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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) Haha, this post made me grit my teeth. I honestly can't wait until he's out of here. It will be a great day. And yet the worst thing he's done, IMO, is air some dirty laundry about Jenks. It's one thing to criticize on the field performance, but off the field stuff needs to be kept quiet by the organization.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 05:18 PM) To recap what I said yesterday, what I find most striking is that a single 0-2 stretch, on the heels of a 22-13 stretch, can cause the doomsayers to completely rule this board. Caulfield, you say the "fault lines" between Pierre and Viciedo have emerged this month. Setting aside Pierre's defense (which would be interesting to compare to Viciedo), what about his .286 avg, .365 obp, 4/1 SB/CS did you take exception to over the course of May? Certainly his aggregate stats have been bad, but what would you have had Ozzie do after a single bad month - pull him? After a .286/.365 May, he's going to pull him? Certainly he should be on a much shorter leash given his aggregate stats and regression to slump form maybe NOW, but characterizing this as a massive length of time that Viciedo should have been considered feels revisionist, especially given how people conveniently doubletalk regarding the effects of rushing other folks to the majors. Yes, I meant commensurate. You can't just put aside his defense, as that has single-handedly lost us three games this year. Kinda ironic how Lillibridge's defense has won us 2-3 games this year already. As for rushing Viciedo to the majors, I think that's ridiculous. He showed last year he belongs, he showed in ST he belongs, and he's putting up numbers in AAA that the rest of our pathetic farm system could only dream of. He's a major league caliber player who's playing in the minors, which Juan is the total opposite.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 14, 2011 -> 01:53 AM) Super 8 was amazing. It was a complete and blatant rip-off of E.T., sure, but I fail to see how that is a bad thing. I liked it, but wasn't hoping to love it. I just wish there was maybe 10-15 more minutes added to the story about the monster part of the movie.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 05:11 PM) They've got a disgusting young core in Stanton, Morrison, Sanchez, Hanley, JJ, Nolasco and Sanchez (Anibal). They still need a few more pieces. But they're fine. I would be surprised if they don't trade Nolasco soon. Sucks for them that Volstad appears to be a bust.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 04:09 PM) Morrison is hot in the water? Have I missed something? And the Marlins are not in utter collapse. They've been without arguably the best pitcher in baseball for a while now and he won't be back until mid-July at the earliest. Hanley just got back from the DL. That team is pretty good when all their components are in place. Manager likely to be fired? Has he been there a full year yet? He's almost definitely not going to be back next year. I honestly think Ozzie will be their 2012 manager, and he'll do very well there.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) Who's to say the Marlins wouldn't take that offer today? Morrison is in hot water with ownership, the team is in utter collapse, their manager is likely to be fired, and the organization loves and clearly wants Guillen. Not saying it's a sure thing, but it's not impossible. Why's LoMo in hot water? He'd be an amazing addition to the team, but I just can't picture Florida doing it. If anything, they're going to start trading off veterans and build around Stanton and Morrison.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 04:41 PM) Given their track record over the past 7 years (and in a larger sense two decades) - is is really appropriate in 2011 to have zero faith in this organization, GM and manager? Next time Kenny Williams wins a trade, it will be the first time since the Quentin one. He's on a very, very bad stretch right now and that's why so many people are frustrated with him. NO ONE blames Kenny for signing Dunn. It was a great move and a great deal for the Sox...it just hasn't panned out so far. You can't say that the trade Kenny has failed with were "great deals" at the time.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 02:57 PM) Same here, which is why I know they'll finish around .500. We'll hear things in the offseason like this: "Even with the slow start, they still managed to finish the season with a respectable record. A lot of that has to do with the team having to gel after bringing in a few new faces. I think Ozzie deserves a chance to see what this team can do when it's completely gelled for 162 games." This is such an amazing post

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 02:48 PM) Besides what Sqwert said, I also don't have full faith that they'll fire Ozzie at the end of the year. Just like how if the Sox lose, I hope Pierre goes 0-5, I'm of the opinion that if the Sox aren't going to make the playoffs, I'd rather they win 65 games and get a top 3 pick and get Ozzie out of here.

