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QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 11:59 PM) If Shingo and Vizcaino pitch like they're capable, we don't have to worry about the pen. I have a good feeling about Viz. Not so much about Shingo. Even still, I think we are a little behind the Twins in that department. I look for a mystery ace. mybe the sox-r-us flag will be prophetic and we will get Gagne.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) Twinks will not go anywhere any time soon.....we need to upgrade at 3B or SS at deadline if we are serious to go deep We gotta keep winning baseball games. It doesn't seem to matter who is injured with the Twins. They fill with quality. I have a gut feeling Kenny will fortify the bullpen.

:headshake Hunter with his 2nd dinger in the game. Twins take the lead in the 7th. :headshake

Zona 5-Twins 5, Twins still hitting.

Twins pulling there usual magical act. Bases loaded and down by 2 inthe 6th.

Radke in actual danger of issuing a walk, threw 3-0 get-me-over to L. Gonzalez and Luis parked it. 5-2 Zona in the 5th.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 10:57 PM) my god, joe crede is a terrible human being The last time I remember him bunting he bunted into a double play.

4-0 Zona on a Royce double. Ha Ha.

3-0 Zona now.

Nice start to the Arizona game - 2-0, Zona, man on 2nd and nobody out in the 1st. Glaus up.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 7, 2005 -> 08:27 PM) I agree thats a bit over the top. But the sentiment is justified. All this talk about Timo and Ozzie being lovers is ridiculously classless. Crap like that makes this board look like s***. Along with the suggestion of anally impaling Ozzie and all the Slownerko jabs ........ yada yada yada ....ad nauseum......... :headshake

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:13 AM) All I ask from our 1b is for him to catch the f***ing throws from the infielders. Timo failed, plain and simple. It made me go to the fridge for another cold one.

QUOTE(GASHWOUND @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:46 PM) The reason i think Perez was in there cause I think he wanted to get as many lefties in there against Byrd whose a hell of alot worse against lefties then righties..And I can't really remember a day off he's had.. "Perez was starting for Paul Konerko, who was given the night off to rest and even skipped pregame drills" With 2 straight days off he should be ready to go another month without a break like all robots. Reading this thread made me sick to my stomach and started to really be dissapointed with my fellow sox fans with Ozzie the worst ,manager and he should be fired even though we have the best record in baseball is pretty retarded. We don't know the situation was with Marte and marte is always the first guy Ozzie brings out of that bullpen in these sits, but I sure he felt he couldn't go..maybe Marte said something..maybe it was Ozzie's call..But I'm sure all you would want to pitch the late innings are Marte ,Pollite, and Herm the rest of the year.. But this isn't a video game, they aren't machines to be called every single day..The innings pitched is deceiving cause I've seen multiple times here Marte has been warming up in the pen and ended up not brought into games. And those warm up pitches also to add up at the end of the year..But I don't want our guys arms falling off in August..We HAVE to use guys like Vic and Shingo..We CAN'T be just using 3 damn guys out of that pen.. It be nice for us to have a like a 7 run lead going into the 8th so now we can put Vic and Shingo for mop up, but we've been involved in like what..over 20 one run games this year? So in the end it be nice for us just to use Cliff and Herm...and the amount of s*** I've been hearing about Marte sucking this year if he'd off blown this game we would be calling for his head and Ozzie's head.. "Why didn't he bring in Herm to pitch the last 3 innings?!?!? He hasn't pitched ina while and he was a starter..he could go 3!" Lets face, the Angels had 4 lefties going in a row..Cliff does better against righties, we have Walker on the roster just for this situation..To get lefties out..Hasn't pitched in a while..He didn't get the job done..maybe it was Ozzie's fault for not pitching this guy only 2 innings the past 2 weeks..The guy was a rusty mess... I guess Ozzie was put into a corner..He thought Marte couldn't go and I'm sure Walker is gonna be sent down when Orlando is activated. I guess he had confidence that Walker would get the job done.. Didn't work out, but to call out someone's incompetence with out context is shameful. I'm sure if you guys were the manager we would be undefeated and on to being 162-0 cause you know everything... Lets see what Ozzie has to say...and not to be petty and call for someone head cause it makes you sound silly.. But hey, maybe our guys will take our players back to the lab for some fine tuning and maybe some state of the art replacement parts so we'll be able to go with the same 12 players on our roster with out a days rest. Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto Well said. And just to add to the Timo thought. Maybe Ozzie is aware that Timo is on the bubble with the impending arrival of Gload. And he wanted to give him a chance to prove his worth by adding 1st to his versatility quotient. And it's not like he hasn't been a hero recently. On the surface, shouldn't he have a lot more range than Paulie. Who is struggling. Harris surely has more range than Gooch. With a predominately left handed hitting opponent and a right hander on the mound for us (with a somewhat questionable mental makeup), the right side defense of Harris and Perez could have been a boost to Contreras. I'm not saying this is the move I would have made, but it might have factored into Ozzie's thinking.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:12 PM) Good point about the hitting. I'll agree with you that they looked to be on everything we threw. It might also be because our pitchers this series didn't seem very sharp at all. I also wanted to go hide when Walker came in. I'm sure Ozzie did not feel good doing that. He was presenting an unknown lefty who was supposed to get 3 outs. Didn't work. I'm sure he felt that Marte, Politte and Cotts weren't available. If the Sox had 6 relievers at the top of their game at the moment, then he has no problems with his decision making. For the record, and it's just my personable opinion, I have not completely given up on Viz. The season is long and it seems to me his stuff is not bad. His location is. To me, this is fixable. Of course I have been called gullible before.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) They got meatball after meatball from Walker. Even the Sox would have likely scored against someone like Walker pitching. How many times are we supposed to tip our cap to different pitchers or hitters? I wasn't referring specifically to how they beat up Walker. I thought they looked better at the plate through the whole series. Against all of our pitchers. We won 2 because our starters looked better than their starters. Mcpherson looks like he is hitting his stride in our prsence. I've never seen Molina look to be on the ball like he was in this series. Finley is showing signs of busting out. Anderson was doing what Anderson ususally does. Kennedy looked dangerous. Etc, etc. Everyone talks about the Sox, but there are 2 teams out there on the field.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) I could say the same for you and just about everyone else in this thread who thinks they know everything about not only what is happening, but also what will happen and what should have happened. Right on. On the one hand everyone is pointing out our bullpen sucks and on the other they are wondering why our only effective 2 or 3 pithers can't pitch every night. I cringed when Walker came out, but the season is long, it was the 7th and we didn't have Marte, Cotts and Politte available. Somebody has to pitch, so he brings in the unknwon lefty. It didn't surprise me that he got rocked, but the Sox seem a little thin at the moment with the bullpen. I'm sure that Ozzie would wave his magic wand and replace Walker and Viz with effective relievers if he could. Perhaps a tiny bit of hat tipping could go to the Angels at the moment as well. Like Texas, they seem to be attaining their hitting eye. Too bad Uribe was a hair out front, or we would of had our greatest ending in a season of great endings.

