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But a 1:1 trade for Burger wasn't good. I was consistent in my views leading up to the trade, given how cost controlled he was, I didn't like the idea of moving him, unless you got real value for him. Because if Burger actually was able to develop and get better (which is not crazy given how little MLB exposure he has had) - than you are talking about a pretty valuable guy given the years of service. When I say better - I mean, improve the walk rate a bit, improve the contact rate a bit, maintain his power, and continue to refine his defense at 3B (where I think he's definitely serviceable). I got the concept of trading him - I would have rather traded Eloy or someone else and If I were to trade him, I get trading him for pitching, but a 1:1 for deal like this puts a ton of risk cause you are giving up a cost controlled major leaguer for a minor leaguer with injury issues, albeit with a draft pedigree.

I hear you entirely - all that said - I’m over excuses. Franchise qbs by definition overcome them. It’s one game so that game doesn’t make a season - but it was more of the same. With that said - I have said I will be patient, but my patience ends this season. By end of season - he has either shown that he is a franchise qb or they need to move another direction. Quite frankly halfway through the season, if it isn’t their try Bagent .

The only positive I can really identify is Mooney looked solid and it is only week one and a ton of teams across the league looked like s%*#.

If you don’t have a good offense or qb - your team will suck. Fields wasn’t good. The defense sucked too - but guess what - the defense was the worst in football last year…I am sure it will be a bit better but the story to me was how shitty the offense looked .

The oline was real bad and the play calling was either real s%*# or it shows you how little the oc thinks of Fields.

Fields was awful.

He can either elevate this team or he can go. It’s black and white for me this year. Mediocre or flashes are not good enough.

Maybe they will have the first and 2nd overall pick. Holy s%*# did they look like s%*#. Awful.

Oh man - pep and pineapple is my favorite!

I actually think they will fire him.

Miss having you in the booth. A true legend and since you left the Sox just haven’t been the same!!!

Dayton Moore does have a good idea. His whole porn crusade is ridiculous but he isn’t near as bad as people make him out to be on this site. If we actually see Getz bring ina. Variety of flavors from different orgs and actually beef up the development and scouting and analytics departments that would start to get me to feel a lot more comfortable. Don’t forget Moore earned his chops for a long time in the highly respected Braves org.

Let’s get ‘em fellas

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Completely agree.

There is some logic here I can buy - go get some good baseball people who got dropped by heavy analytics orgs - but you also need to hire good analytics people. Best orgs have good scouts and good analytics people and they work together well, but you got to balance both. JR just doesn’t buy it and I don’t get why cause hiring good analytics people and developing from within is way cheaper than being big spenders on fa market.

This is just crazy talk. GM job is a once in a lifetime opportunity. He doesn’t have the resume to deserve the job but that doesn’t mean you don’t interview and try in this scenario. I presume in his mind he had the swagger to say - I can do this and I would hope if he has that swagger he also has big ideas. Whether they are good ideas or he can actually take an idea and make it a reality - whole nother story. I have had good bosses and bad bosses - just cause I worked for some bad bosses, doesn’t mean I am not very good at what I do and I’ll also say I have learned just as much in my career from shitty bosses as good ones, so maybe Getz has seen how bad it is here and has connections and tied and immediately starts making good changes. Note: in zero way am I defending the hire - I would have done spend 2-3 weeks interviewing and getting insights. Maybe Getz is the best after that but spend 2 weeks to gain viewpoints and than hire Getz if that is what you do.

Post of the day haha

Wait - Jerry mentioned hostetler by name and said that?

The hard part of those extensions - giving young players massive amounts of guaranteed money, while it can be smart from a $/cents perspective, it also opens up to risk in terms of how hard certain individuals will work vs. not. In some cases - we went so early that the carrot really was never even out there.

I'll go back to - at this point, I know Hanh and Kenny were absolutely not going to do it. They clearly didn't care enough about farm system and other things. Whether that is also all JR, it might be, JR did at least allow for decent size payrolls last few years, even if he doesn't allow for big long term contracts. With Getz - the farm system isn't very good, but he brought some unique ideas out there in terms of the whole COVID thing and camp Birmingham or whatever it is. I don't know how much cart Blanche he was allowed vs. not and the poor system is a system of many things, not just Chris Getz. While his resume isn't there - he could actually be really bright and putting him in this position, maybe he actually is really bright and innovative and can take this thing to a much better place. Lack of resume doesn't imply lack of skill - it does obviously increase risk, etc. Reality is - as I've looked inside myself, I don't' have it in me to change franchises, even though I have very little faith in this franchise. % of faith didn't move in terms of owner - given how inward this whole search was, but I'll give Getz the benefit of the doubt (not that he deserves it) and hold out hope that somehow he'll be better than the last. Preferably much much better.

Bright side is - the quote at least said, but I like him and he's got some interesting ideas, re: Getz.

Oh joy.

Really should have listened to me and moved Cease at the deadline when he had high value. At this point I'm getting quite concerned that there is something more to this and next thing you know we see a DL stint.

Im assuming it’s an x issue.