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QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) OH AND THE BULLS JUST GOT f***ED BY THE REFS SHOULD BE BULLS BALL f***ING COCK SUCKING DOUCHE BAG ASSCLOWN DONKEY f***ING s*** BURGERS The refs called a s***ty game, but this one is on the Bulls. I hate the way the refs call games (ie, calling tick tack crap) and its no secret the Bulls are a superior team when the refs let them play (ie when the refs let teams play defense), but they played like crap for 2 quarters (you could really argue 3, but for stretches of the 3rd they looked good and to be honest they looked pretty good in the 1st). Hell I could say they out played the Blazers 3 of 4 quarters, problem was they were so damn bad in the 2nd.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) How in the f*** do you not have Gordon in the game? Skiles really does hate Ben with a passion. Because Gordon was playing absolutely HORRID. In fact he gave up a wide open 3 because he had zero faith in his shot (or something) cause I almost never see him turn down an open shot (instead he threw the ball away trying to pass it to Noc).

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:23 PM) 4 Bulls players all went after Telfair. Not very good team defense. It was also a serious moving screen on Theo Ratlif who blocked up Hinrich, which created the opening for Telfair and Sweetney had to play help defense allowing Ratlif an open shot at the bucket for the put back. Overall I was at least happy in the 2nd half. The refs stopped blowing the whistle and let the two teams play it out. It was a joke of a loss for the Bulls, but thats what they get for playing like s*** for half of the game. That and they had Hinrich in foul trouble (he is there leader). Also, aside from a few decent things late in the game Deng played like garbage tonight. Oh and I take everything back about Gordon being improved defensievly, he was freaking terrible again. Its about the 3rd or 4th straight night where he's been a turnstyle on defense. Rough loss and its the type of game that makes me think this isn't a playoff team. That said, Skiles is a scrappy coach and he's going to get these guys playing better defensively and I think we found out what a monster Sweetney could be. God was he huge and man does he have low post moves. I think he is one of the 10 best low post scorers in the league (doesn't mean he's one of the 10 best low post players).

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) Eddy curry? LOLOLOL. Take my chances with sweetney thank you very much. Ya, I'm loving Sweetney. Baby Brand.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) Only one word comes to mind when describing Songaila's play of late...useless Noc should be starting at PF and I think he will be on Friday.

Duhon passes up a lot of open 3's just to throw them to Noc who then takes a 3. I'd rather have Duh taking those 3's. They are crashing the boards early though, still nothing falling.

Great utility guy.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Most high schools, at least the ones I've seen in my day, don't have girls near the caliber of what this show had. I mean Kristin is near a 10, LC is a solid 9, Jessica is a solid 9, the list goes on. I invite anyone to tell me they went to HS with girls like that (at least that many that were that hot). The other stuff, maybe, yes you find at other schools. Girls like that, hell no. You obviously didn't attend my high school. Maybe its just a Socal thing though, I've been surrounded by good looking girls my entire life.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:11 PM) Somebody a bit angry? That doesn't begin to touch upon it. Every game I watch I sit there stunned at whats being whistled. I swear, the NBA needs to put in a new comissioner one that appreciates a defensive game. All you ever heard about was how ugly Detroit and San Antonio played, but that was basketball, damn good basketball. But we won't see that style again if the NBA has its way. Its just going to this street ball style of basketball, one in which there is zero defense and your not allowed to touch your defender at all. They will just always get bailed out by the whistle. Its disgusting and if there were any other sport on of interest to me I would just stop watching (this seasons officiating has been a joke).

They f***ing suck. On a sidenote (as if I need to continue this rant) there must have been 35 f***ing free throws in the 1st half. What a f***ING f***ING f***ING f***ING JOKE. GO TO HELL REFS 1st half ends on a 17-4 run. I hope Scott Skiles chokes his team. They are garbage, especially when it comes to low post defense.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 08:02 PM) Soxfan101... what you think about the officiating a couple weeks through now? F and thats too nice. It is a total joke. I only watch Bulls and Lakers games for the most part, but I've been watching a bit more basketball this year (outside of those two teams) and I'm sick of this piss poor crap.