I'm happy Peavy's feeling good, and his numbers were encouraging. Let me be the first to predict today that if Jackson does bad tonight, he will get removed from the rotation and Peavy will start in his place on Wednesday.

That's a bunch of BS. Everyone knows that 110% of 58 is 64

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) The Pierre situation is another thing. How can one have faith in an organization that refuses to make the most blatantly simple and obvious move of replacing the worst player in baseball with a stud prospect who is lighting the world on fire? I really don't understand how Viciedo isn't thought of as a top 10-20 prospect in baseball.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Be patient all you Soxtalk fans. We can still win. Things will turnaround and in the second half we will rake and all will be good again in the world. We need to step it up, but we can and will. I am not calling for anyone to be fired, demoted, but maybe we wil see a promotion? Everyone seems to think Dayan Viciedo is the answer. Maybe he can help for sure, but we need a spot for him. If he is with the big team he should be playing not sitting.. A spot for him? The Make-a-Wish caliber left fielder we have should be sent to the Frontier League.

"but I can't seem them playing much worse".....oh boy, last time this was said on here, we know what happened. I will say that I'm not going to go out of my way to call for Ozzie's head during the year anymore, as he should be fired if they don't make the playoffs. However, we all know it won't happen during the season.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ Jun 17, 2011 -> 07:37 AM) Either you got this from the Sickels link, or that's a pretty big coincidence. Saw it highlighted in the Sickels link

Braun and Prince Fielder, Joel Hanrahan (took over as my favorite closer due to Broxton blowing up), Victorino, Stanton, and the Arizona announcers

Thought this was interesting: http://www.pe.com/sports/highschool/conten...id.40083da.html

Nice to see Jackson's name included. Absolutely no shock to those that saw him in Durham.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 09:47 PM) I'll place $10 on the Twin kicking their asses physically as well. I hate posts like this. Please stop. Peavy would get hurt in the fight, but boy, he really put in a heck of an effort and after the game, he said he gave it his best. Meanwhile, Juan went to hit someone with a bat but squared up to bunt instead.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 09:29 PM) Hope you're right. Anyway, Brent's in the right spot in the 9 hole, and there's about 50 other problems with the team that deserve more attention. In a perfect world with Beckham and Alexei at 2b and ss, and with Konerko/Dunn and an outfield of Viciedo, Rios and Quentin, then Morel batting 8th or 9th would be fine with me. Thankfully that sounds like the plan next year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) I think he's a mid .700's OPS 3b once he fully develops/adapts, and may cross .800 a couple times given the park he's playing in. I think we can all agree he has to learn to draw a walk or two before he'll sniff a decent OPS.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 08:22 PM) Brent Morel will be a solid offensive contributor for this club for the next half decade +. We're moving in the right field fence so it's 200 feet away? I think he'll be solid, probably below average offensively for 3b but his defense will make him about the epitome of an average player.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 08:15 PM) GMAB. You hated Rios when we claimed him. I don't know how many times you have ranted about how bad he sucked, and how we didn't even want him. And now you are going to use him as an indication of how bad Walker is? Laughable. Especially with all of the "lazy" type claims. I hated Rios cause of the ridiculous amount of money as well as the point it seemed KW made a mistake in trying to block the Tigers. I never said I didn't think he could hit at least .270 with 20 homers. Hell, I think it was kalapse who ridiculed me a few years earlier when I said he was one of the best young hitters in baseball (even though he corrected me that he wasn't really that young). During his tenure with the Sox, he's been simply awful about 75% of the time. So yes, he's regressed from how he was in Toronto and looks like someone in desperate need of a hitting coach.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) To this point, his contact rates have improved and his swing has gotten shorter. In otherwords, he is improving, especially over what we saw last year. And I don't care about contact rate if you're taking preventive swings early in the count and hitting 20 hoppers to the second baseman.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) To this point, his contact rates have improved and his swing has gotten shorter. In otherwords, he is improving, especially over what we saw last year. Ball seemed to jump off his bat more last year. I'll definitely give you Lillibridge for improvements, but adding Morel and his one homer and a walk total you can count on one hand isn't something to put on your hitting coach resume.