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QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) I'm fine packaging if it means Moncada and Benitendi together. If I am Hahn, I am not trading Sale without getting those two plus some. Case closed and if it was the off-season I'd want one of Betts / Bradley plus one of Moncada / Benitendi and their best pitching prospect. Now some of you may say I am delusional, but that is what it would take if I were the GM.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) So Cameron says a Benintendi/Devers/1 lower level guy (or Moncada/Kopech instead for the first two), Urias/Verdugo (or Bellinger instead of Verdugo)/2 lower level guys or Gallo/Brinson/Ortiz/1 lower level guy should be enough for the Sox to want to move Sale. If Sale was traded for any of those packages, would anyone here be happy with those trades? I think they are all crap.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 11:19 AM) David Robertson, if traded, could get a decent haul on his own. If packaged with Sale or Q, Sox could become a top 10 farm system overnight. https://twitter.com/RobHart1980/status/759086422188064769 I largely prefer not packaging, especially in the case of Sale. I think we actually lose out in a "package" deal. On the flip side, I'd be open to it with Q and Robertson for example.

I suspect it will be the Nats or Red Sox that get Robertson.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) <!--quoteo(post=3407700:date=Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:44 PM:name=Chisoxfn)-->QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) <!--quotec-->I actually like Newt a lot (his policies, etc). This is why I posted that. Yeah...I really don't have a problem with what he said. I get your point, but he technically was speaking facts himself. When he gets into the theory bit vs. feelings, well, hey, feelings do matter. Like I said, I would vote for Newt because in general, I feel he aligns with my policy views. I'm a Newt lover though (legitimately, I think he is one of the greatest politicians of the past 30 years). Key word being I. I don't think that clip was necessarily his finest moment as a whole, though, but again, we live in a society where the cool thing to do is take a 1 minute frame of a guy who has been in politics forever and hold it against him. PS: I think a lot of people should realize that Greg isn't that much different than a lot of the American voting public.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 01:57 PM) I actually like Newt a lot (his policies, etc).

I am so happy that he is just sick (don't want him sick) but in the grand scheme way better then where I went when I see carted off.

All of this is postering. Dom tells Gammons who he can't offer to try and make it appear when he offers a couple of those guys he is making a really "strong" offer. Everything and anything done is postering this time of year.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) I still love Gammons just for the fact that he always confesses his LOVE for Carson Fullmer. He absolutely loves everything about the kid. I love Gammons and Kurjikian. They seem like good dudes who love absolutely everything about the game of baseball and who love everything that they do.

Jeremy, I am so so sorry. I can't even comprehend what you, your wife, family, and Josiah are going through, just know that we are all here for you and if there is anything at all I can do, please don't hesitate to ask.

Knightni's (Jeremy) son was delivered 14 weeks early on July 1st of this year. His son has been in the NICU lab since he was born and has been battling various medical issues and infections related to being born prematurely. Yesterday, their son was airlifted to a children's hospital in Indianapolis to see a special surgeon to see if they can help with stomach and intestinal issues their son is having and this afternoon, their son will be undergoing exploratory surgery. Jeremy, I want you to know that all of Soxtalk is thinking of little Josiah and your family and that you are all in our prayers and we are here for you. Please send positive thoughts, prayers, and happy wishes Josiah's way!!! If you would like to help financially, Jeremy has established a gofundme page to help assist with their sons medical costs, many of which will not be covered by insurance.

While I think he is making a stink out of nothing, I understand his stance from the perspective, he thinks he will play worse with the equipment the Sox are providing.

What is this about Hahn at Harvard law?

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:14 AM) This is a good post. Yes it is and it is also why I'm trading Sale before I trade Q because the reality is teams are going to give up a hell of a lot more for Sale than they will Q, imo.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 08:29 AM) It's such that Betts, Moancada, Benintendi and Swihart for Sale/Robertson no longer seems crazy. I'd make that trade but I don't know that Boston would (at least in-season).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 07:06 AM) Quintana just doesn't get the same respect around the league. Not even close. I don't know if it is because he doesn't have the same raw stuff or what, but he is never thought of as an elite pitcher, even when he numbers say otherwise. Wins...he doesn't get wins. If he had won 18 to 20 games a few times in a row, there would be a different "ora" about him. Or if he was doing it on a team where you saw him dominate in the post-season, etc.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 08:51 AM) 3 episodes in and "Stranger Things" is rad. Finished and damn, that maybe up there with my best shows of 2016. Yeah - Really enjoyed it. Probably because of the nostaligia in it that somehow brought me back to my youth. So many random references / interplay with adventure type movies I loved as a kid.

So I haven't really said much on this, but James Shields commented yesterday I guess about Sale and basically said from the time he's been around him, he's been one of the best clubhouse / lockeroom guys he's ever been around. Given Shields overall sterling reputation (from a lockeroom) perspective, I'd take it as a plus. Obviously in the heat of the moment, he did something he shouldn't have done, but Sale had complained multiple times about the jerseys (last year and again in spring training when they had him try it on). He still should have worn them and not did what he did in the end, but it was Hayes who basically mentioned, people think Sale is this lockeroom cancer, when in fact, it is really the opposite.

Would love to know what really happened and what drove this. Can't just be him deciding randomly to cut up the uni's. Clearly more to this, but why the hell are people leaking this crap anyway. Keep it in the clubhouse.

That said, would take a massive offer and even then as Dave Hayes reported, he puts the odds at .01% that the Sox move him. Previous reports from a day ago indicating Sox turned down an absolute haul, but as Sox fans, we know an absurd haul is the starting point (not an absolute haul). Dodgers and Rangers reportedly two teams that have showed interest, however, we could presume that given Dombrowski's ability to land big names, there has to be the possibility that the Red Sox would be discussing Sale as well.

Needs a separate thread (vs. being burried in existing massive catch-all thread). Dodgers clearly have a lot of potential prospects and even some major league pieces they could offer (you'd have to assume that the starting price tag would be Urias plus one of their young, but streaky outfielders, along with at least one frontline prospect.

This needs to be in seperate threads. What do we realistically think the return could potentially be and any other thoughts on teams in contention who might be in the market for a closer?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 01:24 PM) I agree with this. It's pretty easy to expect less of a return on Quintana. It's hard to imagine a team offering what it would take to get them Sale, plus the team and fanbase are so invested in him. They should be just as invested in Quintana, or at least pretty close, but aren't. It would be interesting hearing the offers. I'd imagine there is a lot bigger difference in the offers than there is in performance. Which is why I have outlined why I think I'd move Sale over Q (not to mention we have an extra year with Q vs. Sale).

Thread for miscellaneous / non White Sox related trade rumors.

Forum for all relevant rumors, etc.