QUOTE(He_Gawn @ May 31, 2005 -> 10:37 PM) I think you should calm the f*** down man. :headshake Your right. And he is not the only one.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 31, 2005 -> 10:22 PM) Ozzie over-manages yet again. I'm getting sick and f***ing tired of this s***. Cotts was rolling, so he puts in a tired ass Marte. f*** you right in the ass, Ozzie. Once again a poster over-reacts. :headshake

4-2 for the Indians.

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) Only the 2nd unfortuneately... Thanks. A nice crooked inning would be nice, with Sabathia out there.

QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ May 31, 2005 -> 08:27 PM) Tribe with runners on 1st and 3rd, no outs What inning - my gameday doesn't work.

QUOTE(Yossarian @ May 30, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) I know Iguchi didn't need to blow a DP ball and Marte didn't have to walk in another run, but is everybody happy with his handling of the pitchers? He started the inning with Buerle. I thought 'good'. Conventional wisdom would have been take him out after the first runner reached, so that he could not lose. However at that point what do want more than a double play and who better to make it happen than Mark. Sure enough he get the grounder, but it happens to be a high chopper and they only get one out. He stayed with Marte after that and that kept Estad on the bench. Again, it works, but for the Iguchi boot. And after the game, he said Hermanson was not getting loose. I got no problem with the way Ozzie handled the pitchers. My problem was with who he sent up to the plate. Of course, I don't have the advantage of knowing how certain hitters have fared in the past against certain pitchers. And none of us knew of Frank's hip flexor problem. When he pinch hit for Tad, maybe he was thinking Shields is nasty and Iguchi has seen little of him, whereas Carl, not only had the lefty righty advantage, but has been around more. And it is always difficult to pinch hit with your second catcher. Nobody else can spell Widge if anything happens to him. Mostly I feel good for the Sox, but I especially feel good for Ozzie, as he was put into a difficult position by his defence. Thank god for Oz that it worked out. Hears to Ozzie.

For the first time this year, I am going to question what Ozzie is doing.

Indy waited until the first hitter in top of the 8th to get their first hit. Then the next batter got their second. They then scored with a 3rd hit in the inning, but the guy down trying to stretch a single into a double. Another great throw by Anderson. Baj then came in and shut down any further damage. In the bottom of the 8th, Frank hit the ball very hard.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 28, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) WHY THE f*** IS CARL IN THE 3 HOLE? We have not yet managed to clone 7 Tadahito Iguchis, so someone else has to do it.