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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 01:12 PM) I also agree with you Sonix, there is just no way I can ever root against a Sox team or anything like that. I will say this team is about as frustrating as the 03/04 Sox teams that would route people one day only to get there asses kicked another day. This team is too good to be where it is, but really they haven't done the little things to win games. Some can be contributed to bad luck, but at the same time they've made a ton of errors (in the field, at the plate, in the head, etc). Ok, I haven't read the whole thing but I will ask this question, and then go read the article... (uh oh, ) but the mental errors tells me something perhaps - has Ozzie lost the team?

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:50 AM) Enacting single payer systems is less extreme than not enacting single payer systems. Got it. Context? You want to talk about me and context... GOVERNMENT. Duh.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) well you can't argue with that. For one the 1930s and 1960s never happened in our countries history. What they are trying to do now makes the 30's and 60's pure stepping stones.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:23 AM) man, you just have no context on any issue. Read something. I'm not the one who goes around saying this stupid s***. Nancy Pelosi and other Democrat mouth pieces are. Context my ass. They know what they are saying.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 07:07 AM) The far left is kinda of pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise. *Yawn* Obama: "YOU WILL HAVE CHOICE" Obama (not widely reported): "it might take 5-10-15-20 years but (paraphrasing) single payor is the goal". And don't sit there and say that he's "changed his mind". Otherwise people are damn fools who can't look into what the long term goals of this plan are. I know what the bill says and I know what the long term objectives are, that no one wants to think about because it's something that is "lies". BS. THEY SAID IT. But I guess those were "fabrications and lies", right?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:42 AM) John McCain's voting record so far this session is one of the most Conservative/Republican records in the Senate. (Limited data admittedly). Of course, because this is the most liberal (MARXIST, ) agenda in the history of our country.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 07:14 PM) Or, maybe, he did it for the reasons he clearly stated (and that I agree with) - that, among other things, the GOP has swung waaaaaaaaay too far to the right and focused far too much on their social agenda in that regard. Or that Obama is simply a better leader and manager than McCain would be. Couldn't be that. And McCain was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too far right? BS. McCain should have been his man, but it wasn't enough that he was a "MODERATE", was it? Whatever. Obviously no one will change their minds on anything here.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:47 AM) yes, the far far left agenda is ... a public option oh, no, it's mainstream, conservative, moderates, liberals, agenda - a public option. The whole WORLD wants this! (Except those mobs, nazis, crazy f***s showing up at these town hall meetings.)

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 10:00 PM) I might go ahead and buy a signal booster. If you go from second floor down to a basement, that's highly suggested. I had a hell of a time getting our ATT E2Wire to allow a router to hide behind it. I finally got it figured out after much gnashing of teeth and a few screw offs to the 2wire. Point is I have a wireless n router I wanted to use behind the 2wire ... which only goes up to G. Whatever, ya;ll are looking at this going "whatever".. LOL.

Being that he's on the DL - he's already part of the 40 man, right?

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 11:24 PM) Don't really buy it. I doubt the actual investigations will make much press, and I doubt that this as a smokescreen was the motivation. I do. Obamas are not to be covered, Schmucky said yesterday they are going to the reconciliation route (essentially saying there's no way ObamaCare will be stopped), and they want to bring the loonies back in by - oh yea, we got those Bush Motherf***ers we need to get - GO GET THEM - while health care makes a little path away from the far far left agenda. Move the hand over here, LOOK, (don't want this hand, don't want you to see this side). And back the other way. And back. Classic Obama.

B B BbbBbbBBBBBBBBB ut... McCain was Powell's PERFECT "MODERATE" candidate! If he would describe a Republican that would WIN, he would describe McCain. Oh, no - Obama's better. And ethnically like said Democrat president whose political ideology was supposedly not his views but more closely aligned with Old Man McCain. Ya'll want to turn this into something else, and the facts just don't support it.

