GreenSox

If they are going to fill the team with 2nd team free agents, there is no reason to have tried to rebuild in the first place. That's exactly what they did in 2015 with FA signings and ouigi board trades. And it would be worse this time because at least then there were 3 studs to build around. And with those 3 studs, the results were ugly. Machado or Harper, fine. But forget the 2nd tier guys - they aren't cornerstone players and the Sox have 0 cornerstone players.

The Sox very well may do that. I'd rate it 50/50. Most teams would change their pitching coach, manager, etc. etc. Very little chance they do that unless JR or Williams finds his inner Larry Baer.

Sets up nicely for Steverson as scapegoat.

And Narvaez may be able to hit, albeit with little power, and Covey might be a fifth starter or something. But no cornerstone players, and we'll need 5 or 6.

Rodon wasn't missing bats before the last few games where he has imploded. Certainly don't expect the Sox FO to meet an Astros, Brewers, As, Braves, Rockies, Phillies (despite the collapse) rebuild timetable. That would mean 2020 (and in some cases 2019) and would be completely unfair.

Pay me a GM's salary and I'll lay one out. If you think this is going well, then I admire your optimism, stamina and loyalty.

Harper

I don't have any idea who Sale will sign with, but it won't be here. Cutch has Williams/Hahn written all over him.

Cooper should hit the road before Steverson. Does a true Tank fan root for the Tigers this weekend or have they already won the tiebreaker.

Yea, in most circumstances that would be...but this is a Renteria managed ballclub. But I guess it doesn't really matter what the intent was...they didn't use their stronger bullets. Several of these players are interesting, but it would be nice if a few would become studs.

I'd feel a lot better if I were confident that that they were losing on purpose.

Except that that didn't exactly work out swimmingly. Rodon is okay but not much more. The Astros passed on him and ended up with Bregman a year later.

I know what a successful rebuild looks like. This ain't it. Last time they were trying to put a bunch of free agents around 3 quality players: Sale, Q and Eaton. Now they would do it around...what exactly? A few players who may turn out to be good. Both premature.

That's fine if they want to go after Machado or Harper; or even a 2nd/3rd tier pitcher like Corbin...some stability in the rotation will help. Otherwise, it's a repeat of 2015 which prompts one to ask, why rebuild?

I hear ya, but your plan depends on the assumption that Hahn would have come up with that package. That's a tenuous assumption. See Todd Frazier, a similar player (and several other of Hahn's July deals).

It would be nice, not that it would do much good anyway. Can't wait to get another Gillaspie, Cordell or Madeiros

It's been so dismal that fans are turning into masochists. Another round of Shields? Dear lord.

Tonight was a righteous tanking effort. I realize the advantage of finishing behind the Marlins....but, my god, how can we be so bad as to finish behind the Marlins!

Nate Jones - another spot on the 40 man now freed.

Except that the ownership let the same people who ran the org. into the ground stay in charge for the rebuild, as per above. That is a problem, and, if this doesn't work in the next couple of years, the problem.

Leury, Rondon and Yolmer are utility players; Leury can play OF and is probably the best SS of the 3. Yolmer probably has the most trade value, but the Sox, par usual, have nothing behind him at 3B. Yolmer also walks some and something tells me he might explode soon. Delmonico had a rough year; I can see the Sox dumping, but I don't see a real urgency to dump.

If we don't have a playoff team by (generously - 9 years!!!!) 2021, then we can write.....

Yes, but they were trying to win until 2 years ago, albeit ineptly.

Garr's batting average was good. His OPS was modest, to be kind.

I don't fault JR for not spending, and that sort of thing - he has spent. He can go either way on spending. I do fault him for over-loyalty and I feel that he will be comfortable should the White Sox fall into a decade long Royals/Pirates funk, for which I think there is a decent chance, and he won't do what is needed to shake the organization out of it.