Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 08:04 PM) He also had a problem with the n and other f word. I must've missed that one. I might not be here had I been around for that.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 07:40 PM) Anyone still think Arizona shouldn't be in the tourney? They've got two potential lottery picks, a former 5-star recruit and one of the better point guards in the country. Yes, they should be in the tourney.

LMAO@WF. Getting their asses waxed by Cleveland f***ing state. It's still early, but my bracket goes up in flames if they lose tonight. I just can't figure this team out.

QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:26 PM) This thread was a fantastic idea. I'm really glad I get to see some of the old names. I kinda miss BrandoFan and all the arguments he would start though Funny thing about Brandofan is I actually thought he was a very knowledgeable poster who backed up his views/opinions in great depth. The problem was when you dared to even slightly disagree with him.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) There's actually not even really that much love for him, just people that think he can be a decent player and are realistic about how much he's underachieving or say he's better than Owens/Wise. That "love" only exists in the minds of the people that are irrational about how much they hate him and won't entertain any other argument besides "omg he's so f***ing horrible" or mock the idea that he's a plus defender. BA could murder my family and I would still give him his props as far as being a very gifted defender. I don't see how anybody can dispute that.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:22 PM) Am I speaking Spanish?? I have not once said I expect a victory. All I know is that Ben Woodside on North Dakota State Tech.com is a f***in baller. You're not as fun as you used to be. lol. I liked it better when you talked crazy s*** every day. Now it's like you're surprised when Kansas wins. Does the old Jimbo return next year with Robinson/Johnson comin' in?

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:17 PM) You don't see me saying its an easy victory. Did you see Chris Wright? Dude is a beast. Have fun with him.

I'm 20/24 so far. I had Butler, Illinois, West Virgina and VCU winning. Only one I regret is taking Illinois. I really didn't expect them to win but my homerism kicked in.

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 20, 2009 -> 04:01 PM) West Virginia losing really opens up the bracket for Kansas to make the Elite 8. Don't sleep on Dayton (I picked them to lose to WV, but didn't feel good about it at all). I do follow quite a bit of A-10 ball. Dayton causes a ton of problems for teams defensively with their length/athleticism. They're also very deep.

Does anybody want to play Syracuse right now? Unbelievable how deep the Big East is. I'm sure many would agree 'Cuse is a top 20 team in the country. Yet they're probably not a top 5 team in their own conference.

And Marquette falling apart at the seams. Shame. I thought they were a legitimate FF contender with a healthy James.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) 7 minutes to go up 4 and not one part of you thought they had a chance to pull it off? Nope. Unlike most, I think Memphis is a top 5 team in the country. I just couldn't see them going out like that. They obviously took CSN for granted. Once it was time for them to make their move, order was restored.

Oh, well. You know what they say: No expectations=no disappointment. This team was severely flawed even with Chet. Without him? We really had no chance. The comeback at the end was nice. Of course, the terrible play before that was brutal. Good season overall. Talent wise, I'd rank us below MSU, Purdue, OSU, PSU and UM from our conference. That alone should tell you how much we overachieved this year. Can't wait until Brandon Paul and the boys get here.

Never thought for a second Memphis would lose.

QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 12:48 PM) Oops forgot to edit my Soxtalk bracket, one right so far, should be 2 as I had AM in all others. Butler played awful, couldnt hit from arc and turned ball over too much too early in game. They started off terribly. Played a much better second half (LSU had no answer for Matt Howard until he fouled out). Thorton/Mitchell delivered for LSU. Good game overall.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Mar 19, 2009 -> 12:37 PM) Not so much, also my 1st loss of the day. Same here. Marcus Thornton was a MAN today. I thought the key to the game was Temple pretty much shutting down Gordon Hayward.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 06:41 PM) I've got Pitt, Oklahoma, Wake Forest and Memphis. Pitt is my NC over WF. I'll probably change my mind on this 50 times between now and Thursday. Well, after going back and fourth on this every waking moment since the field was set, I've decided to stick with my original FF picks. I know deep down inside WF is probably going to let me down. I'm just too mesmerized by their disgusting dearth of talent.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 18, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) I wasn't on this board then, but I'm about halfway through it now, and I feel like I'm witnessing a brutal rape in progress. Ever see "The Accused" starring Jodie Foster? Very similar.

Jabroni would easily have 100,000+ posts right now had he not been banned. And that is no exaggeration. His posts had posts. And whatever happened to CWSGUY406? He was a fine poster who vanished after 2007.

