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He still is coming back from an injury that knocked him out a month.

And 3 times the stuff. You can't even compare the electricness and the crispness of each others pitches. And that isn't a knock on Lopez. Lopez has good stuff - not great, or elite, good. Cease has elite stuff (but a slight frame that will likely always hinder his true-up side as that frame will have to impact his ability to go deeper into games). Cease has to develop at the major league level - but his stuff maintains throughout the game.

I tend to agree - my hope is they have a plan in place for what he's going to work on and than we'll see him back in a couple weeks. He has the stuff, just needs to get everything figured out ultimately.

You know they are about to announce he has signed an extension - or at least that is the widely ranging view. I could be wrong - but I'll just assume your post will be followed with a press conference where Pace announces the extension.

Except for Moncada. Which is what I think Yerm is asking, did Moncada specifically come out and say it. Otherwise - to your point Mike, anything we have is pure speculation.

Does anyone remember 2005 - where the Sox only deadline move was Geoff Blum (one of the most unlikely of world series heroes). Could Dyson be Blum and have a key moment as a pinch runner and be just enough?

Why can’t I have both. And what do I care if it takes Kopech until 2022 to be a stud. That is still worth it’s weight in gold. There is zero reason to be crazy urgent this season unless there is a stellar deal to be made (meaning well below market pricing).

He will work his way back in the minors - but that is okay and will get a service year back. He will be working out etc and should be in fine shape. Why wouldn’t we want a talent like that to help support this young team filled with elite talent. Did I mention he has better stuff than anyone on the club - and it isn’t even close either.

And the first round is a 3 game series - no matter what the risk of the best team losing is just high in this COVID postseason.

I agree with you that Hader could get Vaughn - but I’m not making that trade. Period. I’m not desperate - this team is very good and it’s got a chance to have an elite run. Now if Brewers will take guys out of our top 3 - we can talk - but they won’t.

Exactly - we actually have great players and we developed them. And guess what - we got more cost controlled great players on the way. Don’t trade it away. Kopech, Dunning, Vaughn - just day no.

I just don’t think this is the year to put your chips all in. This feels like the year to ride or die with your current squad and let’s see how the cards play out. Short format etc - luck will be increased vs a normal season so let’s just see how it plays out and have fun! I can than get even more excited about next year when they add a big fa splash plus get a full season of kopech and Dunning having a normal off season and Cease a year older. Plus Vaughn up and Robert more adjusted - Yeah I love this team!

Yes - he has always worked out etc. His stuff is special and training camp reports during spring training indicated he was strong and ready to role. I’m not worried at all. Only thing that worries me with him is his mental state. But do you remember when Greinke was with Royals and almost quit baseball for golf or something. He eventually got his head on straight and is in midst of a hall of fame career. Kopech is that kind of talent - Hall of Fame. Will he reach that potential - probably not - it you don’t trade those type of guys in this era - you just don’t. I get it if this looked like a last hurrah with a vet team but I love this squads roster and I’ll bet on the long. If it were a normal season with longer playoffs - maybe I would be more aggressive.

This - it would be perceived worse than the white flag trade. No chance Sox get him. Unless Cleveland thinks the dude is a total cancer haha.

I just don’t see why you trade kopeck - not unless you are getting a cost controlled stud. Kopech may bust but you just don’t trade guys with that kind of stuff. Those are the rare type of ponies that if you can get and they get close to reaching their potential you just smile as they can carry you straight through the post season. Their literally isn’t a pitcher in the org with Kopechs upside and you can probably count on one the number of pitching prospects in the game with his upside. Yes - it has been a couple years since we saw him pitch but they still have a ton of cost controlled years on the guy. Please Hahn - don’t panic and pull a Padres here. Especially not when first round of playoff is a best of 3. Let’s let it ride largely with guys we have. If you want to make a small deal for good value fine. Now if it is Collins, heurer, and Lopez for a stud fine. Or swap in Burdi I suppose. And I think Burdi has stud reliever potential if he can get his command down.