Forget it. Not happening. Any other ideas?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 05:09 PM) And you're making the conclusion that he did last october something other than what he thought was best based on what? How are you able to read his thoughts that well? I'm not giving him credit for "Doing what he thought was best" when he clearly wound up being wrong. He thought it was best to show loyalty to people who abused that loyalty ruthlessly to sell their war. I'm not judging him based on his good intentions, I'm judging him based on the disastrous results he was a part of. Ok, then he's just a total disaster. Forever. Including his assmunch moves last fall. But "loyalty", as you're trying to describe it, was only a part of the equation. He asked questions, he got answers, and that was that.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) Going before the U.N. and convincing the country to support a war you yourself don't believe in, and refusing to resign or do anything to change the course of events...totally respectable. Endorsing a guy from the other party who happens to be the same race as him...despicable. Oh, so you love him, right? He supports everything you stand for. (yes, that was sarcasm). He's always done what he thought was best, even questioning when he had to. Until he put all politics in front of everything else last late October.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) Venezuela wins two in a row. Chavez has a woody right now. Chavez has... oh nevermind.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:36 PM) These recent revelations about the CIA torture/ "harsh interrogation" is actually going somewhere. Between this, Ridge, Blackwater, some of what Sarkozy said and a lot of other information that has trickled out, its pretty much confirmed how terrible of President person a Bush was. This all comes out right before Congress comes back to vote on health care. Smokescreen, baby. Edit - to say it better, this has been simmering for months - and they're going to pursue this right at the same time. Right. Nice motives.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 01:14 PM) I don't know Ridge's full story, but I know a bit about Powell, and I don't think he's trying to save face. He pushed against what he saw as a mistake of a war, repeatedy, in the way that he saw as a best possibility - from within the administration that hired him. His speech at the UN, he pounded on CIA and others, to ask repeatedly, is this stuff solid? That resulted in the famous "slam dunk" line. So he did his job, and presented that evidence (but he made frat boy from CIA stand right there next to him, making sure he knew that he was putting his reputation at stake as well). Powell has, in my view, been more honest than most high level guys I've seen work in these administrations in recent years (of the ones I know anything about). I had respect for Powell right up until the whole "endorsement" thing for Obama. That was calculated bulls*** for the Washington establishment and his ethnicity (unfortunately). PERIOD.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Wait what, a majority of Americans don't want to see healthcare reform? Were you taking a nap when Obama made half his campaign about wanting to reform healthcare and then he got elected in a landslide and his party got a supermajority? The opposition has gotten louder but believe it or not, people's minds haven't really changed all that much from when this started. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/...changing-minds/ He got elected because he wanted to change health care? As I've seen said, Jesus could've ran as a Republican and not gotten elected in 2008.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 11:17 AM) sh*t if America wanted the Republican's making these decisions, they wouldn't have voted them out of control. That's not true, either.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 09:50 AM) White House To GOP: We're Gonna Do Reform With Or Without You Which is what they were going to do all along. This is no surprise. It's still proven that the majority of the country doesn't want this, and they are going to shove it right down our throat.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 09:51 PM) I wasn't referring to the census data. I already explained why the 45M number is overstated. I'm in agreement with you on that one. edit: really, it looks like you missed ss2k5's post that was an article relying on some conservative "think tank" (read: ideological apologetics) said. Gotcha. I see what you mean now.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) "Thinktanks", by definition, are useless sources of information. Expecting an objective analysis out of one is like expecting the Vatican to ever say anything negative about Roman Catholicism. They're completely beholden to an ideology. The census is not a think tank.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 08:22 PM) I'm pretty sure you folks are the ones who are arguing that the census count isn't the accurate representation of the uninsured. No, I don't think so. Unless I don't remember something, which sure as hell can be the case.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2009 -> 07:44 PM) So we get called out for using any data at all from any group on the left, and when we return the favor, it's always different? The census is SO BIASED. Right. It's tiresome. About the only two sources that aren't really biased is the census (until ACORN gets ahold of it) and the CBO (until Obama meets with them to tell them to use his numbers).