I'll just end my thoughts on this subject (like many have said, this is a tired topic and should be put to rest) by saying that I think Chris Young to this point is beyond a shadow of a doubt a better player than BA and at 25 can get better. Brian's upside? I don't know. We haven't seen anything from him yet. We haven't even seen flashes. And it's not simply a case of "The evil Ozzie won't play him more." Quite frankly, Brian has yet to make a case for himself to be an everyday player. He sucked in 2006. He's sent back down to triple AAA in 2007, and instead of making Ozzie look like a fool for going with Erstad, he produces a .255/.318/.435 line. Therefore justifying Ozzie's decision to go with Erstad (although Erstad obviously sucked). Last year, in a role in which he was put in a solid situation to succeed, (I.E. Ozzie cherry picking when he started against mostly mediocre pitching), still couldn't produce better than a .232/.272/.436 line. The excuses get tired after a while. It's on Brian, and only Brian, to force Ozzie's hand.

Wow, this didn't take as long as I thought it would. PHOENIX (MCT) -- You can’t hit the ball with the bat on your shoulder. Sure, Ken Williams knew he was taking a risk when he traded Chris Young to the Arizona Diamondbacks two years ago. He was living dangerously, and he knew it, but he couldn’t foresee how little impact Javier Vazquez would have on the White Sox. Nor could he know that Brian Anderson would suffer an allergic reaction to big-league pitching. Still, in the spring of 2006, when he was still dreaming of a long run atop the American League, Williams acknowledged the risks he was taking in regularly trading young talent for known quantities like Vazquez. “One of these deals is going to come back to haunt us,” Williams said during a talk at the Sox’s Tucson minor-league complex. “It’s part of the price that we pay to try to win on a consistent basis, not just every now and then. I know that’s going to happen. There’s going to be a guy who shows up in the ESPN highlights all the time, making me get sick to my stomach. Chris could be that guy. He’s a really good player, but not the only one we’ve got.” http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/08...c0357539409.prt The bold is pretty cut and dry to me. Kenny and his people messed up. It happens. Just recognize it and move on.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 10:24 PM) The Javy trade was fair value for both sides and seemed like a great move to run out possibly the best rotation in baseball at the time. Why aren't you ragging on the Thome deal then? That's the deal that sent Rowand out of here and put Anderson in CF. Young wouldn't have made this team until the 2007 season anyway. The Javy trade has nothing to do with the Sox making a poor decision starting Brian every day. In fact, they never said he was ready, I believe they have always said the opposite. They said going into the season that all Brian had to do was play D and whatever he could contribute offensively would have been a bonus. But guess what? They threw him under the bus by I believe mid-May. And if you look at the potency of the lineup of the '06 squad, Anderson was NEVER a reason to complain. The problem with that team was the pitching, most notably the front of the bullpen. All Brian did out there was help the pitching, which was the biggest weakness on the team. Ozzie Guillen started Rob Mackowiak that season because Ozzie is prone to stupid baseball decisions. When you can't pitch, the last thing you do is weaken your defense for more offense. C'mon, KP. Do you really believe the expectation for Brian was that as long as he played solid defense that he could hit .175-.200 and it would be acceptable? That's unacceptable for a team coming off a title. The Sox thought they were dealing from a position of strength. I clearly remember Kenny stating that one of the reasons he felt so confident in trading Rowand/Young was because they felt BA was ready. I'll look for quotes later.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 10:05 PM) But thats not what HE is saying. He is saying that YOUNG hasnt lived up to his potential yet, and has been over hyped thus far. YOURE saying that the Sox would be better off with him. Both sides are probably true, but youre not arguing what he is trying to say. I get what he's saying. And what I'm saying is that I don't have to wait to see if Young becomes Grady Sizemore the sequel to determine if the trade was a bad one. It turned bad the minute Kenny and co determined that Brian Anderson was ready to take over in 2006. Which obviously wasn't anywhere near the case.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) Hes saying that so far Young hasnt lived up to the hype, and to tell him when he does, but so far he hasnt. I think thats pretty simple. QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) Exactly what I was saying, thank you. And what I'm saying is that we've had one of the worst CF situations in all of baseball the last 3 years. And our only options currently are Jerry Owens, Dewayne Wise and Brian Anderson. So that right there, regardless of the fact that Jerry Owens hasn't lived up to the "hype", is why the trade can be deemed a bad one.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Mar 16, 2009 -> 09:15 PM) I just don't see what everyone else sees in Young, ever since he passed the requisite number of MLB ABs to see what kind of player he is. Like I said, come wake me up if he ever actually lives up to that hype. So players are peaking at 25 now?