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Never thought I would say surgery is a good thing - but this seems like great news. If they can be patient and this actually fixes things, they should have Lonzo back by turkey day. Would have preferred they figured out this months ago but maybe just maybe he will get things back here. Would be huge cause a healthy Ball would be a huge lift for the Bulls. In meantime - hoping Ayo and Caruso are both healthy and can take advantage of their reps - in particular interested in seeing how Ayo has grown. Even better would be seeing Williams and White with their first healthy offseason take some real huge steps forward too. Not holding my breathe though.

You still have Robert, Anderson, Moncada, Vaughn, Eloy. Maybe some don’t belong on that list plus Aubreu. Rotation still has guys like Cease, Kopech, Gio (one bad year after a few real good ones). And yes some of those contracts suck but every team has some bad. Grandal is probably worse - pollock not great but he is producing since Lasucka left and does have a good track record. So there is plenty there - get creative and make something happen.

Shakes head - not at Hendricks and I still say with a better manager we will see a better Moncada. More like a 4 WAR guy. But they need someone creative for a lot of this.

It is amazing how many bad moves I just listed - let alone the money spent on Kelley / Graverman / Pollock into next year. I will say - one scenario that would quickly remedy things would be Grandal bouncing back next year. I keep hoping if they miss - they start over. Kenny retired and they do what Bulls did and bring in new people and change things.

I agree - Andrus and Cueto worked stellar. Pollock / Kimbrel / Kelley / Rodon non qual / no outfielder / Leury were a disaster.

A lot of money tied up on this pen too.

It sure stinks this entire team, which deserves plenty of its own blame, had to deal with the mgr who was historically as bad as I have ever seen for as long as they did. Maybe this can be the reverse Nayler game and they shock us.

I have to remind myself - they also ran very few plays. Packers totally owned them yesterday and it showed. I kind of think the good thing with Fields is - we know what he needs to do to show us. It is one thing if the wideouts aren't getting open, but we got to see his decision making show up and his special play ability to be there regularly. If we see enough flashes of that - you feel good (regardless of drops etc). If we don't - than you know you don't have anything that special and you move on, cause you can't waste your time with mediocre at the QB position. I will also notate the first few weeks - I'll give some benefit of the doubt, but after that, you got to go make plays and regularly. Show you can put the team on your back despite sub-part talent.

On the topic of Martin - he has been admirably in his role with the squad this year - but look at his numbers in Charlotte and before - someone has to tell me what is happening at the MLB level is truly sustainable vs. a more historic track record of being a relatively meh minor league pitcher and meh minor leaguers don't typically translate into okay or even good major leaguers (unless of course there is some sort of mechanical adjustment where plus stuff and meh command gets corrected). I don't see Martin as having electric stuff so I got to think this is a small sample size in the Sox favor more than anything else (and touche to Martin for doing it) but assuming he is anything other than fools gold would be a mistake in my mind.

The wideouts are absolute trash.

Good news is if he plays a few more games like the first two weeks it makes things easy for the brass….he has to start showing some real growth and fast.

Based upon the piece in the Atlantic - some of this would appear was driven by an approach led from the top that minimized the focus on this. In all fairness - with a more juiced ball the Sox might be crushing homers at a high clip and hitting at a high average, so it might have worked - but they never adjusted this season under TLR (if he really was setting the tone) - but it seems like at this point something different is happening in terms of approach. It also is very clear that a different tone has been set. Really unfortunate this tweak wasn't made at the same time the Phils did it with Girardi - cause it was pretty evident at that point things weren't working - whether it was the Mgr or not - you knew the Mgr certainly wasn't helping. This is not revisitionist history either - as I said the same thing back than.

Even if the rally falls short - if they keep this alive the final month it at least gives me much more hope and optimism heading into next season (because it really does mean TLR played a pretty huge role in this fiasco). It doesn't mean that there aren't other bigger issues to fix though, cause there are.

There is an issue with our server / host right now. They are trying to figure out what it is but some risk that we see a bit more outages until they resolve it.

Server had some random issue (not sure what it was) - I was traveling so didn't realize it was out but it needed the old hard reboot.

If only iowa could find a qb….maybe it’s a me thing and any team I am a fan of is cursed with lousy qbs

Boom goes the dynamite

Hell yeah - did anyone know there was a no hitter going on earlier???

What’s that - is there a no hitter going on…a no hitter….really a no hitter…

I wanted to deal him last year - cause I never thought he was worth the contract he wanted (but did value him for what he did for the Bears during his tenure here).

Alan Robinson got the ‘21 Nagy usage too. Two targets.

That was real fun. Don’t stop now boys!!!

Lol - I did it too. I was like let’s get him out of here. He has really been hitting though since he rejoined the squad.

I am sure he can and that platoon isn’t terrible. Burger can get some ocassional at bats at 3B as well. Per dollar production out of that platoon split would be pretty good. As long as club spends that savings in other spots where the club can upgrade with premium talent, inclusive of defense at more premium positions.

For someone who couldn’t see the game - How did Kopech look?