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QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 05:47 PM) I never knew Dan Bernstein was an Ozzie fan, but he's been suggesting all day if the Sox tank this series, that a change will be made. Thinks it could be Walker or Cora getting fired. I don't think he's a fan. I think he, as I, recognize Ozzie's strengths. But do his strengths override his weaknesses at this point? And even if you don't think they do, do you give him a lifetime pass for '05? The answer to the latter question should be a resounding no. There's just no reason whatsoever that this team in this division has made the playoffs one time in the last 5 years with the money they've invested. I say it all the time. If we were in the AL east, you cut him a little more slack. But not this s***ty division.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 04:10 PM) If you had Smoak, you don't waste the dollars on Dunn. I like Beckham, I just wouldn't take him over Smoak. Excellent point. And the hindsight police can save it. We're fans. What we say or think doesn't mean a god damn thing. The people getting paid to select the best possible talent year after year are the ones that need to be, good or bad, held accountable. Or else what are you paying them for? If Trout becomes a star and Mitchell becomes the left-handed version of Josh Fields then they, as a group, failed.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) I would try to take advantage of the Red's need for some consistent pitching. Dangle Danks and try to acquire Grandal as the Red's have catching depth. Mesoraco is near MLB ready and ahead on the depth chart. The Sox desperately need a legit catching prospect and I hate AJ Pierzynski with a passion. Yes, I like this. I'd try to get another low or high a prospect with a projectable ceiling as well. Only thing is would the Reds do this with John set to hit FA after next year? They're already regretting the awful Arroyo extension. They're going to have to make a decision on Brandon Phillips after this year. I just don't know what their budget is. Danks is likely going to command $75-80 million over 5 years or so in FA.

Jackson has been traded , what, 4 times in the last 5 years? Does anybody really think that another team out there wants to make it a 5th time in 6 years? He is what he is. He'll never get better. We're saddled with him. All we can do is hope he goes on a run and pitches himself into type A status.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:25 PM) Speaking of Dunn, he got an award today from Jayson Stark: Via I told Balta Dunn was having one of the worst seasons of the modern era. And I got hyperbole thrown in my face.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:18 PM) Id like to say what you could add to your resume after this brilliant comment but I dont want to get banned. lol. Oh c'mon. He was playin'.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) I guess it depends on how you define "center". Is it based on size? His ability to play through contact? His ability to play with his back to the basket? His ability to defend anyone and dominate the glass? Some combination of criteria? People use different definitions. Some consider Pau Gasol a center because he's frequently played there, while others don't. Tim Duncan has/had all of the typical attributes of a great center, but he's generally considered a PF because that's the lineup the Spurs have typically used. Dwight Howard is considered a center at 6'11" 265 while someone like Blake Griffin is strictly a power forward at 6'10" 251. I would tend to agree that they're aren't many good true centers. However, with the definition shifting as the league moves away from the lumbering brutes combined with with the difficulty in projecting young big men and I'd have a hard time concluding that there aren't any good ones on the horizon. Is Anthony Davis a center if he bulks up to like 250? What about Perry Jones III? He's probably more in the Kevin Garnett mold, but he's already listed at 6'11" 235. Clearly he has the height and length. What about Andre Drummond or Isaiah Austin? Those guys clearly have the tools to get there. It's just so hard to know with young big men, they usually take a while to develop. Plus it seems like a large part of the argument is the semantics of whether a guy is really a center or not. If you're looking for the next Shaq, yeah, it's going to be a while. But there are so many long, athletic big men that eventually you're going to find a few good ones. I was thinking along the lines of the two-way dominant centers you could build your franchise around. Seems like those days are long gone.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:13 PM) Hahaha. But seriously...good luck to him. He performed every time we needed him to, frankly. Yes, he filled the role of garbage sacrificial lamb whenever we were getting blown out or needed an emergency start.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) The Trout pick doesn't really bother me that much. A lot of teams missed on Trout not just the Sox. Trout was real raw and everything just clicked for him after being drafted. Mitchell was on the way to being a real good baseball player before getting hurt. I don't like the "a lot of teams passed up on" X player excuse. Every team has different needs, philosophies, budget, etc. The White Sox don't get to play that card considering their draft history over the last decade.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:52 PM) Really JPN? So, the Gold Glove caliber defense and slightly under 2B average offense of Gordon Beckham is worse than the .002 BA points higher Smoak who plays at an offensive position. Yes, Gordon is an easy call. To JPN's credit, I know he wanted Smoak. Smoak just recently broke out of an Adam Dunn-like 1/32 funk. So that obviously brought his numbers down. Before that he was performing admirably. I'd say he's a better 'prospect' than Beckham at this point. More power, plate discipline, switch hitter.

Gavin's 2009 ERA vs Twins: 5.27 Gavin's 2010 ERA vs Twins: 8.06 Gavin's 2011 ERA vs Twins (thus far): 4.50 (gave up 11 hits in 8 IP) Suffice it to say Gavin has been poopycock against the Twins the last 2+ years.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:33 PM) Somebody did not check a box...oh wait that was the Bears.....or did not fax something in time....oh wait that was the Hawks Odd to just give him away Why? You can always buy a $3 hot dog at the park. That's about all he's worth.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) and aren't they both white? That's racism. I demand LH be suspended at once. Yeah, that is kinda strange.

Kudos to the Angels. They now have arguably the two fastest guys in baseball.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 01:46 PM) seems like that's 3 serviceable relievers we've lost this season. But I'm sure some will say I'm over-estimating their worth. Green? I'm serious. I have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) How cool would it be to have Hunter Pence? I'd imagine it'd be as cool as f***ing the girl in your avy.

I imagine Greg Oden will be announcing his retirement this time next year. The C position will never be dominant again.

Thought I'd bump this due to the one year anniversary of the Decision. Holy s*** I went crazy. Actually started the day before when the Heat got Wade and Bosh. The real madness starts on page 287. And Steve, never predict anything in life again.

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) Man, I just saw the vid of Mike Trout getting drafted for the first time. No matter what fan you are, that experience had to have bring a smile to you. http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=4959213 Amazing. And awesome!!!! And sad. Two picks after we took Mitchell.

That kid ain't gonna want to ever go to another baseball game for the rest of his life.

WTH? Didn't this happen last year?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 10:20 PM) We're actually 1st in the AL in defense. Quentin and Beckham have improved pretty dramatically. Morel's been very solid since the first month. Where we have seen fall-offs is with Pierre, Rios and Ramirez, but it's still a very good defensive team. Ramirez is still one of the best overall defensive shortstops in the game and Rios is still above-average. AJ has his obvious throwing issues (half of it is on the pitchers not holding anyone except for Buehrle and Danks), but he's a solid game-caller and on-field general. You must be talking fielding%? No way you can be talking about DRS or UZR. Tampa has easily been the best defense in the league this year.

Cabrera > Ramirez

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) Walkoff grand slam for Hafner. Great night all-around.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 09:35 PM) I'm just praying he retires at the end of the year. .150 is right around the corner. Not sure I've ever seen a regular hitting in the .150's this late in the season.