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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 07:25 PM) Sox record 2002 - 6-9 2003 - 2-5 2004 - 2-7 2005 - 7-6 2006 - 4-8 2007 - 4-2 2008 - 2-6 2009 - 1-8 2010 - 2-5 30-56 in the second half This should really be the end of this thread

Funny thing is that Teahen, at least to my eyes, is a much better high fastball hitter than a low fastball hitter (Kotsay is the opposite).

QUOTE (scenario @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 06:07 PM) Duensing has had 5 starts. I think it's a little premature to say he's completely stabilized their rotation. Compared to what Blackburn was giving them? Blackburn was killing their bullpen (similar to what Garcia is doing for us now). With the Twins, every game it seems like they just have to use some combo of Crain, Capps, and one or two others. They haven't even needed much with regards to a long man, which Duensing and Burnett were for them.

I'd love to know what the Twins record against the Sox has been post-ASB since Gardenhire was their manager.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 06:48 PM) In the end, KW is the general manager and he is allowed to make his own decisions. Ozzie may have been the one who convinced him to not take Thome, but KW still gets all the credit or the blame for personnel moves. 99% of the time, I'd agree with you. However, the situation with the 2010 Sox is extremely unique, and we talked about it before the year how it almost seemed like KW was trying to set up Ozzie to be the fall guy if this offensive (in more than one way) strategy didn't work.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 05:48 PM) That was the guy he shot down as an injury risk right? Oh yes

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 05:36 PM) No matter who was managing the White Sox, we would still kick the NL's ass, and our team would still be constructed with holes in it because our GM tells us we have to live with choices like Mark Kotsay for budgetary reasons. What?? You mean the same GM that was willing to bring back Thome, but Ozzie said no? Ozzie was the person who towards the end of last season, he said re-signing Kotsay was the team's top priority as soon as the season ended.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 05:42 PM) I believe you get compensation through the 1st 4 rounds. But that is off the top of my head. And I will be interested in seeing how this ups Loux price. He's a talented project. After watching The Club, I would say there's no chance KW invests money in Loux.

QUOTE (Big Daddy Kool @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 06:39 PM) Haven't they gone about improving the minors in a more determined way/shift of philosphy the last 3 years? They've taken players with higher ceilings with their first picks, but besides that, there's been very little in terms of organizational changes. Still not drafting Boras clients or going above slot recommendation for picks.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Aug 17, 2010 -> 06:55 AM) Eh. Minnesota is good, but I think some people overrate them. Their offense is better than what the Sox have, but their pitching is simply not comparable. Seriously? If anything, people underrate the heck out of their starting pitching. Replacing Blackburn for Duensing has completely solidified that rotation.

Tigers spending a ton of money again to sign Castellanos, Ruffin, and their 2nd round pick.

Red Sox with just an amazing draft, as they were able to sign Renaudo.

Just amazing how an organization that's trying to rebuild their farm system refuses to do anything to piss off Bud. Meanwhile, the powerhouse teams in the AL continue to go way over slot for their draft prospects.

Very disappointing to see the Sox fail to sign anyone above slot after the first round.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 10:50 PM) At least we will know a lot more after Thursday. If they sweep us, they pretty much are the darlings of baseball this year along with the Rangers. Darlings of baseball? No one in the media cares about the AL Central.

I'm really excited to see that the Pirates signed Stetson Allie.

Grimes is leaning heavily towards GT as of noon today

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 06:31 AM) No no no, that would disrupt the precious chemistry we have. THATS why we won't get one Jenksy...we just agreed on something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else watch the Hoff Roast? Greg Giraldo's Gary Coleman joke was fantastic.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 04:25 AM) What part of my post did you disagree with? Everybody wanted Putz. Putz finally got the job and has 3 failures in a week. Jenks had the job and had 2 failures in a week. If both guys do the job we win 5 more games probably. Is it the manager's fault? No, it's the player's fault. I'm just pointing out the cliche nature of b****ing about personnel. When we won all those games was it Oz's managing? No, just as it is not his managing when we suck. I guess he could have had Putz closer earlier than he did in the season. Fact: Oz deserves blame for personnel decisions in wanting Kotsay. Yet he's not the GM so the blame there has to be shared. You may disagree, but I blame the bullpen problems on the members of the bullpen rather than the manager. He's the same manager that led us in a 25-5 stretch as he is now. Yep, he led us to a great stretch against mostly (crappy) NL teams...no shock, as he manages like we're an NL team.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 16, 2010 -> 04:18 AM) Far too much sitting back, relaxing and strapping "it" down. Maybe a family member got hit by a bike because the kids' dad told them not to stop.

Assuming Hawk's family is ok, I really hope that the "illness" was a pulled muscle caused by not stretching

Cause regardless of what our manager thinks, we're a home run hitting organization because of our park. The last year, it seems our HR pace slows down considerbly the last two months.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 11:15 PM) I do. People think Pierre is too fast to hit into a DP. He doesn't hit the ball hard and he doesn't hit liners. He's hit into DPs. He's good at bunting and he may have a better chance of getting on base with a bunt as well. He's terrible at bunting

Something that's frustrating is that our pitchers didn't take advantage of the shadows. With shadows that bad, no way a hitter can pick up the spin of an offspeed pitch. Instead, Castro kept calling for fastball after fastball. It's no surprise that Alexei missed Perry's slider by a foot, as there's no way anyone could have seen that pitch. All of the damage the last 2 innings by either team was done against fastballs.