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QUOTE (tommy @ Dec 15, 2008 -> 05:05 AM) Lets say Getz wins 2B out of spring training. Ozzie said he is batting 9th. That is why Jerry Owens will start over BA, because Jerry Owens is a leadoff hitter, BA is not. Of course one trade could change all of this but as we stand and what I can say from this article this is 2009 lineup: Owens CF AJP C Quentin LF Dye RF Thome DH Konerko 1B Ramirez SS Fields 3B Getz 2B Really inexcusable to have this lineup combined with our likely 4/5 of Richard and Marquez. That's all that needs to be said.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 14, 2008 -> 10:42 PM) Josh Mayo of UIC might be the 2nd best non-BCS guard in the country right now. Just an amazing shooter, he's actually been more accurate than Curry this year I believe. At the same time, it AMAZES me Georgia Tech got to a national title game under Paul Hewitt. He's a fantastic recruiter, but he couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He's NCAA Basketball Ron Zook. Yep, he's a terrible coach. That GT team that made it to the title had a fantastic player and leader in Jarrett Jack. Hewitt supposedly will get one more year after this season, especially if he lands Favors like everyone is expecting. He's had so much turnover in the program over the last 4 years with players going pro early, injuries, and academic casualties.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 14, 2008 -> 02:59 AM) Johnny Estrada was non-tendered by the Mets. He was a good-hitting catcher a couple years ago, does he suck now? Yes...bad hitter, terrible defensively, and a horrible clubhouse person.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 08:36 PM) I understand he was hurt, but why if he was a banged up as KW said, did they call him up? Why not get him fixed right away? Because they wanted to trade him, but then Crede went and got injured prior to the trade deadline.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) I agree, but apparently KW can't afford him. He's already over budget. It must have dropped because when he traded Javy, he said he was right at it. Yeah, I'm really puzzled about the finances of the Sox right now. Everything we're hearing is very disturbing.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 13, 2008 -> 08:14 PM) Kenny said he was a little over budget as we stand right now, then brought up "creativity" again, referring to the Lee for Vizcaino and Pods deal and mentioning that it allowed them to also sign AJ and El Duque. Just off the top of my head, Dye makes $11.5M next year. If the Sox could trade him for Bailey and a prospect ($500K), then sign Daniel Cabrera for $4M, Juan Rivera for $4M, Willy Taveras for $2M, and a back of the pen reliever like Luis Ayala for $1M, would you do that trade? It would essentially be Dye for Bailey, Cabrera, Rivera, Taveras, Ayala, and a prospect in a salary wash. The roster is at 37 now, so adding that many players would put us at 41, however Jose Contreras would be transferred to the DL, and if necessary Owens and/or Broadway could be cut (although I'd prefer both of them cut because they make my skin crawl). That would be a waste of 10 million dollars. Daniel Cabrera is terrible, and he's a huge injury risk!

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 08:03 AM) May I ask why you posted his game logs from last year? We all know he pretty much stunk. To show which games I watched him pitch. Thankfully I didn't see that start against Colorado though.

I've seen Bailey on TV 4 times in his career, while my brother has seen him numerous times in AAA. I watched Bailey's MLB debut in 2007 (against Indians I believe), and then I saw his two performances against Brewers last season as well as his game against the Cardinals. Like I recently said in this thread though, we don't know how much the injuries depleted him of his stuff last season. If his stuff last season when he was in the majors is what he truly throws, then I want no part of him. He is worth the risk of Jermaine though, as he could give us the power righty we've lacked. st 8 Games (Season Game Log) Season to Date Date Opponent Score Dec IP H R ER HR BB K W L SV IP ERA Aug 6 MIL L 3-6 L 5.1 8 6 6 0 3 4 0 6 0 36.1 7.93 Aug 1 @ WAS L 2-5 L 2.0 7 5 5 0 1 3 0 5 0 31.0 7.55 Jul 26 COL L 1-5 L 4.2 15 5 4 0 1 2 0 4 0 29.0 6.52 Jul 21 SDG L 4-6 - 6.1 8 3 3 1 2 2 0 3 0 24.1 6.29 Jul 13 @ MIL L 2-3 - 5.2 5 2 2 1 0 4 0 3 0 18.0 7.00 Jun 15 BOS L 0-9 L 2.1 4 5 5 3 3 0 0 3 0 12.1 8.76 Jun 10 STL L 2-7 L 3.2 8 5 5 2 3 2 0 2 0 10.0 6.30 Jun 5 @ PHI L 0-5 L 6.1 4 5 2 1 4 1 0 1 0 6.1 2.84 Total 36.1 59 36 32 8 17 18 0 6 0 0 7.93

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 05:28 AM) Why would Collins go to DePaul? I know it's a sleeping giant in that it's a Big East basketball school in a major city with a lot of tradition, but it's still a rebuilding job in the toughest basketball conference (by far) in America. That's a rough way to start the heading coaching portion of your career. Chicago connections...I've heard from people he was interested in the job when JW got it.

If the Bears run the table, what are their chances at getting the Wild Card.

That was a filthy route by Hester. s***ty throw, but an obvious PI.

That official is a gutless piece of s***. You'll never see a more blatant pass int.

How in the hell isn't that a penalty? David butt f***ed G-reg.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 04:13 AM) This isn't the fun and gun in Florida. It's the NFL. You can't just throw deep. Orton makes more difficult throws that Rex can never make. Week 7 vs. Minnesota he was very good. Good against Jax and Good against St. Louis. Otherwise he has been average, never brutal, IMO. Guess you don't like the fact that he is capable of putting up a 0.0 WB rating. Never brutal? At Minnesota was a terrible performance, and tonight hasn't been much better. Hopefully he can lead us to a win now.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 04:06 AM) Most idiotic statement ever. Why? Orton's been absolutely brutal since about week 6. Reminds me of 2006 with Rex. At least with Rex, you have someone who can complete a deep pass once a month.

Kyle Orton is brutal. And why are we passing when Saints have one timeout left? Give me Rex over Orton any day.

Thanks Saints for that play call!

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 04:55 AM) He hasn't even played much. I can't think of anything he has done to hurt us. He is eaily a better back up than Kevin Jones. He's been horrible on special teams, and he's dropped quite a few passes thrown his way. Need a big stand now!

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 04:55 AM) Why would you fake punt? I think it looks like a catch, but awful idea. Like I said right after it happened, Lovie's trying to get himself fired.

A. Peterson really sucks this season for the Bears.

Lovie's just asking to be fired now.

This game is a carbon copy of the Tampa and Carolina games from earlier this year. Some more amazing adjustments by Babich.

QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 03:59 AM) That would actually be a nice fit for Chris' first coaching job. Have no fear, I dropped that name to one of the biggest boosters today. I'll add any insight I receive.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 03:30 AM) Pretty sure it bounced off Davis It was behind him...should have been a big play for the Bears.

QUOTE (SoxFan101 @ Dec 12, 2008 -> 03:23 AM) When will Rashied Davis finally stop get playing time, he hurts the team way more than he helps. It was a bad pass by Orton.