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QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 07:07 PM) Peavy is NOT a #2 pitcher True he was ace level last year. No reason he can't get there if he's healthy.

rangers talking about Kubel. Justin Maxwell to KC

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) . There are still several Sox players that I don't want to watch play anymore. Wonder if we can get Profar for Troncoso

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 06:27 PM) I'll be laughing even harder when the tigers lose again in the world series, this time to the Dodgers. No they will lose first round to the Red Sox thanks to this trade.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 06:03 PM) Why? Rios' value is extremely low right now, and it's not like he's a terrible playelikely hat the Sox need to do everything ingetting ir power to get rid of. Some of these deals suggesting paying a majority of his remaining contract only to get an average prospect seems like a bad deal for the organization. Agreed. If we put in a bunch of cash, we better get a top prospect. At which point the other team has to justify giving that up for Alex Rios. Neither is likely to happen I would imagine. Not sure getting rid of Rios makes sense right now unless the market is better than we think. He does get more expensive if and when we trade him next year, but that's about it.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:41 PM) MLB network is about to analyze what the Sox received in the trade... They were trying to be nice but yeah that didn't sound too promising ha.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:56 PM) Hate to say it but I told you all Boston wouldn't give up the spects. I mentioned 2 names they were willing to give up , Iglesias and Middlebrooks and they gave up Iglesias. Yeah we all laughed at those "idiot" Red Sox fans earlier in this thread but they ended being correct.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:40 PM) The Red Sox pay the money. How is it a fleecing when they take on the dollar figure going to a 32-yr old with injury history? Each side has a certain amount of risk and things they turned down in order to do this deal Because no one in their right mind considers Peavy's contract a bad one. And they took it on by giving up a guy with a career .622 OPS...in the minors and nothing else of value. Really great deal for them. It's going to very tough for someone to top what they did.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:20 PM) I think the Sox got fair vallit, the Tigers didn't. But when you are in win-now mode, value isn't always of utmost importance. Yeah, I agree but my point is the Tigers being inept here opened the door for the Sox to do at least a little better. I don't think the Red Sox were going to back on not getting Peavy if we really pushed for another 10-15 guy in their system. They still would come out far ahead of anyone.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:04 PM) The only thing that bothers me is the Red Sox didn't give up much. Iglesias has two replacements ready to step in. I would have liked to see a Ranaudo-level prospect included. As it stands now it was Iglesias for Peavy straight up. Yep. Hard for someone to disagree with the this. The Tigers or Sox needed to push for more since the Red Sox got away with a straight fleecing.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) I haven't seen anything yet either. They sent down an OF when they called up Rienzo, so my guess is that they bring an OF back up to replace Peavy. Danks would be my guess. EDIT: Oh yeah, just saw the post above. If Wise is ready to come off the DL, then he's the one who will get that spot. I could be wrong but I think Wise has been ready and they kept telling him to find another injury until after the deadline

Wise.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:44 AM) It sounds like Peter Gammons got to you too! Cherington did a good job of finding a desperate contender so he could only give up a lower rated but major league ready player. Yeah Peter Gammons redeemed. The genius of the Red Sox has been restored, at least for the day. To be able to fleece not one, but two teams is impressive. Who was far and away the best prospect we got from them? ... Brandon Jacobs! Oh s*** but that was for the mediocre 38 year reliever, not best starting pitcher out there. Heck Jacobs was even more well though than Iglesias before he started hanging around David Ortiz suspiciously often. Good for the Red Sox. Would now much prefer them to win it all compared to most other AL contenders.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 06:35 AM) Welp, I can't say I am ecstatic but I am cautiously optimistic. Think we shouldsingle e gottenprospecte/a prospect(s) who was/were further along with a couple A ball lottery tickets. Yeah it is pretty shocking that the Tigers and White Sox both somehow let the Red Sox grab perhaps the best player on the market without giving up a single top ten prospect in their system. People made jokes that we were simply lucky to be talking to the sacred Red Sox, but looks like that was true afterall, ha. Their arrogant fans were right and then some. We will see what happens though. Doesn't mean it won't workout for us though.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:51 AM) What does that mean? He swings at everything and strikes out a lot? He will fit right in with our other minor league players.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:39 AM) Avisail Garcia is not worth 2.5 years of Jake Peavy. He's not even worth a half season of Jake Peavy. 3 middling prospects doesn't swing the deal back in our favor either. Failure of a trade for the Sox simply because we should've gotten more or just kept Peavy. Detroit is a massive winner in this, they dumped an overrated bum (that they know is overrated) on a division rival, shored up their IF defense and ensured they dont have to face Jake Peavy a bunch of times the next few seasons. Pretty damn smart. Agree on the first part. But Detroit is still a loser here. Red Sox just crushed everyone. Not sure how we let them by with a salary dump

Tomorrow is going to be interesting. Red Sox are huge deadline winners thus far. Going to be hard to beat. Maybe someone will get desperate.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:25 AM) The savings is real, that's a big part of it No denying that.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:16 AM) this is highly debatable Taking out the cash it's not debatable at all.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 05:03 AM) Oh come on...i don't think anyone can say it is terrible...a bit risky, but has a lot of reward potential...just have to hope Garcia pans out, then the rest would just be gravy. It is pretty awful. The package the Cubs got was indisputably better for an inferior pitcher and less of a market. Reading through this thread the package we got was lower than the lowest of expectations. That said I'm excited about the money if we put it back into the organization. Certainly the best part

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:58 AM) Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Ultimately a bad deal for us, but at least we made one. I can now sleep.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:50 AM) Pretty sure they just took advantage of the Rangers being desperate and Garza not being owed anything past this year. Really sounds like Peavy's additional year on his deal was more of a negative than a positive. Agreed. I do wish we waited a year, but I guess you're risking injury.

The Cubs absolutely schooled us here if the other three are no names.

: QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 04:43 AM) He's hitting 276 in low A as a 19 year old. Relax. I was joking

Cleuluis Rondon is the worst player ever.