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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) I agree wholeheartedly. A trade for a 2nd star is a far more likely option for this organization than a free agent pitch. I have heard Love's name thrown around a lot as the potential guy down the road, which would be awesome, again not gonna get my hopes up at this point. The big thing is, Love and Rose are pretty tight.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) We had a guy like that. His stuff wasn't stellar but he knew how to pitch. He is now with the Marlins. Let's not send another one of those their way. I miss me some Buehlre.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:08 AM) Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi #Angels, looking for a starter, had a scout watching #Marlins RHP Josh Johnson last night. Believed to be special assignment. If the Angels landed Johnson, what a great move. They have some nice prospects they could give up and he really gives them one hell of a rotation. I won't be surprised if the Angels/Rangers get into a battle on one of these high profile pitchers. I actually think Anaheim would be a good place for Greinke. Problem is they have too much money sunk into that rotation already and under the new CBA, I have a hard time giving up a guy that is going to walk for nothing (not even a couple draft picks) at the end of the year.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:09 AM) I'd wonder why the Marlins would want Floyd as a main piece for JJ. They are going to want Quintana and/or Viciedo. I wouldn't trade either of them for him. I tend to agree with you. Sox are getting a lot younger and are doing a nice job of retooling. Q and V are a big part of that and while I'm open to trading some people, those two guys aren't that. If Johnson was cost-controlled for a little longer, sure, but given the Sox's financial restrictions (due in large part to Rios, Dunn, Konerko, and Danks contracts), it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me to get rid of some of the cheap guys we have (especially when the Sox don't have a lot of replacements looming). If they could package Castro, Mitchell, and others for Johnson I'd be open, especially since the Sox are going to have to figure out how to do something when Peavy/Floyd potentially come off there books (depending on what they do with both players options). And then there is Youk as well.

A rare thread which I think should be pinned.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:05 AM) Also, I firmly agree with whoever said it is an awful idea for the Bulls to hope to clear out space space for another summer run at a free agent star. Not getting any hopes up for that one. I think the key is for the Bulls to acquire the 2nd star in a trade. I still think they make a run at Dwight but I'm probably crazy. However, depending on what goes on with the Twolves this year, I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now the Bulls made a major push for K Love. I think the back-up plan is if they haven't landed anyone by 2014, they at least know at that point, they can get under the cap and try in FA. However, I'm not sure if any impact guys are even set to be FA's then.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 09:00 AM) Johnson's not worth that. One-hitter be damned, the dude's got an era over 4, a whip over 1.30, and is having the worst month of his season even with that performance. I don't disagree. However, with the Red Sox and Rangers involved and him potentially being the biggest name on the market (depending on whether Hamels/Greinke get moved), it means there will be some serious bids. If the Sox could buy lower on him, that would be great, as he's an upgrade in the rotation and would be valuable for another year. I'd build the package around Floyd and other young players, however, if the Marlins are going to dump a bunch of guys, the question remains, are they looking to rebuild or are they purely looking to retool and give it another go next year. And if thats the case, unless you are getting other pretty good players, not sure why I'd move Johnson in a package centered around Floyd and one or 2 prospects.

What would the Sox be able to offer? Would the Sox look at moving Viciedo, Floyd, and Quintana? Would that be enough? Too much? I lean to it being too much. Quintana is a pretty valuable chip, however, given how he's pitched at a young age, I have a hard time giving up a cost-controlled lefty that has looked as good as he has. That said, he could be a one year wonder as it isn't like he has stellar stuff. But boy can he pitch. He changes speeds well, uses the whole plate, etc. I really don't expect the Sox to deal any more then one of their major league starters to get another starter. The exception to this rule would be if the club really thought Danks was coming back soon, in which case, you could have more flexibility to move 2 starters. However, with Peavy and Sale throwing a lot of innings, it makes sense to know that if/when Danks comes back, you have a 6th starter (probably Humber) who can pitch in long-relief and help out in a pinch. I'd be more then willing to deal Mitchell and other prospects to get Johnson. The question is how expensive will he be. He's still really on the road back from missing the bulk of 2011, however, he looked great his last start. Velocity is still down a couple ticks from his pre-injury days.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 24, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) Maybe we should make a "Miami Marlins on the block" mega thread. I think the big name guys deserve their own thread so you can follow the specifics regarding such player.

Signed through 2013 and coming off a one hitter in which scouts from the Angels, Red Sox, and Rangers were all in attendance. Some rumors out there that the Sox have kicked the tires on Johnson as well. Johnson missed the majority of the 2011 season.

Oh. I wasn't indicating the Sox are looking at him. That said, if the Marlins are going to sell low on Hanley, Kenny would be a fool not to listen.

Okay. So I have a project to do before Bulls season, but somehow I'm going to link this forum and the Bulls board to where the same logins, etc are used. That way, the Bulls threads show up here and can be posted here (not ever having to leave Soxtalk). Then there will be a general NBA discussion thread for all other nba discussion. Going to try and do something similar with the Bears. However, the goal is to make it where you can visit Soxtalk and get the discussions from the other forums within here. If I can't get that set-up, there won't be any change. But its on my agenda of things to do.

Mark Gonzales of the Chicago Tribune passes along a video interview with White Sox GM Kenny Williams stating, "There's no sense" in acquiring a marginal upgrade to his rotation. Williams implies that his club will only be interested in adding a front-line pitcher, and that he's willing to look at prospect deals to improve his club in the short-term. Williams is also optimistic that John Danks, currently on the DL, can return and improve his team's rotation.

For those minor rumors, which don't deserve its own seperate thread.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale The Oakland #Athletics,desperate for infield help,have jumped into trade talks for #Marlins Hanley Ramirez, joining #BlueJays and #RedSox.

How long it will be open, who knows, but with a flurry of action yesterday, trade discussions are picking up and there is no better place to follow the MLB trade deadline then Soxtalk. Please post all baseball related trade rumors within here (including non-White Sox related rumors).

I live in a different world. 8 hours is like a vacation. Thankfully the past couple weeks or so I've gotten to live that vacation.

Mike Trout is my favorite player in the majors. And to think I wanted the Sox to draft him, lol.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 08:04 PM) There's no reason we can't sweep this series. One game at a time..one game at a time.

Great win. Lets keep it rolling tomorrow! Nice job by the middle of the order. 3-4-5 all with big homers. Youk/De Aza doing a nice job getting on base and lots of DP's. Floyd, great job battling through it.

Run Dunn. Run. Geeze, that should have been an infield single.

Beautiful DP. That is one thing I love about the Slayer. He is stellar defensively.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:13 PM) Thing with Beckham is that I'd be stunned if there's not a GM out there who loved him as a prospect and think they can get the best out of him. To be honest, I wonder if a change of scenery would do him good. He's made improvements from Walker, but not big enough improvements. Very heady player but mentally he is awful at the plate. I don't get it cause he made everything look so easy. Ahh crap, dink and dunk Twins ball.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:12 PM) Morel's hitless so far, and you'd be losing a ton of range at 2nd. If the choice is Beckham or Morel at 2nd, give me Beckham. Agree defensively. It all depends on what Morel does with the bat. Morel has a long road back, but I really liked what I saw from him last year. He made progress throughout the year. This year was wasted (with his celiac issues and then the back problems).

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:11 PM) You have to wonder if he'll ever get the mental aspect of the game. If the Sox can make a deal with Becks, Nate Jones and whomever, I'm all for it. If I were to make a move, it would be to upgrade 2B. Not sure who is out there.