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The one where they do the spoof on the Ateam? I think its the new episode that has now led me to believe Family Guy is just as great as ever. I mean Brian going to college and the cripples husband hitting his crippled wife by running into her cart and the makeup sex. The episode had it all

Glad to see it was evened out

We all know a certain admin has to do everything he can to make his choice sound cooler.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 06:06 AM) Bingo. The summer in Arlington effect. 60 days of 90+ degree temps just saps that team every year. Look at their seasons, they ALWAYS fall apart in August and September. It will be interesting to see what Blalock would do in a moderate climate. Is Florida really that much more moderate. I mean its humid and hot there or thats what I always here. I've never been there, but I'm guessing its pretty miserable there during the summer as well.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 11:56 PM) Doesn't Boston still have David Wells under contract? Wells will be in San Diego via trade. Wells has asked for it, the Pads and Red Sox both are working on it and it will happen. It will be Dave Roberts and probably a prospect or something along those lines.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 07:54 AM) Yep, he gone...But I would think Rowand goes to Philly for Thome. Then Marte for Pierre. That's really the only sensible thing I see out of this cluster of rumors. Thats what I see happening as well.

Moving this to the trade winds forum

QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 11:58 PM) HEY JAS, Can I made Heads' sig for the bet when you win? Sure, but lets wait till I win the bet for sure

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 09:57 AM) These things are now on Ebay for upwards of $2,000+ That was the sole reason I was going to buy one. I never got around to doing it though and now I'm kicking myself. I did make a good deal when I sold my PS2 upon release way back when.

Or Adrian Beltre. Mediocre and than bam, had what I have dubbed as the greatest single season by a 3rd baseman ever (he was awesome offensively and defensively in a total pitchers park). Of course he came back to earth this year, but I expect big things out of him next year.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 07:27 PM) Yeah, what a crappy webmaster. The designer has limited skills as well. I mean what the hell is that whole 4sportspage thing

I still wanted GB to win this game. A GB win would have put the Bears in an awesome spot for the division. Minny has life (just look at there schedule).

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) BRAD JOHNSON BABY - UNDEFEATED(as a starter)!!! Oh, and to anybody in this thread for this week - atleast you're not a Bills or Phins fan. Rowand and I were wondering which was worse, getting absolutely destroyed by a good but not great team in San Diego, or getting shutout and losing by 22 to a bad but talented Cleveland team. I think by seasons end people will be calling San Diego a great team. Call it a hunch.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 05:57 PM) ESPN has an insider story about Garnett making harsh comments about McHale and could lead to a deal to NY or Detroit before 06! What would it take to get him in Chicago? Tyson and what else? Gordon? I may do that. I'd give up everything but Hinrich and Deng for Garnett. Yes I'd give up Gordon, Tim Thomas (for contractual purposes) and I'd try to hang onto Chandler (but I'd deal him or Sweetney or whoever else). I'd give up the farm to get a star like him. Put him with Hinrich, Duhon, Deng, Noc and whoever else is left and I'd be really happy. Of course I highly doubt the Bulls would match up, but I bet Garnett would like to come to Chicago.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:14 PM) Alford's teams always seem to peak in November by beating teams better than they are, so they victory for them tonight should come as no surprise. Alford usually gets off to hot starts before fading at the start of big 10 season (hopefully no Pierre Pierce incident will lead to good things this year). Plus this group really seemed to bond together last year down the stretch and while they didn't play great against Kentucky they played good enough to win. Defensively Iowa looked as good as I've seen from an Iowa team. They forced quite a few turnovers, got a lot of blocked shots, crashed the boards, and really forced Kentucky to hit outside shots (although there were breakdowns caused by Brando or whatever his name is). Offensively Iowa didn't look great. The thing that dissapointed me were some really sloppy turnovers by the veteran Horner. However, they survived despite a rare off night for both Haluska and Horner (two of the better shooters in the big 10) and Brunner played strong. They aren't incredibly deep but Henderson and Thomas looked good and the youngster Alex Thompson actually flashed some signs. Plus they got this new freshman PG who impressed the hell out of me. He is super fast and made some nice passes (stripped KU on the final posession too). Hansen made stupid fouls early and got in foul trouble, which is rough. He is a very good defensive big man but always gets stupid fouls on the perimeter. Still I enjoyed the game and it really was a good game to watch. Both teams played tough and wanted the game. They were diving and fighting for every lose ball. It was almost like a tourney game. Great fun and I'm glad the Hawks pulled it out. Can't wait to see the rematch against Texas (last year they beat Texas in the Hawaii one).

