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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jan 3, 2013 -> 04:40 PM) I hope the Sox make a trade for Carlos Gonzalez Ditto! The dude can play ball! Hell at this point I would be happy to see Hahn make some sort of bold move. This team pretty much as is fell short of Detroit, now you take away AJ's run production, I think we even have a tougher hill to climb.
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 29, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) Gonzalez home/road splits shows he loves hitting at Coors. I'd think twice before committing to the $70M he's owed over the next 5 years. The $ is serious.... BUT the Cell is the AL version of Coors... I think he will be fine.
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The Rockies are throwing Carlos Gonzalez's name out there. They need young pitching... this could be option to add that lefty bat to our lineup. The dude can play! Also, Kubel seems to be coveted by White Sox management. Bruce Levine thinks something may happen there.... An outfield with Kubel, Gonzalez and Rios wouldn't be too bad. It would also balance our lineup as well.....
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QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 28, 2012 -> 03:02 PM) Good point. And unless Hahn makes a deal and brings in a quality infielder that fits another hole (LH bat), there would be no sense in trading Beckham. To me it makes the most sense to deal an OF. Beckham does not hurt the team defensively regardless of his below average bat. We have been super patient with him- it really makes no sense to deal him at this point. Hopefully he can turn things around with the bat this summer.
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I think a major trade is going to happen soon. It has been way too quiet on these parts for over a month! Hahn has pretty solid pieces to move in Viciedo, Beckham, Floyd and possibly De Aza... I expect 2 out of those 4 to be dealt soon. My guess would be Viciedo and Floyd will be the ones traded. BUT to go along with this thread- here is my 2013 starting lineup if the season started today: De Aza CF Beckham 2B Rios RF Dunn DH/1B Konerko 1B/DH Ramirez SS Keppinger 3B Viciedo LF Flowers C
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QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 26, 2012 -> 07:54 AM) I was there, too. What a fantastic game and a great play by AJ. I'll miss him for sure, and my daughter was devastated when I told her the news. She loves AJ and always chose #12 for her softball jerseys. There's no doubt he was instrumental in the Sox winning the World Series, but he brought his "play as hard you can" attitude every day. There are so many things he did over the years from big homeruns to little things that just irritated the other team. He's always been the guy you hate on other teams, but I have no doubt he will get quite an ovation when he returns to the Cell next year (for his first at-bat anyway). I think Flowers will be okay. I imagine he will be a better hitter with more consistent playing time, and we already know he's got a ton of power. He could be a .250ish hitter with 20+ HRs. Or he could hit more homeruns with a lower average. We'll have to wait and see. I'm not sure about a back-up for him, though. I wonder if we'll see a minor move to acquire a decent back-up. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought back Miguel Olivo, which wouldn't be a bad thing.
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I am making a prediction...the Sox will make a BIG move this week-end! It has been WAY too quiet!
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I thought the Yankees wanted to get younger? Youkilis, Pettite, Rivera... hmmm?
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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Dec 8, 2012 -> 12:22 PM) Ok, I just won't post what I hear. Well if you hear news from a legitimate source, by all means we want you to post info. All lemon wants to know its where your source comes from. Its a good question. Believe me, if this upton stuff is true- nobody will be more excited than me!
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I do think the White Sox will get another OF. I haven't read through this entire post, is there validity to this Upton discussion or is it just merely speculation? I have been an Upton fan for a long time. He would be a great addition to this lineup. I'm assuming they can get decent chips back for a Viciedo deal which can eventually lead to a bigger deal.... It is interesting to say the least that they are floating both him and De Aza around right now... Whats the latest with the AJ talks?
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A part of me wants to give Flowers a full season to prove his worth. Another part of me is really scared of all those strike outs coming from his at bats. We already have that issue with Dunn. If AJ's price-tag comes down, lock him up! If not, I guess we should take our chances with Flowers....
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How much are you willing to offer Josh Hamilton?
GreatScott82 replied to South Paw's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I do think we will have a completely different outfield this year but i do NOT want to spend 100 million on Hamilton. -
QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Nov 10, 2012 -> 09:54 AM) According to CSNChicago.com White Sox Insider Dan Hayes, Viciedo is one of several White Sox youngsters who may be available. As evidence, Hayes cited “four rival executives” who believe that Hahn is “open” to trading the young left fielder. Make no mistake about it; Viciedo’s days in a White Sox uniform could be numbered because of his contract status. Hayes pointed out in his article that “Viciedo’s contract stipulates he must earn 80 percent of the $3.5 million he pulled in last season, which equates to $2.8 million.” Factor in the $1 million pro-rated share of his $4 million signing bonus and Viciedo stands to get, at minimum, a $300,000 raise in 2013. At $3.8 million, he may be a bit out of Hahn’s price range. Now, if Viciedo’s price tag does necessitate a move, what is Hahn’s best option? A three-team trade, of course, and Hahn is already thinking the same thing. Hahn was quoted in the Chicago Tribune on Thursday saying that the conversations he’s had at the general managers meetings in California “may lead to some three-way deals in the coming weeks." One potential trade scenario would involve the Houston Astros and the San Diego Padres. -The Padres receive Asher Wojciechowski (2-2 with a 2.06 ERA in eight starts at Double-A Corpus Christi) from the Astros and Gavin Floyd from the White Sox -The Astros acquire Viciedo and Double-A pitcher Nestor Molina from the White Sox -The White Sox get third baseman Chase Headley and a prospect (anyone will do) from the Padres. As important as the players involved are, a three-team trade does something that may be even more so. See, by combining Floyd’s $9.5 million salary with Viciedo’s, Hahn would shave a potential total of $13.3 million from the White Sox' payroll. Hahn could then use that money to lock up Alejandro De Aza into a long-term contract and sign Headley to an extension with money to spare. Outside-the-box thinking, to be sure, but this is an example of what adding Viciedo in a trade could do. In all fairness, this column is not advocating for a trade. In fact, an argument can be made that Viciedo is someone to build the future around. He is young, talented and full of potential. If Viciedo’s worth is put into this context, however, trading him could be a great idea. I brought up the possible trade for Headley awhile back. It makes perfect sense for us. It fills a position for years to come. A position that we have no talent at in the farm, a position that has limited talent in the free agent market. I wouldn't mind dealing Viciedo because OF spots are easier to fill than infield spots and we do have some OF talent in the farm if they chose to go that route.
