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QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) For a guy who needs to be stretched out, McCarthy lasted longer than Contreras. If Ozzie doesnt put him in the rotation, then I cannot wait for the Q&A session at soxfest. Keep going with guys getting shelled and our pitcher of the future sits. Last year he pulled this crap with El Duque. El Duque was out on the DL like usual, Bmac was 2 hitting Boston and Texas then when the 80 year old came back. He went into the rotation. Then he went with that silly piggy back, where El Duque would get rocked and Bmac would shut the team down for the next 4 to 7 innings. It was only when Ozzie saw the Indians come close that he blinked. Ozzie we dont have a 15 game lead to blow. Its time to start bmac. With him and Garland we will give our offense a fighting chance.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 08:20 PM) The point you make is exactly why I won't, for one second, start ranting about any "luck" issues this year. Teams create their luck for the most part, and luck occurs when you're playing good baseball and making smart strategical decisions. WHERE ARE OUR BLOOPERS? Take last years pitching staff, and put it on the softball teams of the 2001 through 2004 era and how many division titles we would see instead of the twinks. We have had good overall offenses over the last few years, except for last year. And if our pitching showed up we would of won more division titles. But from s***ting the bed with the 5th starter disaster, to this years crap on wheels we have killed our team.

Ozzie Guillen in 2006 = Tony Pena past 2003. Mad Genius turned into retarded managing and losing your ballclub.

Crede swinging for the fences. At some point we need someone in the minors to teach someone how to have a line drive swing. I suggest we find out every minor league instructor for the twins, and double their salary. Because we have two things in our system. Long looping swings that look like softball hitters, and pitchers who nibble.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 08:00 PM) Good thing Mackowiak started in CF, otherwise we wouldn't have all this offense. Too bad he couldnt of started in LF and then continue to do so on a nightly basis.

QUOTE(GOD @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 07:58 PM) I have a serious question. Who calls the pitch selection, is it Ozzie or the catchers? AJ said on the Mike North show that he and the catchers call the game. They go over a game plan with Coop before to prep but they call it.