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) 3yrs $11M + $1.5M signing bonus + No-Trade clause + Incentives = Scott Eyre 3yrs $12M + $???M signing bonus + NTC??? + Incentives = Bobby Howry That's atleast $24.5M over the next 3 years to two 32+ year old ex-White Sox middle relievers who are comming off career years. They'd have been better off throwing 3 yr 8 or 9 mill per after one Billy Wagner.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 10:52 PM) Is he a butcher there? IIRC he did play there a decent amount of times when he was with the Cubs. I don't remember him looking too bad, but he had that nasty injury while he was over there as well. I think he can figure it out.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) And the Red Sox will be happy with this deal for the exact opposite reason as the Marlins -- the Red Sox want to win now, not 5 years from now. So if thats the case...the Red Sox and Marlins both get what they want...which would make it a fair trade. The Marlins get a huge contract off there books and get two good to great prospects.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 06:44 PM) Laughable? Compare Rowand's ZR, Rate 2, and Defensive Win Shares to Pierre's -- all are significantly better in Rowand's favor. Significantly. But of course, how can I argue with the ESPN Scouting Report? Wite -- I don't understand your comment about Milton Bradley. I've heard that he's one of the better outfielders (defensively) in baseball. His ZR is similar to Pierre's, and he rated well in Tango's Defensive Scouting Report. Jim -- pesky offense of last year? They were certainly pesky in the playoffs (moreso because of the HR than because of the SB), but in the regular season, they ranked 9th in runs scored. I think the plan should be to attempt to maintain your production from 1B/RF spot(Delgado? Thome? Giles? All three, if healthy -- I'd argue -- will produce better than Konerko will next year), while substantially improving the offense from your DH spot (a healthy Thomas? a healthy Durazo? something else?). I don't expect our offense to be great, at least not next year. There's not enough money to spread around to make it 'great'. But I think it can improve to 5th or 6th in the AL in runs scored, just with a move or two. Ideally, you can resign Konerko and get Thome, but I don't know if that's exactly reasonable, either... Bradley is a talented player but he is not a good defensive outfielder.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:22 PM) How many starting pitchers do they have now? Schilling, Clement, Beckett, Arroyo, Miller, Papelbon, Wakefield, Lester... Schilling has shown nothing to make me believe he'll be back. It will be interesting to see how he pitches early this year, but if he doesn't have his velocity and stuff back early in the season his career is over (sadly that playoff heroicy may have ended his career). Arroyo would likely slide to the pen and I think they would still be in the market for another starter. Clement, Beckett, two kids and Wakefield wouldn't exactly be a playoff rotation (considering I'm usually one to expect nothing from young pitchers in there 1st full seasons). However, if any team could get away with it, it would be one with an offense as potent as the Red Sox (especially if they keep Manny; Plus Renteria is far better than he played in 05 with Boston).

