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Could someone please explain why a 4. ERA national league pitcher who walks a batter every other inning is so compelling? Did we have one of those once- Todd Ritchie? We need players for the bullpen or for the top of the rotation- not at the bottom.

Except that we're really, really weak at LH hitting. We can't lose the one bat we have.

Jones offensive numbers have been in sharp decline in 3 of the last 4 seasons. No thank you.

Rowand for Estrada? I would guess Rauch and Borchard and Rowand and Marte for Estrada is closer to reality.

He got hurt after which he was never better than average. At least he pitched in the LCS which is more than can be said for McDowell or Fernandez

A team as strong as the braves??? They aren't strong this year and their prior strength has been largely in pitching. Further, if you count this year, 3 of his past 4 years have been below par, suggesting he may be getting worse. All this for only 13 mill per season- I'll pass. Do we really need Ortiz? He's a 4.00 pitcher (in the NL) who walks a lot of batters.

I'm not sure they can hack it this season. anyone have any Ben Davis info?

We would be stuck with Jones for 3.5 more years at a ridiculous salary of around $13 mill. That makes no sense.

On a team that won 100 games. An ERA of 3.81 with an average of 1 walk every other inning. He's had only 2 seasons with an ERA below 4, and those were closer to 4 than to 3.5. The worst team he pitched for won 86 games - the others won 97,90,95, 100 an 101 (full season). Pretty much the Ritchey credentials.

Wonderful- trade top prospects to rent a slightly above average pitcher. It's called Ritchey Redux. The astros traded one prospect and an overrated closer for an all star center-fielder

A lot of teams break in young starters to be via the pen. The Sox usually don't. But, I like the idea- gives the youngster a new experience before joining the starting 5.

Maybe this will be the year that that dominant Cub franchise posts back to back winning season for, what, the first time since the 1950s? As for pennants, now factor in how many times the Sox finished 2nd to the Yankees

I am glad Cotts and Adkins are up. They have good arms, can pitch in the back of the pen (everyone's back pen sucks) while getting experience

Ozzie himself refused to walk as a major league player They trade for a player that refuses to walk. So the idea is that they will work with him on plate patience, when it meant nothing to the manager when he was a player? I have my doubts.

They are really the key to the offense If they can't get on base, no one to drive in

Just because you win when you have an abundance of talent, does not mean you are a good manager. LaMont was a terrible manager

Only a) makes sense- and that only if it is worked out prior to trading for him. Re B) How can we, at $55 mill, afford a long term contract on a player making$10Mil+? It removes all flexibility. If we are going to do that, why not sign Maggs long-term? Re c) it's obvious that mid-season trades don't provide the yield that they once did- you might get 1 prospect. Work this out now- don't put ourselves under the gun for later. Some obp players would do wonders for the Sox O. We have sufficient power.

What? No deacon?

Eric Soderholm Britt Burns Jason Bere (for pitching like a man in the Toronto series, while McDowell pitched like a eunich) Bucky Dent

The Ritchie trade, hands down. We didn't scout Ritchie well, and even if he was what KW thought he was, we STILL overpaid

I find it hard to believe that Boston would get A Rod, without having aplace all lined up to dump Nomar.

And with Nomar on the payroll at 12 million we aren't gasping for air? I have no problem trading maggs - but for Nomar? For what purpose????? Don't you find it odd, that the Sox are never discussed in the incessant A-Rod discussion - without us taking Nomar, the Bosox don't take A-Rod. It's like, our part of the deal is a given and that makes me feel uneasy Oh, and Juan G is not a hall of fame player - no way, no how

I like the Randy Winn part of the deal. But I'd prefer younger players on the other part

Sorry, got the year wrong. IN 3 (edited) of the last 4 years, he has driven in 70 runs or less. Maybe it's all injuries - but he wouldn't be the first player to see his skills decline in his early 30s. It's a gamble - and again, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? How are the Sox better for this deal? Not the RedSox, not Gammons, not Epstein, not Selig, not A Rod -----> but the White Sox. My gut tells me MLB is sticking its fingers into this and applying pressure as they want what many consider the game's best player in the big eastern market.

what ruined him in 2001? How do you know he is over his injury or that he will produce with no injury? His obps have been horrid the last 2 years the question remains - how does this deal make us a better team?