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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:10 PM) Totally OK with giving Orlando some starts at second. If Morel is 100%, I'm not opposed to seeing what Morel can do at 2B. This is obviously a ways off though, given that Morel is still down in Bristol and has a lot to show first.

Beckham is so bad.

Bullpen is much different from last week. Nice knowing you have Crain and Myers available. That is a huge upgrade over what we had when the games were being blown. Myers, while a piece of garbage person, was exactly what the White Sox needed. Rotation is quite a bit different now that the Sox have Floyd back in the rotation too. I don't think its a surprise that the 3-7 streak happened at a time where the club was really struggling through injuries (more then it has most of the year).

Perfect. Grab some bench.

Alright Gavin. Lets get this final out here and call it a night. Then let our bullpen finish it off for you.

Dang...I didn't quite talk enough crap on Becks. It seems that he hits everything to right. Probably because his swing is too long to do anything productive down the left field lines. Never did I think I'd complain about a sox hitter who goes the other way too much.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:55 PM) Can you message it to me mate please? The one from my usual source isn't working. Oh, I don't have that (i use the mlb package). I was just on my dvr so game was a little delayed. Finally got up from the dvr.

Gordon is awful. He really is a terrible hitter. His swing is garbage. I'd be so happy if the Sox were able to replace Gordon and Dunn with good hitters this off-season. Note: I hate Dunn. Great guy but I hate all things about him and his type of player. I hope to hell the Sox can sell him and get rid of his contract.

Damn. 2 good players by Dozier today. Finally on a live feed.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:50 PM) His command most of the year has been off. Not his past 5 or so starts. And as a whole, his overall season numbers are solid. The 1st and 3rd situation was tough luck. Great hit and run by the Twins. How about a nice inning ending double play.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 05:19 PM) I see Floyd and Humber have reverted to their post injury forms. I think Floyd has a good night. Command a little off early but stuff looks good.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) Add me to that list. And they might only get one playoff game. Highly unlikely that they catch Texas, who is incredibly complete as well. Albeit, losing Lewis is a big blow.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:11 PM) The Tigers are playing great baseball now too. I'm not sure how they aren't that good. They have the best 1/3/4 hitter combo in baseball. They also have the best #1 pitcher of any team in the playoff hunt for the AL. They have a lot of other great pieces fitting behind all of those players. Their rotation is as tough 1-5 as any team in all of baseball, plus a very good end of the pen. The weakness they have out there is their early pen guys. With that rotation, they can hide those guys pretty nicely, like the Sox did early this year when their rotation was pitching well. Tigers are playing great, for 2 weeks. They may keep it up, they may not. I fully expect them to have there struggles and I think the Sox have the talent to stay in contention. I think the Sox might actually be better, however, they aren't heatlhy, so right now, the Tigers are the better team.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) What's the deal with Haren this year? Velocity seems down. And yes, I do agree the Angels are the best team in the majors. Haren had a back injury he was quiet about. Finally went on the DL to let it heal. It was really impacting his stuff. Came back yesterday and looked significantly better.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) I agree...and Haren came back last night and pitched against the Rangers. Is supposedly pain-free. Yep. He looked good last night too. I'm waiting another start or two to see if he holds up, but when he's healthy, he's a real legit front of the rotation starter.

If I were the Tigers, I would not have given up on a guy like Turner this early.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 03:38 PM) I think the Rangers are the clear best team in the AL. After that, I might put the Angels under the Tigers with their starting pitcher problems. Angels have the best record in baseball since the end of April. They are playing fantastically and just took 2 out of 3 from the Rangers. From a rotation perspective, CJ Wilson and Weaver have been money. Haren should be back shortly. There offense is better (Trumbo, Trout, and Pujols is sick). They also are playing with no legit catcher (until Stewart comes backs) and have one of the best bullpen era's in baseball. Angels are also very very strong defensively. Tigers have a similar rotation, well, until Haren comes back. Haren/Weaver/Wilson is very strong from a post-season perspective. Tigers don't have anything close to that strong that they can throw out in the playoffs and there pen is not near as good either. Tigers aren't that good of a team. They are a playoff contender who people overrated because they signed Prince (and didn't realize how much they played above their talent a year ago). I won't be surprised if they make the playoffs, but they aren't near as good as the upper echelon teams in the majors, imo.

Wow. Didn't realize Ichiro has a sub .300 OBP.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) This is a team that won 95 games last year, and pretty much replaced Victor Martinez with Prince Fielder. Now they just added two players that address their biggest weaknesses. They are a team to be respected. Are they beatable? Sure, if they beat themselves. This is the team with the most talent in the AL Central. They should be on a pedestal. And to be frank, they won 95 games cause they got hot late in the year. Most of the year they were a .500 team and in many ways they overachieved. They are beatable. They aren't the Rangers or Angels.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:20 PM) Foye would be a drop-off from Rip or Belinelli at the 2. But I'm not talking about him being a starter. And last I looked Rip and Belinelli are on the roster. Foye basically slides in after those guys and Hinrich. That is a pretty quality guy that deep on your bench. The big thing is his ability to back up at the point guard position as well. Plus, you also have to have someone play minutes at the small forward spot. Butler clearly will be getting more minutes but there is time, depending on what Deng does.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:12 PM) Just no. Getting a long term option at the 2 is far more important than whether we get Kirk Hinrich or some other reject at PG in the 50 or so games this year. Barring a miraculous comeback by Rose, they're not making any kind of noise in the playoffs this year anyways (assuming they even make it, which would require near perfect health). I'd MUCH rather have Mayo and someone like Aaron Brooks than splurge for Kirk. The other question is whether Mayo takes 4M to play with the Bulls.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 02:09 PM) I'm not saying that Teague is better than Foye, I'm saying that the impact that Foye could make in those 10-15 minutes he gets instead of Teague (unless he plays the 2 as well, in which case, ugh) is of little significance in the big picture. I don't know how many minutes Foye gets, but he's consistently been a 25 mpg type guy (including on a good Clippers team last year). I expect him to get solid minutes at both positions. And it isn't like the signing of Foye has prevented the Bulls of signing anyone else (and that is even if they sign Foye). He's probably the best guard on the market right now and you are talking about a vet min deal.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:52 PM) You guys wanna read some funny ass s*** from KC Johnson, note the bold portion: That right there is a mother f***ing JOKE. If ANYONE in the Bulls organizations has ideas of Kirk Hinrich starting at the 2 guard in 2013-2014, we have more serious problems than any of us could have thought. Unless Hinrich reverts to his Chicago Bulls form, that is a terrible idea. Even then, it isn't a great idea. And Hinrich has shown very little that he's going to revert to the player he was most of his career with the Bulls.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:54 PM) So if their two best options at the point are out, he's useful. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement. The only situation where I'd tolerate him is IF Kirk did get hurt. I'd have absolutely no problems with a 28/20 type split at the position between Kirk and Teague. It's not like Foye playing 10 of those minutes would make a massive difference on your record. Well, I'm not quite sure you can say Teague is a better option then Foye. I fully expect Foye will get a lot of minutes at the point early in the year (as Teague is adjusting). The guy was a late 1st round pick. The odds that he amounts to anything are very low.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:48 PM) Come on Gage, the Bulls rolled out the red carpet for Hinrich while Dallas snags Mayo. That right there is absolute bulls***. Same price. I actually think Hinrich is a more important piece and I'm probably higher on Mayo then anyone on this board. However, Mayo absolutely can't play the point. The Bulls clearly needed a PG, hence why they made Hinrich a priority. That said, if you want to completely give up on this year, then I'd argue Mayo would be the better get (as I think he can turn into a solid 2).