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QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 04:48 AM) If we lose the next 2 games, the f word (firesale) becomes a very real scenario. Yep, but it won't be done until July. No way KW starts unloading before the Cubs games. I know it came across poorly, and I do apologize...but I really do worry about the health of Jenks. It's not like Ozzie to not use him in those situations. If he didn't use him cause he knows he struggles in non-save situations, then I say good for Ozzie for finally learning. However, I don't think he's that analytical, and something has to be up.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 04:47 AM) There is a difference between rebuilding and just being dumb and forcing guys who aren't ready to play. That would be the latter. Yep, unlike Beckham, he's the type of player you can hurt if he comes up and strikes out in 50 pct of his at bats.

Someone made a great point (rowand, I believe). If we lose the next 2 games, don't even think of activating Quentin.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 04:40 AM) If we lose those two we're 7.5 out. It's not 10, but it's far enough to know that we're not good enough to compete in even a s***ty division. And our schedule is pretty difficult with Dodgers coming up, good pitching in 6 games vs the Cubs, Reds (looks like we'll face Cueto and Harang).

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:34 AM) 5.5 games out. If we lose tomorrow, and it's highly likely with Verlander pitching well and Danks struggling, then it should be time to seriously consider looking forward to next year and beyond. We aren't already? We just DL'd Colon with a fake injury so we could promote Poreda. That's a pretty good sign of things to come. Let's just make sure our two best trade chips are fine (Jenks and Dye).

Today was a prime example of why we need to send a pitcher down and call up a lefty for the bench. There's no reason to have 3 lefties in your bullpen. I feel sorry for Ozzie that he had to use Getz to try and hit a 3 run homer.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 04:26 AM) Apparently Holmberg is gonna be a tough sign as well. The Holmberg pick is really making me scratch my head more and more. I think part of the reason this draft disappointed me is that we spent no money at all last offseason, so I was hoping we'd spend more during this draft. It's funny, as I don't mind the Mitchell pick and love the Thompson pick. It's the Phegley pick of the top 3 that bugs me when reviewing things.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:27 AM) It's fathom.... Funny thing is it wasn't even close to the worst call of the game. That crew sucked all around tonight.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 04:25 AM) It is a f***ing huge game. The series is tied at a game apiece, and it is the difference between being 3.5 and 5.5 games out. Why would you diminish how important tonight is??? If they finish 2 games or less out, then I hope Hawk makes a JFK style film about the play. If not, it's just another game honestly.

You get the sense Hawk isn't a fan of Getz. come on BA

QUOTE (Brian @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:22 AM) pwned Some people just need stuff to b**** about. pwned = incorrect in this case, I guess

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:22 AM) Why shouldn't be b****? This time he is right. Agreed, but I mean for the next 100 games or so, he'll probably bring it up every game. It was a very peculiar play all around, as I think Hawk thought Wise was safe and that his run tied the game.

Oh boy, hell of a catch. Hope that wrist is ok.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:21 AM) His last loss was May 16th. May 19-June 1, he had 6 appearances, we won every single one of those. Then he pitched June 5th vs CLE, we lost 6-0. He's given up 4 earned runs ALL SEASON. He lost yesterday also

If we do lose, we will never hear the end of this from Hawk about the umpire.

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:19 AM) Yah, we're all upset. But this isn't any kind of terrible move by Guillen. Just played the wrong card is all. Like I said, I just hope he's ok. An injury to him would be catastrophic for numerous reasons.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:18 AM) Beckham just isn't giving good AB's. At all. Wow...he had 3 good at bats tonight. It's like some people want him to fail.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:17 AM) As of when, yesterday? Or as of May 16th? Which was the last time the Sox lost a game he pitched in and he was credited with the loss. GMAFB. 3 losses now in the last 23 days (if we lose tonight).

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:15 AM) I disagree. It seems that everytime Jenks comes into a non save situation he lets up a run. I agree with you on every other non move Ozzie has made today, but not this one. So are you just not going to use Jenks tonight then? I just hate losing yesterday's game and possibly tonight's with Jenks and Thornton sitting while Linebrink throws 93 mph fastballs down the plate.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:13 AM) Will you stop b****ing about EVERYTHING? Jeez. Linebrink has a sub-1 ERA this season at home. So you'd rather see Linebrink in this game than Jenks or Thornton? Linebrink has been a loss machine of late.

Why would you ever throw Cabrera an inner fastball in that situation? Now, I just hope Jenks isn't injured and the reason he's not pitching is cause he's being traded. Other than that, Ozzie should be fired immediately after this game.

Of course...WHERE THE f*** IS JENKS??????????? Stop pitching Linebrink in close games, he has nothing this season.

QUOTE (Shamrock4Life @ Jun 10, 2009 -> 03:09 AM) how are you blaming the umps positioning there? where do you want him to stand? and he never called him safe, he was getting out of the way of Wise when his arms came up. I guess it was more a fluky play, as you never see the tag that far down the body on a play like that. So where is Jenks?

Bad news...Linebrink's coming in I think. Is Jenks hurt?

Wow, Beckham totally psyched himself out there. This has got to be Jenks coming in.