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QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) Shaq out for the year Latest article of espn mentions nothing of that. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1998007 Edit: Just saw it on espn news. Edit: On bbb people seem to believe that espn got their infomation from this article which seems to be fake. http://miami.dolem.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/10968685.htm

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) i chose other and he reminds me of a young latrell sprewell, both came off the bench in the beginning of their careers and sprewel sort of shot just as wel as gordon now is No. Sprewell played 77 games his first year in the league and started 69 of them so there is really no comparison that way. Sprewell has also never shot over 40% from the three point line. Gordon is yet to choke anyone or complain he does not get paid enough to feed his family.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:30 PM) Hinrich is very much a pass first, shoot second kind of guy. Don't think you can call him that. When i think of pass first guards i think of brevin knight, t.j. ford, etc. He leads the team in shots per game which is a joke. Not saying it is his fault he is just doing what he is told to do i assume. But deng, curry, gordon, pike, whoever all need to start taking some shots away from him.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) Just trying to keep with the boards tradtion

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:15 PM) I'm not a big Hinrich fan, so you won't get much arguement out of me there. The one thing he does well is distribute the ball. But he plays OK defense, his big problem being he gets caught a step behind and has to take flops to try to draw calls. As a shooter, he takes much better shots than Gordon does (he doesn't force anything) but he just is an awful shooter. Hinrich is known as being one of the best perimeter defenders in the nba. Also, hinrich takes much better shots than gordon? Whenever he drives he just throws the ball up at the rim hoping it goes in. Gordon on the other hand has a clue of where the rim is. Gordon has had a few questionable shots but i am willing to say he takes better shots ( not forcing anything).

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 02:02 PM) Where do you get $30+ million to spend? Um, his ass. Didn't he think we had 40 something million to spend on free agents this winter?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) Ben isn't even "not exactly very good on defense" or he would be getting 40 minutes a night. Plain and simple. It doesn't do any good to score 25 a night when you give up 35 on the other end of the floor. It is the same reason that Tyson Chandler is in a game during the stretch run, and Eddy Curry is on the bench waving a towel. Gordon's defense or lack there of is blown out of proportion. So has nowitzki's defense up until this year. Reason being is their offense is just that much superior to their defense. You telling me you won't start nowitzki because of his supposedly bad defense? Whoever tells me that is insane. Look at who we started at center all last year and his excellent defense. Gordon has two real problems. One he gets posted up and so do hinrich/duhon. He always stays in front of whoever he is guarding. Not like he is getting burned to the basket all the time. What i am asking from gordon is to stay in front of the defender and get a hand in people's faces. Which he does. With gordon skiles has too much of a short leash. Gordon misses three shots he sits for 14 minutes. Hinrich goes 4-19 he plays 43 minutes. No one can use the excuse that he was left in there because he was doing a good job against wade since wade was superior in every aspect of the game last night.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) Unless he learns how to defend PGs in the NBA, yes. Ben looks like he is going to be able to play a Vinnie Johnson type roll in the NBA and that is fine by me. The guy is instant offense. Hopefully in his maturation, Skiles can imbed some defensive principles and techniques in him, then Ben will get 40 minutes a night. Well i know that if defense was so important to most coaches third string guys would be the starters on most teams. Since alot of the good offensive players are not exactly very good on defense.

Why not trade gordon for tyronn lue while we are at it.

I think when i tis all said and down with gordon will be a michael finley type player. Both are and can be explosive scorers. Neither do anything well but that. Both have bad defense and that is probally an understatement. Niether get assists/steals/ pass well, etc. Both can shoot free throws pretty well, throw down, drible well ( well not so much for finley now). Only glaring difference i see so far is turning the ball over.

QUOTE(ChiSoxFan @ Feb 23, 2005 -> 12:00 PM) That is exactly what i was doing when i read that. Ray allen a cancer? Come on now.

This is too good to not share with others.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Nobody thought Boykins or Luke Ridnour would be productive pros and they have been. You sure about that?

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 11:35 PM) And your right... Dumb phillies for overpaying for his services. I really hope we get him just for you.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) Boy, he would have been a real nice addition to this team before Iguchi was added. I was all for a scenario in which Polanco played both 2B/3B, and you basically play the hot bat between Crede/Harris/Polanco. That said, I'm not b****ing that we got Iguchi. I think he could be a possibility if Crede doesn't produce well early in the season. He would be an ideal #2 hitter for this team, and a real good safety-net as a leadoff hitter incase Podsednik doesn't produce... Even more of a reason to take a look at him is that he can play short as addison said. We finally would not have our back up third baseman be our starting short stop and are back up short stop would not be a rookie who cannot take a walk if his life depended on it. If there was a to get them to eat say two million of his salary the sox would have to make the move for him.

QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 09:55 PM) Dumb phillies ? I though polanco sucks.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 09:39 PM) yeah they added Grudz. It was a pretty misguided choice to turn down a multi-year deal to play with his best friend, Albert Pujols. I'd love to have Polanco here, btu short of bringing him into play thrid, there really isn't a place. When did he turn this down?

Curry-6-12, 16 points, 0 offensive rebounds, 3 defensive rebounds, 1 steal. Chandler-3-4, 6 points, 7 offensive rebounds 5 defensive rebounds, 4 steals. You tell me which is more valuable.

QUOTE(Brian @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 10:13 PM) We got lucky that Shaq got hurt. No doubt. If he was healthy we lose by 20. His presence out there means that much. By the way. Say hello to the sixth seed.

We should all bow to paxson. The rookies tonight scored more than half of our points tonight. Also, curry= teh sux0rs. Duhon, gordon, and hinrich all out rebounded him.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 10:08 PM) Which is exactly why he starts. He's the guy that gets the offense going, while playing good D on the point. I love Du. If gordon keeps doing what he is doing. Can you still sit him?

Wade nails a three and skiles calls a time out. Bulls up 100-95 with about a minute and a half left.

Omg.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Feb 22, 2005 -> 09:53 PM) STFU, God Damn you can be annyoing in game threads. All you can do is b**** about Zang and when were down, then we tie it up, then take the lead, and your no where to be found. STFU. Zhi zhi scoring at all is annoying too. Him nailing a three is even more annoying.

Gordon is not that bad.