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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 02:06 PM) Qwerty, I'm not even worrying about their arms. I doubt either of their arms are very good -- Rowand has a strong arm, just no accuracy (like you said, he's killed a lot of worms this year, winding up and throwing the ball right into the ground). But it seems like people are thinking that because Pierre is faster, he's going to get to more balls. That isn't true. I can't find a defensive stat that puts Pierre as the better defender. Rowand leads in ZR (.939 to .882), Rate 2 (106 to 97), defensive Win Shares (7.6 to 2.9 -- that's a huge lead). I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'd put money on Rowand having a better UZR (which assigns a run value to defense, ala +5, -10) than Pierre, too. I wouldn't do Rowand for Pierre straight up, much less Rowand and Marte for Pierre. That second trade is awful. I'll take Podsednik and his salary that's barely over $1 million, along with the fact that he'll be playing left field, over Pierre at a much inflated salary, and average defense. If the Sox dealt Rowand for Pierre, either it would have to be part of a larger package getting the Sox Delgado or someone else they want or it would have to be a Marte and maybe a prospect (I don't know if I'd even give up a prospect) for Pierre. Than you use Rowand in another trade (say a Jim Thome deal) as a centerpiece. Of course the Sox could be crazy and use Pierre or Pods as there DH and keep Rowand in CF. Hey, you never know.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Sure it would. You'd be replacing Rowand with Pierre. Pierre is worse (I'm not sure how much worse, but it's fairly substantial) defensively than Rowand is. So, you're losing runs on defense. And, I don't see a whole lot of offense improvement from Pierre... He might have the edge, but I think he's giving it right back 'cause he isn't anywhere near the defender that Rowand is. But hey -- we'll have some more stolen bases. So that's good. Beck, you go ahead and find me a statistic that shows Pierre being a better defender than Rowand. Please, do so. Name six better defensive centerfielders. Hey Keith, I think he was saying that if they made this trade these would be assumptions the Sox made because Ozzie feels this way. I don't think he said Pierre is better than Rowand.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:41 PM) Scouts say he his arm doesnt exist? Who cant make a deep catch playing 380 plus feet back? Lol, Rowand's arm wasn't accurate, but for a long time he had a "plus" arm when he was down in the minors and arm strenght wise his arm is still above average in CF. Oh and he is easily one of the 6 best CF'ers in the game. Ask anyone in baseball and they'll tell you that and yes, I do know people in the baseball world.

QUOTE(Soxpranos @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 01:17 PM) And Rowand is? Rowand has much more flaws than Pierre. Like No offense, strikes out 2 times as much as Pierre, cant make the routinecatch on bloops over 2nd base that have fallen for (last time I counted over 50 hits) Hits. No threat on the Pads when he actually gets on. Cant bunt for crap, just that reason alone is worth trading Rowand. How many times he couldnt get a simple bunt down is just ridiculous. We get your hatred of Rowand. Just ask scouts about Rowands defense. They'll tell you he's one of the best in the biz.

Game Over. OSU is a Michigan State win away from the Big 10 title.

Touchdown Buckeyes. 25-21. Michigan is gonna have to pull one hell of a comeback. 24 seconds left.

Looking bad for Michigan. OSU is on about the 3 with 29 seconds to go down by 2. A field goal or TD will win it for OSU.

Wow, Risky 4th down attempt by ND and they get it. They are starting to get lose. 14-3 and they have the ball, looking for one more score to close out the half.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) Why do we need a quote from Nicholls State's coach. It's Nicholls State. First off, he's not better than Scott May. May scored 26 in the national title game on the last team to go undefeated in college basketball. Killingsworth will be lucky if he ever plays in a Final Four, considering this is his last chance. He might be pretty good, who knows, I haven't seen him that much. I just wouldn't go wild over him after one game against Nicholls State. And if he was All-Sec or whatever at Auburn, that doesn't matter much to me given SEC's tendency to get beat like a drum the past few years in the NCAA tournament. Most overrated conference year in and year out in the land. Only team that consistently ever does anything in the tourney is Kentucky and they even had their embarassing moments (UAB two years ago). I'm gonna get a little wager going with greasy on whether or not he can outperform Davis when they play MSU. I'll take Davis over him as of right now as the best big man in the B10. Also I have Augustine second as of right now. *Cough* Greg Brunner *cough* (well power forward )

Awesome, awesome freaking Song. I loved "old school" Weezer.