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Blogger Call: Open Discussion with Rick Hahn
GreatScott82 replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Jake @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) I don't think we'll make a splash just to do it. I'm okay with bringing Youk in at a reasonable price instead of selling the farm for someone like Moustakas (who would be AWESOME on the right deal) Making a splash is what this team needs. The team as is, will still come in 2nd to Detroit. -
Blogger Call: Open Discussion with Rick Hahn
GreatScott82 replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 06:08 PM) In the ESPN article it sounds like Rick Hahn doesnt seem optimistic that they will find an upgrade at 3rd base. Given that the market is so poor. If he did learn anything from KW- its to fly under the radar and to put up smoke screens. I don't buy it! -
Blogger Call: Open Discussion with Rick Hahn
GreatScott82 replied to NorthSideSox72's topic in Pale Hose Talk
One thing I love about this organization is the amount of respect they give the fans. The fact he took time to answer some fan questions is really cool. The fact that they lowered prices on tix/parking is super cool too. I truly love being a fan of this organization and would love to see them bring home (at least) one more for J.R.! On a side note- it seems like they are looking hard for a new 3b. This is awesome! My biggest fear was for them to take another chance with Morel or a cheap flash in the pan type option. I really hope they do look into young talent like Chase Headley. But if the return price is too high, I wouldn't mind them bringing back Youk at the right price. I just have a feeling that Hahn will pull off some blockbuster soon in regards to addressing the 3b spot. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of the following dealt at this point in a mega deal (Ramirez, Beckham, Viciedo, Floyd or Rios) -
QUOTE (Cali @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:34 PM) I really hope Gavin is being held out as trade bait. I don't want him or his loser mentality in this rotation anymore. I disagree. I think Gavin can have a 2005 Garland type season in 2013. Like Garland, Floyd will be slotted in the 4th slot.
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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:40 PM) Chase Headley is younger, cheaper, and better than Alex Rios. Why in the world would the Padres give him up for Rios? I know everyone would love to see Headley at 3rd on the South Side, but I think a lot of people are underestimating his value. I mentioned in my post that Rios would be a part of a package that can help bring Headley over. They would likely have to part ways with Quintana and another prospect or two. Rios is coming off a solid year- which does make him attractive to buyers.
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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:18 PM) Me too man! We haven't had a good #3 hitter since Quentin. We need a badass to push Dunn down in the order to 6 or something so everyone is happy. I hope Hahn goes after one. What kind of big name are you thinking? Personally I think the Sox should sell high on Rios. If you look at his past 4 seasons its been off-on-off-on. This team can't afford another 'off' year out of him. I wouldn't mind shipping him off to SD in a package for 3B Chase Headley. In a separate deal, I can see them go strong after Jacoby Ellsbury. The Red Sox are in the process of rebuilding and would love to aqcuire younger talent for their talented OF. Red Sox fans also share the same thoughts: http://news.yahoo.com/time-red-sox-trade-j...00571--mlb.html
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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:13 PM) Gonzo mentioned that in the Trib the other day too. My guess is, that is plan B or C. But we'll find out. I hope its plan E
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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:09 PM) I've a feeling A Rod will be in a Sox uniform. certainly a possibility if Hahn can get creative with that horrible contract.
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QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Oct 30, 2012 -> 06:03 PM) keithlaw @keithlaw Peavy was 6th on my free agent rankings. So, yeah, that's a pretty slick move by the White Sox. I'm still expecting Hahn to make some sort of bold move this fall! Some sort of big name will be dealt in a package for another big time player.....
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This is a solid deal. They are not breaking the bank on a guy like Greinke and Peavy can have similar results. I really hope the dude can stay healthy like he did in 2012. And call me crazy (not call me maybe), but I also like the Floyd deal. There is a premium on starting pitching these days and Gavin finished the season strong. As a 4th starter in this rotation, he can do very good things. Next on the list: 1) Address the catcher spot. Do they re-sign AJ? 2) Whats going on with 3b? (re-sign Youk, sign a veteran like Chavez or even go after ARod?) 3) Sell high on Rios or Dunn? 4) Bullpen help? Do we stick with Reed or do we go after a guy like Soria who is coming off major surgery? I LOVE HOTSTOVE season!
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There is no question that Ozzie lost his touch. I am curious to see what Robin can do with a great starting rotation and more talented players.... he clearly won more games with less talent in 2012. I wonder what Hahn will do to build on that?
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The Sox experience is great the way it is. Obviously having restaurants and bars around the ballpark would be HUGE for fan postgame experiences. But the bicardi at the park was a step in that direction. I love what the organization is doing to accommodate the fan base for all ages. They lowered prices on parking and tickets. That is fantastic! What this organization needs is a right handed ACE and a 3B. I wouldn't mind a veteran closer as well.
