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Flores K rate is 6.67 per 9. Really doesn't miss enough bats. On the other hand, the Braves pitcher who dominated the Sox in game 1 averages almost 12Ks per 9 - and he's not in their top 30.

This is probably the 5th or 6th game this season that prompted that question. So, probably not. Very little pitching.

You're right. I edited my post to more clearly state what I was trying to say.

To simplify on edit: Tatis is a constant reminder of the open, but often unspoken, question in the back of the minds of some people (the elephant in the room) re this rebuild: Does this FO have the ability to pull this off? Some think it's just one of those things that happens; perhaps bad luck. They are understandably annoyed by Tatis talk. Others think it's

The team is in no position to sign FAs anyway. There's not one position of strength, other than utility player and one starting pitcher (and a few maybes). If they did sign FAs, they would do other silly things and this rebuild would peak out at about the Hahn level, which is 78-80 wins.

There's tanking And then there's this. What is this?

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying but those other guys I believe had called up before by their prior teams so clocks were already running. Also, the development of Moncada and the 3 pitchers hasn't exactly excelled so maybe they want to take a different track and zig-zagging is something they've done numerous times during their years in the FO.

Another insightful article from Mr. Bilek. Thanks for writing it and posting it. Hahn speaks in cliches, fondly called "Hahn-isms" I found this intriguing: "I should note, it’s only in Hahn’s interest to stress patience as it just pushes back the time until he is graded on his performance in this overhaul. Realistically though, Hahn wants to have enough time to gather enough young assets to achieve the “critical mass” – perhaps the most key Hahn-ism – to build a sustainable, annual winner." I think the first sentence is absolutely true. You could have said that about the rebuild itself, although most would agree it was necessary. RE critical mass, it seems to me that after the trades of Sale, Q, Eaton and numerous top 11 picks, that the critical mass right now should be sufficient to create a team that wins for a few years. But the key to sustained winning is the constant re-engergizing of that critical mass through new young talent, which is going to be more difficult than it was to amass it.

They have to do something about this field staff after the season.

I would say that Medeiros at 40 is a bigger concern, to the extent one is concerned with fangraphs. But fangraphs see him as a LOGGY and if they are right, then, yes, that would bad value. But the Sox think he can start. That's sufficient upside.

With all due respect to my tanker friends, losing tonight's game was ridiculous.

Maybe because he was "toolsy" and people are sick of toosly, but Burger was a reach (and later signed for below slot) and people didn't seem too upset. There was no real consensus as I recall.

Yep

The Sox got an elite prospect. Tampa didn't. But they are two different types of trades. Tampa made a re-tooler trade for young ML players Sox made a rebuilder trade for prospects who were good ways away.

Dozier's a player I'd like to see on the Sox - can he play 3rd? He's not having a good year, and is 30, but he's a good athlete and maybe he can be signed for reasonable terms.

I remember him from college as a starter and was going to ask whether he could start - thanks for addressing that in the write-up.

I would say definitely so.

Nice trade for the redbirds...they move a lot of their good not great players along when they approach 30.

Rodon is not a pitching prospect. He's in his 4th year. He was drafted before the rebuild. He pitched in the majors 2 years before the Sox decided to rebuild.I know the Sox have a lot of pitching prospects. But the start of this thread is that the Sox want to be decent next year. And my response is simply that the reason they aren't decent this year is the pitching. What some people don't seem to appreciate is that Davidson, Leury, Palka, and Narvaez have out-performed on offense players that were fawned over from 2014-16. I guess it's the non-hyped prospect bias.

Why? Because the Sox have the worst starting pitching in MLB. So far they are 0/3 with top starting pitching prospects (and yes, they could improve). The pitching is why this team is so bad. Not the hitting, the pitching.

Then I would suggest that they trade Avi for some young pitching.

Sure, if they are legit lottery tickets. But to me moving Avi is priority.

Absolutely not. But the Marlins should be shopping the heck out of him off of this career year and only 2 years of control. A hitting catcher is icing before you have cake; career years, 2 years of control - big nix.

No Correa, no Altuve, questionable DH, no bench bat: the Astros need a bat. A team I'd love for Hahn to cut a deal with. Garcia for, oh some LF named Tucker currently hitting .143! Throw in a sweetener - Astros can have anyone from the major league bullpen.

Depends on how you value defense. Leury misses catchable balls out there. Anyway, the work by the Birmingham and Charlotte coaches seems to have been exquisite so at least he should continue to learn down there.