HuskyCaucasian

Didnt watch the debate (just got home from the Celtic thunder concert), but I love this moment. McCain's like "Zero? Oh s***. really? crap. now what do i say?"

McCain Spokesman: No Lobbyists Here. Nope, not a one. We're clean as a whistle.

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OOPS! Obama talking points accidentally sent out: Nothing shocking that we haven't heard already. It's the standard spin.

Palin lives in Imagination Land:

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 12:56 PM) Will McCain bring up Ayers or Wright? I think Obama and Biden have basically goated McCain into doing it now. He almost has to force it in. But, that can VERY easily be spun against him. So, he looses either way. He's chicken if he doesnt, and he's negative if he does.

In 4 years, can they left us SoxTalk people mange the debate and rules? I think we could do a better job at making it worth watching.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) This discussion is getting a little over the top, no? agreed. there's a reason I'm staying away right now.

I'll be at a Celtic Thunder Concert.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) It'll be the last time he'll be able to appear on the national stage with this amt. of people watching. So I guess so. He is in deep s***. he could buy a half hour of prime time TV to run an infomercial, but no one wants to hear him talk for 30 minutes straight.

Very Good News For Obama via InAdv/PollPosition: Florida: Obama +4 North Carolina: Obama +2 West Virginia: McCain only +2 Nevada: Obama +3

Russians Invade Alaska... Palin Clueless (ok, it's just a joke... but still...) Via TPM: Via CNN:

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 15, 2008 -> 08:55 AM) From that link: "McCain had no trouble fraternizing with ACORN in 2006 when their political interests coincided with his." Just shows that as usual, McCain is willing to reach across the aisle in a non partisian way and work with those on the other side for a common goal. more like he was willing to support a group when it benefited him and now that it isnt, they are evil.

Also, by law these registration organizations are required to submit ALL registrations... even those they know were faked.

I stopped trying to think like KW a long time ago. I cant get in his head.

One of the main reasons I love the B&B show is they can be very intellectual then on a dime be just complete goof offs. The show reminds me a lot of myself.

Interesting thought: Exit polls dont really factor in early voting as best as I know. So, when it comes to a state like GA, exit polls may show McCain +5ish, but in reality, due to heavy African-American early voting, it might be 1. This would apply to ALL early voting states I would think. including key states like Ohio and VA.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 08:01 PM) Theyre not calling him a terrorist sympathizer. Theyre pointing out his relationship with someone and letting people draw their own conclusions based on the persons background. should Obama mention McCain's transition head lobbied for Saddam? Seems like more of a direct link to out right terror then working on a board 30 years post.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 07:56 PM) And I'm reading that the difference in OPS between those 2 players isn't as big as we'd expect. that's a good analysis. The Dem v Ind v Rep percentages are really hard to nail down. I'd throw out any poll that has Rep and Dem near tied. The weighted numbers are: Dem: 37.47% Rep: 29.16% Ind: 33.4%

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 07:07 PM) I normally don't like posting national polls, because they miss the point. But they can sometimes show a few interesting trends. And once in a while, a poll might be so interesting that I just can't pass it up. CBS: Obama +14 Among independents, where McCain had a slight lead last week, Obama now leads by 18 points. Well, I'll post a few more numbers here that are very interesting: Does he understand your needs and problems? Obama: 64% Yes, 29% No McCain: 43% Yes, 53% No So, the "elitist" "intellectual" Democrat is beating the "my friends" Republican by 21 points. Opinion of the Presidential Candidates: Obama: 50% Favorable, 32% Unfavorable McCain: 36% Favorable, 41% Unfavorable Opinion of the Vice-Presidential Candidates: Biden: 43% Favorable, 21% Unfavorable Palin: 32% Favorable, 41% Unfavorable One week ago, Palin was 40% Fav-32% UnFav Which party is more likely yo make the right decisions about the health care system? Dem: 55%.... Rep: 18% This is probably why Obama has been hammering health care since the last debate. Is your mind made up or is it still too early to say for sure? Mind made up: 85% Too early to say for sure: 15%

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 07:27 PM) Id compare it to Obamas ad that has been on TV a lot lately, where they talk about all the tax cuts for oil companies. They know damn well that the actual tax proposals are for all businesses but they spotlight oil companies to mislead the public. Now, is it true that oil companies would benefit from the plan? yes, but so would a small business owner struggling to stay above water, but you dont hear about that. Both sides throw stuff like that out to let the publics imagination run wild with it. Would it be hard for McCain to exempt oil from the tax cuts? Absolutely not. But he wont.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 07:26 PM) My theory, was that due to Obama opening offices in every state, McCain likely would not win in the solid red states by as much as Bush won them. Oh i agree there and I think most polling proves that out except in maybe states like Texas. But to me, a "close, but not enough" loss is really nothing more than a moral victory. Now, if Obama were to lose the Electoral College, but win the Pop. Vote, then we might have an uprising. And maybe... just maybe... this electoral college system will be dumped, or rendered useless by the National Popular Vote movement (see my sig for a link)

Now this is turning an issue on its head:

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 14, 2008 -> 07:12 PM) I knew I wasn't crazy for watching Georgia. I think it's a real long shot, but worth the effort. I thought I heard a while back that Obama moved some people out of GA and into NC and VA. So, I think they think they cant win it either. But they wont give up the ground game, especially with McCain in a free-fall.

oh hell, I'll let 538 do the math for me: