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My team is abysmal.

Hockey is abysmal on TV. I just feel bad for the fans.

QUOTE (earthshiner @ Sep 15, 2012 -> 03:43 PM) I moved and I haven't seen a game in a month. Are they all going with the stache look? Ya; A good chunk of players are sporting the rally staches.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 16, 2012 -> 12:39 PM) I'm over getting mad at Peavy. He is what he is. A pretty good, definitely not great, starting pitcher. He is hittable and the wheels can fall off at any point. He's OK, definitely in the upper half of starting pitchers, but he is far from dominant. He's not worth some huge contract, but a ton of starters in the bigs are overpaid as well as him. IF top 20 is upper half, then sure. There is no arguing that he has been a top 20 to top 25 pitcher in all of baseball this year. There are, if you assume 5 starters per team, over 150 starters. That puts him far more then just being in the upper half. Plus, what is it with some of you all. He gave up 2 runs and got the win.

Love it. Sox win comfortable and Tigers blow one. Huge game tomorrow night. Lets go Sox!!!

Reed is dead. He's been crushed the past month or so. That said, it was a solid rookie campaign and he should get better.

LOL @ Jay. "Ya, I dreamed about getting sacked 7 times and throwing 4 picks".

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 09:07 PM) No argument from me. Trust me, I've defended Jay as much as anyone(said numerous times on this board that before he got hurt last year that outside of the big 3, he was as good as any qb in the league) but he made some dumb throws today and held onto the ball way too long at times. That being said, the receivers were terrible, the line was god awful, everyone f***in sucked. Jay is a great f***in qb, he had a bad game today but he's going to win this team some games single handily as well. Agreed on all accounts.

At the podium, this is a different Jay Cutler. He seems a little more sincere. Albeit, just a little. I liked when he talked about how he cares about the game and he talked about how they got into a passing game which hurt the line (not throwing them under the bus).

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:59 PM) Cutler was bad today but he certainly didn't lose them the game. The Bears will be fine, I actually think they'll end up winning the division. 7 sacks. Man he got killed today. And a couple of those sacks were on him (the late sacks). I also think not having Forte hurt. They needed to use Forte a lot when that defense was overpursuing. Cutler was rattled, no doubt about it.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:51 PM) Dude, it wasn't all Cutler's fault, everyone on offense was bad, I agree...what pisses me off is Cutler idiotic decisions, throwing into double coverage. He forces throws too much and most of them get picked off vs the Packers secondary, he's talented but he's also a bit of a moron. If there's nothing tthere, throw the f***ing ball away, don't throw a stupid INT and give GB great field position...the D did their job. Jay and the offense cost the Bears this game. Unfortunately, he gave up in the 2nd half. Literally gave up. It is the one problem I have with him. He lets his attitude get in the way and as a result he makes stupid mistakes. I don't know if Tice will be able to get through to him the way Martz could (even though it pissed him off and led to him getting fired). Cutler basically had 1 awful pick today. The rest of the time, I really didn't care. He had another 2 that could have been picked though and held onto the ball way too long late in the game.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:49 PM) Someone made a great point earlier. The Packers are just an awful match-up for the Bears. I was stunned at how many people in the media were expecting the Bears to win tonight. Like you said, the Bears will be fine. Really, a different game plan and better execution and this is an entirely different game. A poor 12 man on the field call (one I disagreed with), leads to 3. Then the fake field goal turns into a gift TD. Next you have Carimi with a dumbass penalty (Bears were finally using Forte/Bush and moving the ball) and were in a position to get a field goal. All just brutal things. At the same time, Bears proved one thing all night, GB couldn't stop the run to save their lives. Same thing they showed last week against San Fran. We should have been running all day until it finally opened up some lanes. Make them bring the safeties into the box and then go with a play action. This line can run block and doing all that would have opened a lot more up. There was also zero mis-directioanl plays. Tice just isn't an experienced play-caller so I expect growing pains in this area. Really, watching this game, I feel relatively confident about many things, only real concern is the oline and that has been the same concern since day 1. The biggest thing I saw was that our defense looked pretty freaking good.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:44 PM) cutler is the same f***ing arrogant prick douchebag he has been for the past 10 years. He is so f***ing full of himself it makes me sick. the guy is so supremely talented, if he had an ounce of humility he'd be a hall of famer, and yet he gets so little out of his talent. Yes the O line sucked, but the last 3-4 sacks were because he didnt get rid of the ball. he threw multiple times off his back foot tonight - same dumbs*** mistakes he has made his entire career...i His mechanics today were brutal. Probably because he was hearing footsteps every time he was in the pocket. Last week he had poor mechanics early (when he was getting hit) and then finally, once he got some time, the mechanics settled down. I don't know if Bates really knows a damn thing about passing mechanics. The dude might have been a total moron, the reality is, Shanny is/was an offensive guru.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:33 PM) Do people like Mayock as an announcer? Personally, I think he's outstanding.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:09 PM) At some point we need to stop making excuses for Cutler the way he plays vs GB Garbage game, but what the hell happens when you get hit like that.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 07:44 PM) On replay, that INT is more on Bennett but still a bad decision to throw that ball Not at all. That was an easy first down pass if Bennett does what he's supposed to.

QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 06:54 PM) Part of the problem is the game plan this coaching staff has against Green Bay. 49ers ran the ball all over Green Bay last week and we come out with the pass happy Martz offense I thought we got rid of last year. Run the freaking football and maybe their pass rush eases up a little bit. IT was awful. They should have protected Jay and the pass game early by rushing. They could have ran it all day long against GB. The game plan and execution offensively were just brutal. Capers panced Tice/Cutler.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 08:20 PM) Yes, but Bears meltdown sports radio is the worst. Beras fans are some of the only fans more reactionary and more terrible then White Sox fans. And yes, people who think this team is bad or not a playoff team are overreacting. This is a relatively new offense with new players and one that was overly cocky. It got smacked in the mouth and this team really struggled in many areas. They were overly cocky in pass protection (vs. running the ball early, something they did successfully all night; the Packers literally couldn't stop the run). They also really did a piss poor job executing. The bright side for me is the defense played pretty damn good against the Packers tonight. Bears have a long time to think about this game, but more importantly, they have time for Forte to get healthy (I hope) and have time to really work on the details as I think they got away from that. I can't even grade Cutler until the game was out of hand. He had zero time to do anything. However, he has to learn to control his emotions because once he lost control, he had no chance of recovering and that is a problem he's got to deal with. Just an awful awful game by the Bears. I can't even cal it a great game by the Packers. Packers played solid, but this game had a lot more to do with the Bears flat out playing like garbage.

Its a lucky thing I didn't close this thread. This whole site has been terrible to be on the past couple of days. That said, I know the importance of venting frustrations and the Sox play vs. the Tigers has been nothing short of incredibly frustrating.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 12:43 PM) No one has said he's an ace. His salary is irrelevant. He had major surgery. Most on this board, even the people complaining about him would have to admit he's exceeded their expectations. DA. You are the MVP of this thread!!!

Congrats gents!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 11:27 PM) Peavy is an OK pitcher, nothing special. He's worth the going rate for No. 3 starters, whatever those guys get on the open market. I guess to be fair he's a 2 or 3 starter. I happen to think he's more a 3. I'll be shocked if he gets huge money, but I guess Boston has the money to give him now. LOL. Peavy has been one of the 20 best starters in baseball. Do the math. He may not be an ace, but he is a #1 starter and to be frank is this teams 2nd best starter behind Sale and one of the best #2's in all of baseball.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Hudson's not running into something to tie the game there, which is what you need, as you're probably not getting 3 consecutive hits. Those other 3 have a chance. You don't let another AAA player make your last out. I have more problem with tonight, where we ran out two AAA relievers in big games (Septimo and Omogrosso), then the use of Liriano the day before. Neither of Septimo/Omogrosso have shown me much anything. On the flip side, Liriano is a proven starter with good stuff and past success. Albeit, he's clearly in a funk right now and has lost a lot of money over these past couple of weeks.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 09:23 PM) Don Cooper continues to support Septimo and his 3-6, 2 homers and 5 walks allowed in high leverage situations this year (stat taken from WSI) I absolutely can't stand Septimo. He is awful. I've been saying it all year. Omogrosso doesn't look like a mlb reliever either. The wheels seem to be coming off, but the good news is, after today, the White Sox can finally put Detroit in the rear-view mirror for good!!!! But lets end this series with a White Sox win and then play winning baseball the rest of the way.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) Not necessarily. He's changed his eye position by squaring around from where he's used to seeing the ball to a different spot. Especially in the case of a guy who is very used to seeing a pitch from a certain, and let's say "Unique" perspective, changing the eye location will have a big impact on whether or not he thinks its a strike. Whether it's a pitch he thought he wanted to bunt at and whether it was a pitch he'd have taken/swung at normally are 2 different things. That pitch was middle in, just below the waist, which actually happens to be in one of Youk's hot zones if you believe Yahoo. Heck, if the pitcher thoguht he was swinging, he probably wouldn't have thrown that pitch. You tend to have a better eye when bunting then you do when hitting. Longer time to react to the pitch when you are bunting vs. trying to get a hit.