They call everything tick tack, but when Duhon goes into the backcourt and grabs the ball, Miles comes in and grabs his arm away and than gets a fast break foul and free throws. JOKE I hate b****ing about refs, but this is f***ing garbage. The Golden State game was called s***ty (for both teams) in the sense that every touch foul is getting called. The NBA continues to do everything in there power to create these offensive juggernauts that they deem better for ratings, yet they are worse for basketball.

f*** the NBA. I'm sick of this tick tack bulls***. They are doing everything in there power to ruin basketball. Screw you commissioner stern. Let the teams play for cripes sake.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) Peja would easily be our best shooter/scorer ( sorry gordon fans). While he defense is not great he can play solid enough defense against small fowards. Once he gets matched up against power forwards he is f***ed. I agree with that, I just tend to think the wing/guard positions are a strenght of the Bulls. That said I realize Peja would be the Bulls best player (I guess Hinrich could be a better player by this time next year). However, I hate not playing Deng because I think he has the ability to be a very good all around player. I'm of the thought that Gordon will not develop into more than a 6th man (and the best 6th man ever to say the least). Its not a knock, I just think he's such a good scorer that teams will utilize him later in the game and work him in early on and give him short quick bursts of minutes where he can focus all his energy into scoring. That said, he is one of the few players in this league that if he could figure everything together, he could turn into an AI type player (although I highly doubt he'll ever be that good).

Well that or they could get a good pick from the Knicks and turn that into a solid low post player.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:40 PM) The thing is they might have to shell out a big contract I mean look at what guys like Foyle get. Hell even Gadzuric got paid. I wonder if they could get something for a package starting with Tim Thomas' expiring contract. I'd think it would have some value, especially if the Bulls could find a low post guy that they saw potential in (that was paid well already, maybe too well) but that the Bulls thought they could turn into something. Than again that could be a waste of what would be FA cap room this off-season. I'm just not convinced that too many of these guys are going to hit the FA market. Obviously Peja would, but I still don't know how much better that makes the Bulls.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) I like Nazr and Przy, and Nene depending on his health status. Big men that score in the post don't grow on trees. No they don't, but the Bulls shouldn't just give out a big contract to someone, they need to find one that fits and, imo, while all of those guys are solid, none of them will fill the scoring need from the low post.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) I am not qwerty but... Ben Wallace Peja - not a post guy, still could be coveted by Bulls Nene Przybilla Wilcox Drew Gooden Radman Nazr Lorenzen Wright So your telling me there is nobody out there. I guess Wilcox wouldn't be too bad and Gooden has good low post moves (But he's not much of a defensive player), but aside form those two none of them can do anything in the post as far as I'm concerned. Meaning the Bulls best option may be via trade.

What crap, that should have been a back court violation. Instead Portland gets a 3.

Qwerty, any ideas for some low post guys that could be out there (either via trade or FA). I'm curious already and you are the "Chisoxfn" proclaimed Bball expert.

Jarret Jack is looking good. That blocking call on Deng's drive is a makeup call for what should of been goaltending.

3 3's in the quarter for the Bulls. Noc shot looking better as of late. Any shot at all at acquiring Zach Randolph. He's an Eddy Curry like presence and kind of has an Eddy Curry like attitude (thats not a good thing) but I have no idea if the Blazers would move him.

Bulls guards are biting for the pump fakes from the guards early on. Still they are looking a lot more crisp, but they are too much of a jump shooting team. You can't be a consistently good team when you rely on the jump shot (at least no with the crop of scorers the Bulls have). Songalia needs to be out of that starting lineup with a low post presence that can score. I'd find another guy to get minutes with Sweetney and Chandler.

Same starting lineup, but the Bulls are looking a lot better early. It may just be that Portland looks terrible. At least thus far. Still one serious problem, the Bulls vastly need a low post presence that can score. Sweetney can but he's not on the court enough. Paxson is going to have to find one.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 06:37 PM) I hope he's not as healthy as Duque was before this season, if you know what I mean. Technically speaking this was the healthiest Duque has been in a long time.