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The other thing I like about this is that someone competent actually saw him pitch and can articulate a reason for his improvement. Other than his Pedro affectation, I like what I've seen out of Getz. Miles ahead of his predecessor.

I think it's worth the risk, too. Much better than $12 Mill to Marco.

Could be. If that’s the case, just hold on to him for a year and a half, then package with a reliever in July ‘25 and we can get that return. That’s basically what we got for rents of Lopez/giilito.

I am not convinced that a decliner coming off injury like Gonzales is market value $12 million, but even if he is you can get that on the free agent market so it really shouldn’t be any part of the return. reminds me of trading for Nova.

I’d take Kelenic as a throw-in. Need an outfielder, he could improve. And it’s a chance to right a wrong!

Gonzalez is a #5 except for that one fluky 2020, and getting worse and is paid a lot. Why would the Braves want anything to do with him? Why would we want anything to do with him?

I get the Benintendi angst, but Moncada will be here for 1 more year, they don't have anyone else at the position, and it's not all that unlikely that he has a decent year. I suspect that any savings from moving him will go into JR's wallet and the Sox will pay for it prospect-wise. Looks to me that the Braves just reloaded their spare parts, after sending a bunch to the Sox.

Braves actually sent Seattle a decent pitching prospect for that pile of junk

Those teams from 2000 - 2005 were loaded with talent, and they still needed some "blindly falling" to win it. This team will need a miracle...or Getz to be a great GM, which I suppose would be a miracle.

Well so much for that idea I just like the idea of getting some more immediate help. I fear a complete rebuild turning into the perpetual Pirates

I guess I'm the squirrel here, but I'd take that deal with the Rangers, if the prospect was upgraded from Stephan to Walcott or Acuna. Taveras is an improving hitter and Bradford should be a fine back-end rotation guy.

I forget his name, but there's an outfielder on Az who looks interesting. Ex con, but he did his time.

I don't know about the specifics. Just that I know they have a lot of good young players, their FO lineage isn't as prospect-hoggish as others, I don't think they are quite at the LAD, TBR, AB level such that we are less likely to get their foolsgold prospects, and we've made good trades with them before. St Louis would bee fine too, as they've made mistakes trading prospects before, but I suspect that they're gun-shy and are only willing to trade out of their junk drawer, which is pretty deep in quantity.

I'd like to see an Arizona trade.

Fans of the 71 win Cardinals debating whether they can possibly part with Edman, Donovan, O'neill or Carlson for a Cease trade.

Well, that's why we're in this position Those are okay Major League K and walk rates. But he earned those in the minors.

Leery of Kjerstad. Ks a lot, doesn't walk enough, chases. Not headliner material, to me.

Understandably so. GMs like Hazen didn't get where they are by trading away their best prospects. Of course also where his is 0-3 and outclassed the playoffs; hopefully, he cracks. If anyone does, it's likely Baltimore (or us). Other GMs would give-in; of course, that's a reason their teams suck and aren't in the market for Cease.

Yea but E Rod was a rent, and while there is a definite sellers market aspect to July, there is also a buyer's market in the sense that the seller has to unload or they get nothing. And as it is, 2 years of Cease is a lot, lot more than 3 months of E Rod.

That was a lousy deal for Boston on paper; no surprise that it turned out lousy. I don't think the Dodgers give up much talent either. The Nats haven't gotten much out of the Scherzer Turner trade. That the Dodgers, who know the Sox players and prospects better than anyone (including probably the Sox themselves) like Cease should send a message to the other teams that Cease is worth trading for; but also is a warning flag not to trade with the Dodgers (especially if they want a prospect kicked-back their way). I'd prefer a trade with the Cardinals, who have given up good players. But no interest at all in their spare parts like Edman, Donovan and all of those failed outfielders, except as a toss in. The Cardinals were a sorry 71-win team last year; about what the Sox would have been, had we not dumped our pitching in August.

That is the quintessential "trade Cease for the junk drawer of a 70-win team" trade. And we'd have to throw in a reliever for the privilege.

The Os could hug 3 or 4 specific prospects really tightly and still make a good offer.

That’s fine. It tightens up the pitching supply and we no longer have to listen to St. Louis fans offering up the junk drawer of a 70-win team for Cease.

Roll Wave! One more to the Peach Bowl!

Well you're probably right and they probably are.