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Melky was an awful signing. His career numbers were nothing special anyway and a decline is no surprise. What I don't understand is why Ventura coddles him and DHs Garcia, the younger player who needs the work. Ventura probably thinks Melky is the better player. Shark is a fly ball pitcher. Don't know why the Sox wanted him so much, irrespective of his deterioration.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) This is correct. KW signed Melky Cabrera on his own. Supposedly Hahn thought they could have gotten similar production for a lesser price. KW wanted to stand pat in the middle of July to hold out for a last run, Hahn wanted to trade Samardzija in early-mid July. KW decided to wait. Hahn was correct on both accounts. This info is actually reassuring and affirms what I though - KW was all over this.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 08:09 AM) Did anyone happen to read the Keith Law blurb on Spencer Adams yesterday? yes Not good. Says he's regressed.

Saladino should get at-bats every day. Can't think of a reason not to give them to him. Alexiei will finish with an OPS below .700. The sox know what He can do. He can DH some and sit more. They can pick up the option. While a severe overpay, 9 million is a bargain compared to what they are getting out of Laroche or Melky (whom the Don Ventura refuses to sit). Alexei can also play outfield so that gives him some versatility.

Saladino doesn't have the bat for third. That's pretty obvious. So they let Olt have a crack at it. Saladino should play short right now, but the Sox insist on playing all veterans. Thompson has been killing the ball. No reason for him to not play every day. We might have a gem.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) Trade RF Avi Garcia, 2B Carlos Sanchez, SP Tyler Danish and DH Adam LaRoche for to Padres for Matt Kemp, minor league C Austin Hedges & 6 mil cash considerations each season. I wouldn't trade Avi Garcia straight up for Matt Kemp. Kemp is mediocre these days and getting worse. It's sort of like the CW around here that Melky has done his job, while Avi sucks. The reality is that Avi has hit just as well as Melky, and leads the league in OF assists. QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Trades: White Sox trade SP Jose Quintana, RF Avail Garcia, 2B Micah Johnson, SP Chris Beck and SP Tyler Danish to the Rockies for 3B Nolan Arenado and C Wilin Rosario White Sox trade RP Zach Putnam to the Marlins for UTIL Derek Dietrich I like the thinking behind the Arenado trade - try to get a young stud in here. I think it's too much and Rosario does nothing for us. What worries me about Arenado is that his OBP is pretty bad...and compared to his SLG, it's really bad. So I wonder if his gaudy numbers are sustainable. Might use Quintana on someone else or to fill 2 holes. People undervalue A Garcia. Don't know why. he's had 1 full season, outplayed Melky, but somehow everyone wants to ship him out.

A) why isn't he throwing his slider? B) Cooper seems to be a lot better with lefties than righties. Most of the pictures that he's jettisoned have been righties

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) I think you're missing the point which is that Olt has proven he cannot hit major league pitching. He's had 273 major league at bats. He hasn't proven anything.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) Cespedes is pretty much the perfect player for the Sox to go after, but he will probably get a 6-7 year deal, same as Heyward, and the last 2 years do you trust a 36/37 year old Cespedes in right field or a 32/33 year old Heyward? Actually, he's the kind of player the Sox should avoid. Low OBP, pain in the ass, 30. 3 teams in a year. Cespedes won't get a 6 or 7 year deal anyway.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 09:12 PM) I don't know why, but to me, Zobrist screams ".230 hitter" for the Sox. Just the type of thing where a guy has a good track record but struggles here. Same with Harrison- I wouldn't say 2014 was an anomaly for him, but I don't see him ever having a season as good as that one again. I think his 2015 numbers are more indicative of the player he really is. That's because he's 35 and the Sox record with >30 is pretty bad. Neil Walker himself is 30; like to see someone younger. Has bad defensive metrics, FWIW. And he'd be a 1 year rent. Pass. Pirates would never get a mid-rotation starter for him anyway. Not the kind of players I'd trade young pitching for. Prefer to take a different approach than "proven veteran."

Look at Jordan Guerrero - closing the season with a shutout.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 03:52 PM) I wonder how much we will see Olt this September? Cueto made him look like s*** but against the other guys he got a couple nice line drive singles and made a nice play on D. HOpefully he plays every day. Saladino to short. Alexei to DH

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 04:18 PM) Now it's time to go home and lay an egg against CLE #2015 That's what we did last time we came home after a road sweep.

QUOTE (LDF @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 03:44 PM) Tor claimed 3b - Matt Dominguez from the waivers. i am wondering if the sox had a chance to claim him or did Tor claimed him before the sox..... does anyone know the order of the waiver list. Sox grabbed the more interesting 3B lottery ticket.

Sale, Rodon, Samardzija (if he accepts QO or mid-priced free agent), Johnson, Danks One ace, one potential ace. Q trade should shore up holes. Minor league pitching (which is still in A ball) is protected.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 06:38 PM) If he is in the picture it means he is showing his earlier promise. He has power, somethimg the Sox can use. Chances are. A year from now we will all forget he was ever a White Sox, but it is worth a shot. Agree

Beckham is in the lineup tonight. Just the player the Front Office should be trying to get a good look at.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) What's Olt's status for next season? Does he have minor league options remaining? Probably not, or he would be in Cubbie AAA - right? I'm glad they're bringing him up - find out what they have. Probably nothing, but the Sox have nothing at 3rd anyway. Meanwhile, would someone kindly tell Don Ventura to sit Alexei for the rest of the season and let Saladino or Sanchez work at short?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 06:25 PM) Kenny actually seemed to do better when he didn't have as much money to play around with. Mark yep. And his best trades were the small ones. When he would decided to pile on the prospects for the "elite" player, they weren't so elite when they came back here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Focusing too much on cutter caused his fastball to not be ready out of Spring Training? Also, I've said all year his mechanics are different than last season. He's pitching less over the top, which has caused his splitter to not have the same movement from last year. Cutter is Don Cooper's m.o.

I believe it. Note how Samardizja has changed what he's throwing. Not nearly as many fastballs; lots of sliders and Cutters, Cooper style. Cooper needs to go right along with Ventura. Sox should make him the QO offer.

Don Ventura sacrifices the team's second to best hitter, to take the bat out of the hands of the team's best hitter. He can't think a move ahead.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 07:23 AM) This is such a typical statement from you. A 2nd round pick drafted out of high school, a 7th round pick and a 17 year old Venezuelan kid signed for minimal money turned into 3 major league players. That's a win. A utility infielder for a second round pick is not a win. It doesn't matter whether it's high school or college. That said I'm not convinced these guys are just utility infielders. People around here have a tendency to give up after six months of seeing a player play. A young player that is. I have no problem putting those two at second and short for next year. Although it should start right now every day.

Sox AZL champs!!!

It's call-up season, so who does Ventura/Cooper put into the lineup? Gordon Beckham, everybody! But no call-ups.