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QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 09:01 AM) Anyone else encouraged by the return K-Rod? Delemonico isn't a bad prospect at all... It is encouraging. After reading an article about the 'lack of sellers' due to the addition of that extra wild card spot, there are currently only 6 true sellers right now. So currently, there are 24 other teams who claim to be buyers. Not only that, but most of those buyers are seeking more pitching and a power bat. We currently have both in Rios and Peavy. I really hope Rick Hahn doesn't squander this opportunity to take advantage of a desperate market. Our farm is weak, our offense is bad- we have a golden opportunity to improve both this summer while at the same time shed some significant salary along the way.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 08:36 AM) I don't think the Sox would turn down this offer, and I don't think the Cardinals would make this offer. Unless they know something we don't know about the guy... from the outside looking in, he looks like a very good pitcher in the making.

One thing I would like to happen before we deal Ramirez is trading for his replacement. My #1 acquisition request would be to acquire Chris Owings from AZ. He is ready to contribute immediately on any big league roster. I really hope Hahn feels the same way. From what I hear, the DBacks would love to bring in Peavy. Not only to compete this year, but next year as well. Once a trade for Peavy goes down and we have our Ramirez replacement, I say make a counter offer to St. LOUIS. I would ask for Michael Wacha in exchange for Ramirez and Lindstrom. Michael Wacha us sniffing the majors and can replace Peavys spot in the rotation for now.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 05:45 PM) How many times in the past 20 years have the Sox likely had this much free payroll and such a desperate need for impact bats? Sure history indicates one thing, but this isn't the White Sox of the past 20 years who had some combinations of Frank Thomas, Robin Ventura, Ray Durham, Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Lee, Paul Konerko, Jermaine Dye, and so forth. This White Sox team is one of the sorriest offensive teams in at least my history of watching the Sox. To say that the White Sox aren't going to spend money on impact offensive bats in free agency and to use "history" as the reasoning is absurd in my mind. If anything, history shows the White Sox are willing to spend money on impact bats in free agency when they need to, as they showed that in 2010 with Dunn (needed a power hitting lefty to replace Thome) and in 1997 with Belle (needed a power bat in the OF). I'm not saying the Sox will spend the money, no one knows whats going to happen, but if anything I'd say "history" points to the Sox signing at least one impact bat. I think the Sox will ultimately sign two bats. They just are not the full blown rebuild type of team.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 11:54 AM) With Grilli out for the season, does a trade with the Pirates make more sense tha ever, given that we can package a reliever along with Rios and fill two holes for them? Makes sense to me.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) Lol yeah I think we all are. It shouldn't be long before something happens. At least I hope. Hahn has yet to make his 'big move' in the GM seat so who knows.

Trade #1) I'm predicting Peavy gets dealt since he is the most coveted starting pitcher in the market right now going into the deadline. I also expect Crain to be dealt as well. It could in a package to AZ like beautox said. A deal centered around Owings and some pitching would make me very happy. Trade #2) I also predict the Sox to try their best to deal Alexei to St. Louis. Once we pick up Owings it makes trading Ramirez much more realistic and St. Louis really needs an upgrade at SS. Despite his down season defensively, he can still bring us back a decent prospect or two. Trade #3) The Sox trade Rios to Pittsburgh right at the deadline with cash for Polanco and one mid pitching prospect.

Don't get me wrong, I want to get the highest possible pick going into next years draft. However- I LOVE beating the stupid Tigers! Should be a fun pitching match up tonight!

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 21, 2013 -> 05:36 AM) It makes sense that not every team wants their interest publicized, hoping the price in terms of prospects doesn't get crazy high. The greater number of teams, the more desperate some will be to overpay. It'll be interesting to see what scouts are still around today, or for Jakes next start. I agree. I wouldn't be upset if they kept Jake. Our pitching has been the one bright spot this year. We just need to restock and reload the offense. Make some smart trades for guys like Owings and Polanco, and sign 2 free agents (granderson, moreau) and we can be back at a competitive level.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 21, 2013 -> 07:48 AM) Keeping Rios in his contract year might not hurt as much as some people think. He will still have trade value in 7/2014. You may be right. However, Rios has a history of having some down years. 2009 , 2011 etc.. The time to sell rios is now. We cant afford to take that chance. His value is peaking.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:30 PM) What did Toronto get for him? They got over 50 million dollars back....

