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I wonder how santo/dorf feels about this.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:19 PM) Erstad hurt. Oh good grief....does this mean we have to wait 2 more weeks to see how this team responds with him in the lineup.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:19 PM) I've heard the opposite, FYI. New information?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:18 PM) I'll say this...you keep making really stupid comments about, "Oh, this team's lost blank of their last blank...SO WHY ISN'T OZZIE OUT OF A JOB!" and "OZZIE SHOULD BE OUT OF A JOB IF WE GET SWEPT!" Because Ozzie's going to strike out 20 times against Zambrano and throw flat cutters up at great hitters, right? I've never seen a manager get so little blame for his team completely going to hell like Ozzie this year, that's all I'm saying.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) yes. You say that alot Actually no, I haven't flat out said that Ozzie should be fired. I've asked why isn't it more of a possibility before, but enough is enough.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 08:16 PM) TRADE HIM This will be his last home start with the Sox. The best thing he could do is throw at Soriano next inning, and then hopefully get Zambrano to go nuts and throw at one of our guys.

I'll say this....if we get swept this series, not only should the fire sale start, but Ozzie should be out of a job.

Haha....keep throwing junk up there Buehrle. Every change-up he's thrown is up in the zone.

Is that like the 5th leadoff homer we've given up this year?

That was quite predictable. Buehrle's fastball looks pathetic so far, and we kept challenging a great fastball hitter. I hate this f***ing team.

Any chance Fields makes contact vs Zambrano this series?

QUOTE(TheHolyBovine @ Jun 22, 2007 -> 06:58 AM) Please. If we took on Carl Everett (twice), there's no reason why we can't take on Bradley. Carl Everett is a saint compared to Milton Bradley. The last thing we need to add to this team is someone that can't stay healthy for more than a month.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 05:54 PM) Yeah, but I think we've already screwed the pooch on Dye. We've still got a shot with Buehrle but I doubt the Mets give us s***. Then screw the Mets, and trade Buehrle to the Cardinals for Rasmus, a pitching prospect and Perez.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 05:44 PM) I think it would be funny -- in a horrible sort of way -- if we dealt Buehrle to the Braves and they signed him to a long-term deal. They don't have the money to do it....but why would that be horrible?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 04:51 PM) Maybe. Contreras had a pretty good stretch earlier. He's been struggling recently. I think he'll be ok. I'd trade him for anything right now in order to get out of the 20 million we'll owe him for the next two years. His fastball has lost about 5 mph, and his forkball is nowhere near the plus-plus pitch it used to be. The Mariners are looking for starters, and I'd trade Contreras for Jeff Clement in a heartbeat.

You just get the feeling that a lot of people are going to be really disappointed at the actual players we acquire in a trade compared with the ludicrous proposals we see.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 21, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) Jayson Stark wrote today that the Braves jumped into the Buehrle fray. I'd imagine the first name mentioned after Buehrle would be Saltalamacchia. Knowing how things are going, Joey Devine would be the best player we'd get back.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 11:00 PM) Outside of his defense at 3B, I've been pleasantly surprised by Fields. What's been bad about his defense? If anything, his defense has been the biggest positive surprise so far.

I hate the feeling I have watching these games now. It's so hard not rooting for the team you love, but deep down, I know it's better off if they lose these games so that they don't have false hope. Hell, for this coming weekend, I think I'm rooting more for the Cubs to lose against the Sox than I am the Sox to win games.

Funny tidbit I heard this weekend....the Durham Bulls have told the D-Rays that Duke and Delmon Young aren't allowed to play for them again. Thus, if they have to go on rehab, they'll have to go elsewhere.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 09:44 PM) Again not true. I don't know if it was in this thread, but he also brought up John Sickel's pre-season ranking of Richar in the D'Backs system -- he was unranked (Sickels lists 20) in the 'others of note' list, putting him in that 20-30 range. I actually found out about the trade from a couple of scouts at a minor league game. They thought the Sox made a huge mistake.

QUOTE(PoopsThompson @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 08:58 PM) Fathom, considering that they want Sweeney down there to work on his swing, etc, and Anderson is in EVERYONE's doghouse, who the hell else do you want them to call up? Owens is up here by necessity right now. Anyone....it's a disgrace to this organization to have someone putting up an OPS around .425 after 53 at-bats, especially as an outfielder.

So....now that we've lost 9 series in a row and 24 out of 30, I ask this question: why does Ozzie Guillen have a job?

Jerry Owens and Gustavo Molina are two of the worst players I've ever seen on the Sox big league roster. Like I said at the time, KW and Ozzie might be the only people who think Owens should have ever been called up.

Tomorrow's going to be one of those long days with annoying trade proposals listed.