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QUOTE (greg775 @ May 17, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) Our organization thinks too much. Beckham has been deemed ready to play by our organization. Play him every f***ing day. This team was ruined with bad offseason acquisitions that weakened the lineup, coupled with mediocre starting pitching when it was supposed to be overpowering starting pitching. The only changes I want to see involve moving Beckham back to third base and sitting that stiff, Teahen. If Nix and Omar have to play second every day, so be it. I'd say moving Lexi back to second, but we know we can't do that since our organization thinks Lexi is some whiz at short. It should be Beckham at third, Omar at short and Lexi at second. Then replace Omar in the offseason. Stop saying it doesn't matter with Vizquel, because with this team tanking as badly as it is, there's no f***ing reason for him to ever play unless Jose Mesa is pitching. And Alexei isn't getting moved because your amazing manager deemed him to be a fantastic SS.

QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ May 17, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) Any changes aside from Gordon possibly being sent down? No idea, just that changes are happening.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 17, 2010 -> 10:13 PM) Wow. What the hell happened to this organization? No accountability

Well, a little birdie yesterday told me that changes are coming tomorrow night/Wednesday morning. Beckham being demoted looks like a possibility.

How about someone like Dunleavy who will just catch and shoot?

If Pierre reaches base and Vizquel doesn't hit-and-run, then that would be a prime example of bad managing.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ May 17, 2010 -> 09:19 PM) They wouldn't give us Chris Davis straight up for AJ. Could you imagine the complaining about Chris Davis and his strike outs? Between him and Flowers, that would be quite the whiff combo.

Palmeiro was banging Sandberg's wife, and that's why he got traded. What happened with Royce Clayton?

QUOTE (pktmotion @ May 17, 2010 -> 07:48 PM) Someone wanna guess which inning Vizquel will get hurt trying to turn a double play? That's going to get people excited, be careful.

It's awesome that Beckham will sit against one of the more hittable pitchers in the AL, and then will be in the line-up tomorrow against Verlander.

It's crazy the Blue Jays are that low, considering everyone on that team has 10 home runs it seems.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 17, 2010 -> 08:03 PM) Danks 2 is not even close to being ready IMO. If we bring him up this year, we'll be doing him a huge disservice. He needs to cut down those strikeouts and raise his average in AAA before getting any consideration. I agree, I think he's the most overrated Sox prospect of the last 5 years. However, the organization seems dedicated to having him on the fast track.

What a joke, Beckham homered on the Sunday night game last year vs Porcello and seemingly hit very well in Detroit.

IIRC, LeBron was excited the first time he met Michael Jordan because he was stunned at how much Jordan wanted to talk to his mother.

I agree with Jenks Heat, no more just giving away players and saying "we owed it to them to put them into a better situation". KW has done a miserable job in the past of trading veterans for prospects, so I'm not overly optimistic he'll turn Jenks, AJP, Konerko, Jones, etc. into solid depth for our minors. The biggest positive is likely to come from saved money as well as opportunities for Flowers, Thornton (to close), Santos, Danks 2.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 17, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) I guess I just see a benefit to having an experienced backup catcher if your starter is a rookie. I think having a veteran might actually help Flowers' development. Also, I'm not a big Lucy fan. I just don't see his bat holding up over the course of a full season. He'd fit in perfectly with the long line of horrible Sox back-up catchers. Outside of 2005 with Widger, I can't remember the last time we had a decent hitting back-up catcher.

There's also rumors that Chris Allen of Michigan St. knocked up a teammate's girlfriend last season, which is why there was so much turmoil with the Spartans.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 17, 2010 -> 06:29 PM) If Flowers is the everyday starter, would you still want Lucy backing him up? Yes

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 17, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) Yeah, we dont overvalue our players at all? AJP, hated around the league, having a bad season, would be a short term rental. Give us your top prospects!!! That a boy, keep up the great work. It amazes me how much people overvalue our players on here. Next thing you know, people will say we can get Adrian Gonzalez for Morel and Viciedo!

We need to stop giving Major League deals to crappy veteran players. When guys like J. Gomes are getting Minor League deals, while Kotsay and Vizquel get Major League deals, that shows that we misjudged the market to start last offseason. We can have a cheaper bench with likely better results. No reason to sign Castro for 1.2 mil next year, just let Lucy back-up.

QUOTE (hawksox13 @ May 17, 2010 -> 06:52 PM) I don't think I'd pay more than $14 million per year or give Crawford more than 5 years so if he's getting more than that I'd say the Sox should probably look in another direction. Just curious, what do you think the Sox will be looking to get the payroll down to heading into next season? If it's 100 million this year, I heard a projection last week on some site that 91 million would be estimated based on attendance and reveneue projections.

Crawford will likely get more money than that, and there's no way we'd win a bidding war for his services with teams like the Yankees rumored to have an interest in him. Also, there's no way I see our payroll being over 100 million next year after what's sure to be a mediocre attendance this season. Good try though, I appreciate the thought you put into it.

It's the National League. I guarantee Jenks would be successful there. Heck, Carlos Silva is a valuable starter in that league.

I know I'm probably not a good judge for this, but has anyone else noticed how lots of different media sources are talking about a rift between Ozzie and KW? If I didn't know any better, someone in the organization is setting up one of them to be the fall guy.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 17, 2010 -> 05:17 PM) They could be a good White Sox trade partner Maybe we can trade for their righty set-up man and their SS! In all seriousness, Jenks as a set-up man for them makes a lot of sense. They wouldn't need Konerko or AJP, and I can't see them taking in Buehrle.