Interesting information regarding Owings. http://www.faketeams.com/2013/7/8/4499500/...na-diamondbacks Apparently, there is no room for Owings on the DBack MLB roster. I can definitely see AZ using him in a major trade. I think a trade of Peavy for Owings is very possible. Even more possible than the projected Rios for Polanco rumored deal.... Stay tuned, Saturday's game will be a huge indication if Peavy is healthy or not.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:52 AM) I'd love this deadline if we got Polanco and Owings from Phoenix (for Peavy) I would definitely give Hahn major props if he pulled that off and that would put us in a nice situation prospect wise moving forward.

What would be better, making a package offer of two or more of our veterans OR making separate deals with different teams for individual players? Would we have a better chance of obtaining top 20 prospects by combining vets?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 13, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) It's a nice secondary logo for an arm patch. It's simple, no need to re-design something that's been there since (I'm not sure when, early 90s?). Way off, lol. Agreed. I liked the secondary logo on the gray away uniforms. They won the world series in that exact uniform...why mess with that?! The primary logo on the shoulder does look funny on the road uniform.

We got something for a reliever clearly on the decline and hus contract us up after this season. Jacobs is a boom or bust type prospect. . Bur imo its a risk worth taking a look at. We really have nothing exciting down in the farm OF wise anyway. I guess Thompson may continue tto progress but everyone else is doing terrible.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 04:21 PM) That's just a REALLY difficult transition. Juan Uribe, Vizquel...they could go back and forth, Ozuna (just not SS), Eduardo Escobar, etc. But we saw what happened when they tried Teahen there (as well as in KC)....and Morel at SS/2B is the same kind of stretch. You could see Morel POSSIBLY playing 2B. But SS, no way, except as an emergency option. It would be the equivalent of Adam Dunn running the option or wishbone/flexbone for an Arena League football team. Agreed. Beckham will be our 2B for awhile and he should be. He is getting better and better offensively, no need to move him at this point. I understand the anxiety from fans for a reasonable SS replacement for Ramirez, since Hahn will likely deal him, but i'll just assume Hahn will find a prospect to fill that hole for now.

Delgado is only 23 years old. Seems like a Coop type project. I wouldn't mind him being apart of such a deal. However, they would HAVE to throw in a mid to high prospect as well. We are looking for offense so acquiring an OF/INF would be a must.

Morneau also intrigues me. If that guy can return to 75% of his old form- he can provide a nice offensive punch for this lineup.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 11, 2013 -> 12:44 PM) This idea is what frightens me. Sale is exactly the ace-caliber starting pitcher you'd want anchoring your rotation -- but are we in any position to compete in 2014? 2015? If we're holding onto him, Hahn may as well do everything within his power to build the team to compete. It's useless keeping Sale for the next several years and risk depleting his value if Hahn cannot convince himself that we're in no better position to atleast win the division. Very good post. The idea of losing Sale frightens me also. I guess it simply will all depend on how long of a retooling process they would like to endure. Im assuming next year will be a developing year for the newly acquired young guys. However, if the organization decides to make a run at it in 2015, id say you have to keep him. Its tricky. If a team offers three can't miss top 50 prospects, we would be foolish not to explore that possibility.

21 days left until the deadline. So far the storm is silent...

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 10, 2013 -> 06:03 AM) Hopefully everybody had their top scouts watching Rios and Dunn swing the bat. Hahn needs to bring his A game these next 3 weeks to prove what type a GM he is. Yep. I have reserved all remaining judgements on the guy until after the trade deadline. Hopefully he can make some noise that can set us up nicely in a 2 to 3 years.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 04:26 PM) You wonder if it has to do with who needs to be showcased, etc or if it is more on moves that are about to come up. Very interesting. I keep waiting for the first move to be made. 3 weeks left until the deadline. Hahn has a lot of work to do. Time to clean up this mess. TImes a ticking. ...

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I see the Pirates organization as one trying to emulate the Rays. When have the Rays, since 2008, made a big midseason move? Pittsburgh has been saving up $$ for years, letting free agents walk year by year for the past 20+ seasons. Recently over the past 5 years or so they have been drafting really well and now their patience is FINALLY paying off. I'd say if there is ever time where the Pirates go for it and spends a little cash along the way, that time is now. What a year they are having! I actually would NOT be surprised if they make a deal for Rios. He would make an excellent addition for 1.5 seasons at a relatively expensive salary, but one they can afford nonetheless.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 9, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) The White Sox didn't have anything approximating a 5th starter that year (2003), and the Twins hit paydirt on a cheap FA deal with Kenny The Gambler Rogers. Also, that was the year we tried Koch as the closer and it was a complete disaster, along with Gordon/Marte later in the year. You are right! Dan Wright won 14 games in 2002 but tanked in 2003 in the 5th starter role. I think they let guys like Schoenweiss, Glover and Ginter attempt the 5th starter role that year. We just could not get over that Minnesota hump!