I could see the Sox trading Pierre and trying to lock him up at to a favorable contract (and fair one) knowing that he's probably a more long term option at the top of the order than Pods.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:36 PM) Both are mediocre. I think Hanley Ramirez is overrated as well as Anibal Sanchez. I would say it's slightly better unless the Marlins could get either pitching prospect from Texas. Its something I give the Yanks and Red Sox credit for. There prospects end up getting talked up in the media a lot and they use it to help drive up there prospects value in trades. People here there names and most good baseball fans will be familiar with them and since they've heard there names in the past so often they just assume they are awesome prospects. That said both have the ability and I don't think they are much of a case of being overhyped (for once). Hell, Borchard was the last Sox prospect to get overhyped by the media and had the Sox pulled a trigger on a deal using him they would have been able to great value thanks to that hypage (he also had all the tools though).

The Ducks shouldn't be one of those teams. I don't know if you have them listed as one of those 6, but they aren't that good, imo. I've been to a couple games and they are a pretty sloppy team. That said they have some good chemistry and Giggy has been playing well when he's been healthy.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) UK is way overrated. Hopefully they get exposed. I hope my Hawks can get passed them. Iowa and UK is becoming a semi rivalry it seems. I think the two teams have met up in big games quite often. In fact, IIRC, Kentucky has knocked out my Hawkeyes out of the tourney the past few times (not this past year though).

ND gets on the board, after moving the ball on most of there drives and coming up empty. 7-3 IRISH.

ND is looking sloppy early on. Its scoreless with 4 to go in the 1st.

I don't know in regards to Lester. He has a power arm but I don't know if he'll make a good starter or not. I do think he has the ability to be a very good closer in time.

Plus Alex, your gonna in shock. If I continue working on the piece I am right now, it will be done and up on FutureSox. Its a writeup talking about the AFL.

If Fizer never got hurt I'd of been right. The guy was a good scorer. Plus I love putting myself on the line and making predictions. Oh, I'm in a great mood, I get 10 days with no school

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Nov 19, 2005 -> 11:44 AM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2229919 Right now, the two teams hottest on Beckett are Texas and Boston. The Rangers would deal third baseman Hank Blalock, but thus far have balked at dealing either of their two prize pitchers, John Danks or Thomas Diamond. From the Red Sox, the Marlins want shortstop Hanley Ramirez and a young pitcher, either Jon Lester or Anibel Sanchez. *** well im excited. If I were the BoSox I'd make either of those trades. Lester has a good arm and Sanchez is pretty highly toubted and we've all heard plenty about Hanley (I assume him and the Greek God will be fighting in spring for 3rd) but to give up those two for a young pitcher like Beckett is a no brainer, imo. The Red Sox have money, yet they'd be getting an affordable pitcher who will be in there control for a couple more years. Of course Beckett does have injury issues and part of me never thinks he'll get over them.

I take that back, they just switched off the Va-Tech Virginia game and the OSU-Michigan game is on (I'll get to see the 2nd half while switching from the ND game).

On a sidenote, its totally lame. The Michigan OSU game isn't even televised out here.

I think Iowa has assured themselves a good bowl bid. We all know they are one of the best travelling teams in the country.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 05:12 PM) Really.. I don't think it had much to do with them at all. From what I have heard Comcast will pick up as many games as they did last year. Thats what I assumed. Its not like the Hawks are playing when the spring training games are on. Those games weren't competing with anything and I'm sure you'll see most of the games televised on Comcast again this year. Unless Hawk and DJ don't want to broadcast that many games.

I think Sexson or Beltre would be more likely to be dealt and I doubt either of them are traded.