Don’t let it be any of our young arms involved with exception of Lopez. Lopez and Collins - fine by me. I’m not dealing Dunning or Kopech - Sox can’t pay for real pitching so they need extra waves of arms, especially since Gio will probably walk in a few years.

If they don't go with Nate - Udoka would be my next best candidate. Griffin would have been my top guy - but no way Im' touching him with all of the reports out there. No idea if there is truth to the story or if his ex-wife is crazy but either way not worth the risk for the Bulls.

In this case - isn’t this even more reason not to give up prospects now. And I tend to agree - next year would be the year to buy a free agent or two while the market is undervalued and while Sox still have a ton of pre arb guys. I would rather give Bauer a big short term deal that he wants and still have all my prospects to add depth / longer term upside.

It depends on what Sox thing of Vaughn’s ability to shift positions - but right field definitely would look like a gap. Not sure though that I would put big money over there - not with the quality Sox have all over the diamond. I think you probably just platoon RF as best as possible or look for undervalued vets in offseason. And I’m not quite ready to say rotation is issue. The top three have been really good. You than have Lopez, Dunning and Kopech - two of which have top 3 rotation upside, once ace upside. All cost controlled - which is important given where Gio is. Plus our top pick has a live arm - albeit still raw. this year - rotation definitely an issue. Lynn would be good - Collins and a pitching prospect not named Dunning or Kopech is something I could get my arms around. I just thing there is too much crazy risk this year to give up farm or top guys (ie player gets COVID and down for two plus weeks when it matters most). Or whole team goes down and now we are playing a Schaumburg squad in the post season.

I actually am fine with trading prospects - I would just rather wait another year and see how the talent continues to develop and than better know where the gaps are to target. I’m not in a rush if I am Hahn. This team took a decade to get here and while I get that it increases urgency for some, I’m on the other end where I say get rodon and bummer back and let’s keep riding this wave. Now if there is a legit deal for a top of the rotation cost controlled guy like Degromm or even this Brewer package - heck yeah. I am more in the camp that I’m not trading Kopech for Lynn.

A nothing burger is exactly what I want. We have a great team that might be good for a long long time. We also know Sox aren’t going to reinforce this club with massive free agents so let’s make sure we have second waves of talent who can help over time while also extending the window. Big market team - fine swing away for the big one, you can always buy a free agent to make up for what you messed up on. Sox don’t have that luxury - make sure you keep the big chips and lets actually have a ten year run with like seven or eight division titles and hopefully one or two World Series championships.

Nate McMillan is a pretty darn good regular season coach. He hasn't had a lot of success in the playoffs - but I don't know if that is him or the fact that in the playoffs talent matters more/ McMillan's ability to literally get the most out of his roster year in / year out is pretty evident (and he's done it for multiple organizations - which I think is a testament to him being a very good coach). The problem is - he has never really had much firepower, which in the postseason, you ultimately need. That said - Bulls haven't historically gone for vet coaches.

I don't trade Kopech for Lynn. Not for a one month and a one year deal. No way no how. Kopech has high risk, but his upside is still so much greater (cost controlled front line starter - that is literally the difference between a regular player contender and a world series contender). Especially for a team like the Sox that can't just go out and buy that ace. The exception would be DeGrom. And I like Lynn - I'm just not trading any of our elite level prospects for him. And I'm generally someone who is open to trading prospects.

Not sure I jump there - it does have a potentially significant impact on LT interest rates (LOW for REAL LONG NOW). Not sure that I'm going to jump to your conclusions - but wasn't certain how you were fundamentally thinking of it, because maybe there is an angle I'm missing. I also don't know what "massive" inflation you are referring to between 2010-2020. I think we saw about an average of 1.64% annual inflation between 2010-2020, so I think what they are saying is, they are okay seeing a bit more elevated inflation over the next few years (if it happens) given the low inflation we saw more recently. And more than anything - I think Powell is recognizing we are stuck in this more stagnant cycle and maybe our historical measures and means aren't the right way to think of things going forward. It will be curious as more info comes out and more analysis is done to kind of better frame up some of the near term / longer-term impacts.

What are you talking about? The new shift in the fed policy? Just curious what & how you are interpreting this.