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I think Paulie has the temperment to be a good manager and I would be very intrigued with this. If TLR is coming - there is no doubt in my mind he's being paired with a younger coach who we think has mgr upside (maybe a heavy analytics guy - but one who TLR obviously aligns with cause I don't see TLR taking a job and not having his say on staff, etc).

LaRussa spent a few seasons for the Red Sox, who I believe are an analytically driven organization and Angels had moved that way, especially post Scioscia where he had been. This all goes back to my original point - people are assuming things based upon one or two quotes or the fact that he is old. Now I have no idea how involved or not involved he has been in the game of baseball, but if Tony has been plugged in and kept up with things, I don't see how this is as terrible of a decision as most here think it is.

100% true - if Larussa is in, and they take the approach to groom his heir apparent, it won't be someone who is an experienced manager.

He also did that odd thing where he switched where his pitcher hit from time to time (IIRC).

I think if you are hiring Larussa you are doing it for a few years while he grooms a more junior individual for the final role. Whether that is Jirechelle or however you spell it, I don't know, but it is certainly an option.

All of the above are valid points - like I said - i have no idea how much he has been following the game and the energy he has. Pete Carrol is 69 and has more energy than most 45 year olds (for example). My broader assumption is this is JR having a sanctioned and approved conversation with a trusted advisor. I just think there could be far worse people the organization chats with as part of this process than a guy with 3 world series rings whose known as one of very best managers of all time. A lot of people want Bruce Bochy - but I don't know if Bochy is a huge data guy either (maybe he is and I just don't know it).

But it seems like age bias to just ignore LaRussa and everything he did. The guy was elite at his craft through 3 decades - you don't do that by not adapting to change. I'm not saying Larussa is my guy, but I don't know that I'd go as far as saying he's an awful candidate. He's won 3 world series and was part of leading one of the winningest organizations in baseball since he got there in the mid 90's (Cardinals). Now if he's completely removed from the game of baseball - that is a whole nother thing. I have no idea - but I don't see why you wouldn't have a conversation with him about the job and what he sees, thinks, etc.

Can I ask - why do people not want Larussa? Because he is old or is there something out? He is one of the greatest managers of all time.

What if the Dodgers decide to move on from Dave Roberts? Not saying they would and their current series isn’t over (down 2-0) but I wonder at what point Dodgers look for a fresh voice in dugout regardless of how good Roberts is.

So definitely not the Bears!

Is he going to end up back with the Steelers or someone else going to grab him? I know Bears could use a RB - but I don't imagine they will look at him.

When he used to respond - what was his response? I'm curious whether Jerry truly responded or if one of his handlers did.

Yep - Fleming back.

Billy Donovan is reportedly calling assistant coaches and letting him know that he's starting his bench from scratch. Sounds like at least Rogers, Loenser, and Cooper are out.

....who knows when the season will actually start

Awesome & full of class.

Lots of great childhood memories watching Morgan do Sunday Night Baseball. RIP

I agree - I think Scioscia goes to a team in rebuild mode vs. a team like the Sox and even than I don't know whether Mike is interested in managing anymore. Part of it may just be because he had a long run calling the shots and in the new era that flexibility rarely exists. I imagine they are going to move pretty swiftly in hiring a replacement.

This could push him down a path of being a Josh Hader type. Which - if that helps the Sox get a few world series rings - I'm okay with it.

They didn't see eye to eye - I don't know that Mike didn't leverage analytics, he just didn't want to be told by the front office and the GM about what he needed to do with them. I think it was broader than just Mike not accepting analytics. That said - he certainly has a much heavier lean towards being a pure baseball guy vs. a pure analytics guy. His run with the Angels ended badly, but the Angels have struggled for a while under Arte Moreno and Mike was never calling the shots when it came to the guys they signed to big money FA contracts. Very rarely did anyone ever look at a Scioscia managed team and think that the team underachieved. He is an interesting name, but I doubt he'll get his next change with this Sox squad. I think Mike would be a more likely fit with the Tigers or somewhere else and that is if he even wants to get back into it. Would be a guy worth chatting with though - after as long of a run managing as he had, it would be interesting to see the perspectives he's gained from a few years being out of the game.

Helpful context - thank you; I was going to say - I would love Ricky as a bench coach - just don't think I could see him doing it right now (a year after being removed). I don't mind him being involved in the organization though - I think he's a great human being and a good baseball guy. He also isn't a bad manager, but he's not a great manager either.

If you really think about it - both Bulls organization and Sox organization are operating in entirely new frontiers at the moment. Bulls with fully rebuilt front office (including an expensive head coach hire) and now Sox blowing up the MGR and likely looking at hiring an outsider with experience. The big caveat is I don't know if Hinch/Cora will command top dollar or not (due to the scandal they were previously involved in). I still presume they do - especially Cora who I presume the Red Sox are going to make an aggressive play to get back.

What does that mean? That mean he could stay on? Clearly not as a bench coach, I can't imagine that happening.

Batting Robert, the inability to actually rest the bullpen over final week of season (it was so bad - it was like they were trying to win every game by using their horses too much but in odd situations) and more importantly or just as importantly the mismanagement of Yoan Moncada.

If he was available - I guarantee that is who the Sox would hire. I can't imagine that happens unless Cleveland decides he wants to ink Sandy long term. Girardi, Hinch, Francona, Cora. Two of those guys aren't available - but I think it would be any of those 4 guys in general.