WilliamTell

I don't doubt that Conteras has better stuff than Loaiza. I just don't know if he uses the stuff that he has as well as Loaiza. I was all for this trade until I saw his ERA. I didn't think it'd be that high. He has had a better last few months though.

It sounds like Scott wasn't involved in the trade and good thing too. If we were going to trade for 2 starting pitchers, we had better get back 2 pitchers.

That SOS is a plus for the Sox. I see the Twins are way down there. I hope this team can get it rolling again tonight. The first win is always the harderst after a slump. Go get em Mark!!!

I say the real winner in this trade is Orlando Cabrera. He gets out of Montreal which is always a plus.

I don't know. I kinda dissagree now once I think about the trade. How long will Contreras be with out his family after this trade? I know he had been doing a great job with them out of Cuba. But the more I think about it, the less I like it. Esteban did a great job with the Sox. I guess this team does need a jump start, but was trading him really the best option. I've never heard of him being a clubhouse cancer or anything.

Who knows, he might only be in Wrigley for the rest of the year. I do think Boston did a good job because there was basically no chance that Nomar was going to stay in Boston after this year. Might as well get another quality shortstop for him.

OK so Boston now has 3 first basemen if you count Ortiz. Menkavitcz will probably be a backup I'd assume. I know he did play some third base a bit in Minnesota but not at all this year.

But did the Red Sox even need a first basemen. Who's started there ususally? I believe Ortiz is the DH.

So the Twins just gave up Minkeivitch for Lowe? That's it?

ESPNews said it was official.

If this is true, I like it.

Hugs for everyone!!!

Can we please get a win here?

With Davis going 1 for 3 or 1 for 4 it still raises his batting average. But I too would like to see a mult hit game. If he went 3 for 4 I bet it'd raise about 40 points.

You want to dump a 21 game winner from last year? Come on, sure he's not going to win 21 games again, but he should get around 15 and that is still a good year. It's not his fault we lost this game.

Yes I do agree that you have to leave Rowand in during that. Borchard is also strike out prone right now. Leave Aaron in, he's a solid player.

Yes, 2 errors resulting in runs. Plus we got the two calls to go our way and Morneau scores anyways, then he gets out and Hunter hits a home run. We should have won, but I guess that happens. I thought this year was going to be different against the Twins, but it seems like the same old luck is coming back.

I'd take Olerud because it's not like we'd have him for more than the 2nd half of the season. And he can actually play some good defense. I wouldn't want either one, but I'd prefere Olerud.

Exactly, I doubt we'll get either Simon or Olerud, but I think Olerud is the better option.

I prefere Olerud because he doesn't go for power like a lot of players on this team. He'll get the base hit or the double and I think that'd help this team.

I'd prefere John Olerud over Randall Simon I think.

Ain't that the truth. I can't stand the guy like most other people. I basically don't watch Around the Horn anymore because of that idiot.

Jose has to get out of the 2 hole. I'd put Everett in there before him. I think Rowand would be the best bet there though.

That's new news to me. Thanks.

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