its just going to this street ball style of basketball, one in which there is zero defense and your not allowed to touch your defender at all. They will just always get bailed out by the whistle. Its disgusting and if there were any other sport on of interest to me I would just stop watching (this seasons officiating has been a joke).

They f***ing suck. On a sidenote (as if I need to continue this rant) there must have been 35 f***ing free throws in the 1st half. What a f***ING f***ING f***ING f***ING JOKE. GO TO HELL REFS 1st half ends on a 17-4 run. I hope Scott Skiles chokes his team. They are garbage, especially when it comes to low post defense.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:02 PM) Soxfan101... what you think about the officiating a couple weeks through now? F and thats too nice. It is a total joke. I only watch Bulls and Lakers games for the most part, but I've been watching a bit more basketball this year (outside of those two teams) and I'm sick of this piss poor crap.

They call everything tick tack, but when Duhon goes into the backcourt and grabs the ball, Miles comes in and grabs his arm away and than gets a fast break foul and free throws. JOKE I hate b****ing about refs, but this is f***ing garbage. The Golden State game was called s***ty (for both teams) in the sense that every touch foul is getting called. The NBA continues to do everything in there power to create these offensive juggernauts that they deem better for ratings, yet they are worse for basketball.

f*** the NBA. I'm sick of this tick tack bulls***. They are doing everything in there power to ruin basketball. Screw you commissioner stern. Let the teams play for cripes sake.