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) On Sportscenter they had a report from Peter Gammons and he stated the following: "So now, after having one of the oldest rotations, Boston can trot out Beckett, Jonathon Papelbon and John Lester for the next 6 years and compete with anyone in October." Am I the only one who thinks this is absolute bulls***? I understand that Papelbon and Lester are huge prospects and the Red Sox have high hopes for them but to say that for the next 6 years these two extremely unproven pitchers are going to dominate as absolute horses***. I understand that Gammons loves the Red Sox and all but god damn can he just show one instance of unbias reporting? Plus everyone knows not all good arms come to fruition and there is no reason to think all of them will pan out. That said Boston made a good deal. They can afford Lowell's contract and I'm of the belief Lowell will rebound next season and put up numbers like he did the previous two years. Beckett is definately a risk, but he hasn't had serious arm problems although blisters still nag and keep you from making the starts (and Ismael Valdes showed how they can pretty much follow you and ruin a career), so who knows if he'll ever get over them. Still the Red Sox gave up two totally unproven prospects for a gold glover and former all star 3rd baseman (arguably in his prime, although he is coming off a bad year) and one of the best arms in the NL (notice I say Arms). Good use of two prospects, imo.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) I understand that some people on this board (including Jason) love Bill Mueller. I am not one of those people, if we sign him to play everyday at 3B or 1B I will be pissed. If he is signed it tells me that the Sox are not comfortable with Joe's back. However, I don't really see this as a bad signing, if he signs on for the right price. He's a great insurance plan and could spell Crede at 3rd, but more importantly he could spell Iguchi at 2nd. I am semi worried about Iguchi really regressing. I don't know if he just wore out or if pitchers made an adjustment in the 2nd half of the season, but the later it went the worse he seemed to play. Of course Guchi is a smart hitter and he'll be much more comfortable this year (plus he'll have a full off-season of watching film and getting more familiar with the league) to the point that he may explode next year (.300/20/80). I don't mind having the depth of Mueller. Mueller is a solid defensive 3rd baseman who is a good slap hitter (and would make a very good 2 hole hitter if Crede or Guchi went down or struggled). Plus its a solid insurance plan if Konerko went down or if the Sox weren't able to find a DH (although I would cringe at the thought of Mueller starting at 1st, unless the Sox found some serious power for DH). Still I don't see him signing for 2 mill (which is about the most I could see the Sox paying a utility guy). Unless of course he just really wants to come to the Sox and feels he'd be a good contributor (or if there isn't the type of market I think there will be for him). He's a smart baseball player, nothing great, but he's smart and would be an asset off the bench, imo. As an everyday player I wouldn't have a problem, if it weren't for the fact that Crede really seems to have figured things out (or at least I think you could make a case for that, which means you could expect a breakout .280 25-30 80-90 year from him given the right circumstances) and quite frankly when your built on pitching you want to field the best defensive lineup you can (which is one of the reasons for the most part I'm utterly against dealing Rowand). I'd rather find a way to resign Paulie and land our DH without dealing Aaron.

I think the Sox would like to get Anderson 300-400 Ab's this year if they can. That way he'll be less of a rookie in 07, which means the Sox would be more comfortable having two younger players developing in the outfield (in fact they could have Anderson as a full time starter in 07, with Young now getting worked into the lineup slowly in 07 as a 4th outfielder). I still think its a question-mark that far in advance cause either could be dealt and personally I think this will be Pods final season on the southside (but thats just a matter of opinion). Regardless, Young has a great work ethic and seems to be a pretty good learner. He has been working hard the past couple years when it comes to laying off the breaking ball and has been getting better at it each and every year. I'd be more worried about him if he didn't have a good eye, but he seems to have that going for him (he was drawing more and more walks as the season went on). He'll never not be a strikeout hitter, but if he can adjust enough to breaking pitches he'll be able to do great things at the major league level. Defensively he's the best CF the Sox have too. Anderson would probably shift to RF, although Young could technically be one hell of a Lfer, although he doesn't have the arm for RF. His arm is a lot better than most, but it definately wouldn't be a plus RF arm, it would be a plus LF arm and a good CFer arm. The key will be how the rest of the team is. If the rest of the team is good enough and they aren't developing any other players (uribe and Crede should be at that stage guys ready to take the next step) which means Anderson and Young could replace them in the develop as you go roll so you could afford to live with the rookie mistakes, especially since both have the talent to make big plays. This develop one or two rookies at a time philosphy is one that has been used by the Braves for a long time and its really worked well. I hope the Sox will be able to do it (it keeps pressure off rookies while allowing one or two a year to develop which means your team stays young and can be sucessful for a long period of time).

I'm not concerned. I sold my ps2 this week on ebay and my Xbox will be kept till January or February. Once the new baseball game from EA comes out I'll be picking up a 360 and going with that.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) Go walk into a cornfield or something. Your just jealous because the Iowa......uuum, wait, what pro football team does Iowa have? Oh yes, they have the Iowa Barnstormers in the Arena League.... He has interests, we have ours. I hate watching a lot of good teams just because I have little interest in them. I'd rather watch the Bears play some loser (even if the Bears are a loser too) than watch two great teams play usually.