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QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 7, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) realllllllllyyyy Until he actually signs the offer, the Bulls can trade him. Once he signs, then at that point the clock to match actually starts, and during that time the Bulls can't trade him. They also can't trade him to the Rockets. Edit: Jake, gotcha. My misinterpretation.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 05:20 PM) I'm like 99% sure you can't trade a guy once he signs an offer sheet. You are right. But he hasn't signed anything officially until the 11th or 13th. I forget which, so technically, the Bulls can trade him still.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) There's some grumblings that the Bulls might match the Asik offer. Shoot me in the f***ing eyeball if that happens. Best case scenario for the Bulls is to deal Asik before he actually signs the deal. Otherwise, if they ink him, they have to hold him for a year. The key is if they keep him, they'd have to move him prior to when Gibson becomes due (cause Gibson is far more valuable). Bulls screwed up. They should have moved Asik at the deadline, but no one could have known that Rose would end up going down (and a team expecting to win a title isn't going to trade a guy like Asik). What the Bulls need to do is start figuring out ways to get salary cap exceptions via trade (like the Lakers did when the dealt Odom). Those can come in extremely handy when you are over the cap (as long as you are willing to potentially be willing to pay some tax).

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 09:54 AM) Dallas fans are going nuts. In my extreme pipedream, Dirk gets restless too and Bulls trade for him at midseason. Yeah. The problem with Dirk is the Bulls might be solid this year, but really, they are a year away from being able to contend again. Getting Dirk could make the Bulls a contender next year and the following year, but after that they are in trouble. Dwight would put them in a spot that they could do it next year, but then in the following years they would be legit. Worse case I'd structure the deal where if Dwight walks, you'd clear cap space and could make other moves. Be ballsy and just try and win Dwight over when he's here. To be frank, staying with the status quo doesn't do the Bulls any good, so might as well do this.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) With how the FA market has been playing off so far, any chance Bulls get Howard on a last minute desperate ALL IN decision to compete (on both sides)? about the only real impact move the Bulls could make, which would make me feel really good about the squad going forward, is getting Howard. I don't think it will happen, but part of me says, screw it, go all in and hope he'll sign later on. Do the Bulls lose out the ability to offer a longer deal to Dwight then anyone else, since he wouldn't spend a full year with the team?

Good, low risk move. See if our coaching and different voices/change of scenery can help him succeed. Lefties that can get that fastball into the mid 90's don't grow on trees (albeit it sounds like his velocity is all over the map).

I'd add a vet reliever for the right price, but to be honest, I'm relatively content with the roster as is.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 02:56 PM) Billups reportedly back to the Clippers. Along with Jamaal Crawford.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:43 PM) And could we throw stuff at him? Hopefully the Sox hold off on the gloating until they win 95+ games en route to a world series title! Either way, I'm enjoying this season one day at a time. After a couple consecutive frustrating years, this year has been great thus far.

Happy Bday Ernsty!!!

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:28 PM) feels good to suddenly - with one friggin move - put yourselves over the top into legitimate contention. Kenny Williams, thank you for Kevin Youkilis. If Youk is healthy, that move might be what put the Sox over the top. I feel so much better about this team with Youk. Now lets stay healthy and get the rest of our guys back.

Lets keep this up White Sox!!!

Well done!!!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 09:24 AM) The contrast between the Hawks and Bulls is amazing. The Hawks are out there chasing the top guys on the market. The Bulls are chasing Kirk Hinrich. Not sure I get this. Bulls went big when they had money to spend. They don't have it now. Really there is nothing they can do.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 01:39 PM) He hasn't been that great this year though defensively. He has lost a step range wise and isn't getting to as many balls as he should. Sure, he still makes the GG play here and there, but so much of being a great SS is making the normally hard plays look routine. I have been a huge supporter of Alexei, but it's clear he is a bottom five SS this year in the AL. The stats back that up, both defensively and offensively. Jeter wins the GG every year based on naked-eye scouting. People see him make the great plays. But the metrics show he sucks. There is no way anyone is going to convince me that Alexei is one of the 5 worse shortstops in baseball. Even as bad as he's been as a whole, he's one of the 10-15 best shortstops and if his past month is an indication and he does his normal thing, by year end, he'll be one of the 7 best. And defensively he's still one of the best.

I wonder if that changes given the fact that Axelrod threw a decent amount of pitches last night.

I like it. Young, toolsy. Long way away, but seems to have some upside.

Relatively high pick too.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) Do I care about the whole Ozzie "quit" on the Sox thing? No. Do I think Ozzie is a huge douche, not worth the headache, and a sub par baseball manager? Certainly. I eccho those sentiments. PS: Despite some rumors, my account was not hacked.

QUOTE (Tdog32 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 10:10 AM) Good luck Brian! -B Warn Very cool; I assume they are sending Axelrod down.

QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 06:44 AM) Before Deng and Rose come back the Bulls are probably gonna be be looking at something like: 1-Hinrich/Teague 2-Rip/Hinrich/vet min 3-Butler/vet min 4-Boozer/Taj 5-Noah/Asik Oh my. I'll be honest, if they have those guys (and they are healthy), that team is still a 7th or 8th seed in the east.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:43 PM) Eric Jaffe signed reported by Baseball America Very nice.

Listen. I'm not going to make this warning more then once. If people want to talk at TalkBulls they can, if they don't, they don't have to. This thread is open for discussion of all NBA related things (Bulls or Non Bulls). Anymore discussion or this self moderation, everyone go here, needs to be cut-out. Soxtalk is what it is and it has great sports discussion (not just baseball). If people want to talk about the Bulls in this thread, then they are 100% entitled to do so (and no one should tell them otherwise).

Because Viciedo has done more at the major league level then Johnson ever has. Because Viciedo is more talented then Johnson. Because Viciedo's minor league numbers are better then Johnson's. Dan Johnson might be a solid bench player for the Sox, if they didn't already have 2 guys relegated to 1st base (Konerko/Dunn) + another guy who can play it (Youk). The Sox are going to bring quite a few other people up before they bring up Johnson (imo). For example, Connor Jackson.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 27, 2012 -> 07:20 PM) I saw the catch earlier. 4 more hits tonight as well. This guy went 25th overall. I don't believe he fell because of signability issue. Some heads need to roll for lettin' this kid get away. He was one of the guys I wanted the Sox to draft. Really liked his ability. Never thought he'd be this good though.