Walkers solution for Santana Just pitch a shutout. Pretty much he has given up on scoring a lot of runs on him. We can put up runs against the best closers in the league, the best pitchers in the league, but our management has just given up on cracking Johan. Nice, maybe we can bring Charlotte up and see if they can beat him. Johan is good, but he is not a god. He can be beat. If the Royals and their offense can put a 4 spot up on him we can.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) Everything I was gonna say has already been said. Let me just add this: the Twins are a better 'baseball' team than we are. Are we more talented? Without a doubt. Can we hit more HRs? Duh. Besides that, they're better than us in every single aspect of baseball. It's not even close. I get pissed the most with what happens on 2 strikes. A twins batter shortens their stroke up, and tries to make contact, hitting the ball back up the middle or to the opposite field. It has 3 effects, one it raises the pitch count. the more pitches a pitcher throws the more likley they are to make a mistake, and with the ball in plate it has a chance to be fair and for a hit. A Whitesox player with 2 strikes, swing as hard as you can, turn lift and pull. If the ball isnt in your area, take it. Better to walk back to the dugout and prepare for your next homer.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 01:07 AM) This has been said by others on here, but Joey Cora is costing us the pennant. Thanks for killing our momentum tonight, Joe. Geez have a clue!!!!!!! Cora and Guillen are killing this team this year. If you are 90 in a walker, and havent hit third yet, He will send you. Because it takes a perfect throw and a perfect exchange, and a perfect patience to wait for you to get tagged out. Cora was the guy on the Boers and Bernstein show saying that with a man on first and 3rd and Konerko on third. That even with the men up trying to cut off the run, Konerko should go on contact. Konerko was tagged off trying to get back to third on a fast grounder to third. The minute he said that I knew he lost all sense of reality. You dont send your player on contact with the infield in, and less than 2 outs on a hard grounder to the third baseman. Konerko has no speed. Guillen still has no clue how to manage a pitching staff.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 12:54 AM) BTW...may I recommend moving Gload into the #2 hole in the order, and putting Iguchi 7th in the lineup. I think Ozzie needs to realize that Cotts cannot get lefties out, just like Marte last year couldnt get lefties out. Why is he option A out of the pen.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Aug 23, 2006 -> 01:35 PM) McCarthy is long relief. We haven't needed long relief for awhile now. But, none of the relief corp (except Jenks) has been that consistent either. Cotts and BMac equal at lest one homer given up per appearance. Brandon is your bridge to your backend. Since the allstar break Brandon 3.24 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 3 homers, 8.10ks/9 innings 3.86 ERA, .096 WHIP in August Neal 6.23 ERA, 2.62 WHIP, 3 homers, 6ks/9 innings 8.10 ERA, 2.85 WHIP in August Brandon is not mop up, it should be Cotts and his pathetic numbers.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 26, 2006 -> 12:01 AM) Some of the guys who actually did damage against Santana were Ordonez and Rowand, and that's cause they would drive the ball to the opposite field against him. BA hit well against him last time, because he went to right. Gooch goes to right so much he gets some good wood on the ball against him. But the pull-o-matic paulie swings for the fences guessing fastball on every pitch. If santana is dumb enough to throw a fastball he may hit it out. But he will get a steady diet of changes in the dirt.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:58 PM) Worse, I could start thinking like Ozzie... Ozzie must be in groundhog day. He thinks everyday is the first day at Tuscon, split squad game. Lets start 70% of my starters today. Then lets get Cotts some work in the 6th. Cant use bmac he is throwing the B game over in Surprise.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:53 PM) Anyone believe opposing teams/fans make those assumptions towards our starting pitchers? Tomorrow, they have to defeat Santana. I don't care how difficult it is. Make it happen. More than deciding the series and affecting wild-card position, defeating Santana (legitimately-- that means more than 2 runs and scraping it out) would be beneficial for our psyche entering the last series of the season. You know he'll be there, ready to face us. The problem Flash is how our Offense hits in the 2nd half year in and year out. At the point the temps heat up at Coors East, our guys stop hitting and start with a lift and pull thing going on. When we face a good pitcher who has a good changeup we are meat. We will go up there like blind robots swinging for the fences, trying to guess which one of the 2 pitches Santana will throw against us. Konerko didnt see a fastball last game and looked stupid swinging at changeups in the dirt. Other teams put up some sort of offensive attack. There is no reason that he has an under 2 ERA against us in the last 2 years. Outside of us helping him with our attack. 2 strikes, swing for the fence K.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:49 PM) MY FAVORITE RONGEY LINE... Eventually this team needs to beat someone like Johan, or Schilling, or Kazmir. Uh...dumbass...we have beat Johan, raped Verlander a few times, and Roy Halladay. Probably during the game, Rongey has the cubs game on so he can get a full game of his favorite team. After the game someone gives him a few key things that happened in the game so he can sound like he watched it.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:47 PM) Wow Rongey is just making himself look more like a moron. "Its going to be tough to win tomorrow since we probably won't score more than 3 or 4 runs." "Ross Gload being sent and thrown out looked like it wasn't a bad decision at the time." Confused!!!!!

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:45 PM) If Pods isn't going to attempt to steal, he really shouldn't be playing professional baseball. Maybe Widger can get him on his softball team next summer. Pods hasnt done a damn thing and starts pretty much unless a left is out there. Meanwhile our super defensive stuff centerfielder who has been hitting, is on a platoon gig. He only gets in if the starter has a left hand, or with 2 strikes because the pitcher has a left hand. I bet you mack starts in CF on Sunday and Mr. Dergan is in LF on sunday also.

QUOTE(chisox72 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:43 PM) Uhoh...hold the phone.... Schuster just informed us that Pods "just hasn't been coming through." He must have just gotten the memo.... Thank god for this on the mark reporting. Cotts has been struggling a bit will be his next levinesque moment.

Here is the Rongey duck and Cover. Well tonight the sox fall to the twins 37 to nothing. The good news is that this is only one loss in the loss column. I have every confidence that tomorrow our pitchers will pitch better, because they have done it before in their careers. Lets take a caller, Matt from Lemont is on the phone, Hello Matt. Matt: Hi uh Chris, Well I want to know where Freddys velocity went, he is throwing so slow....Rongey interupts... Well Chris great question, I am sorry that you got disconnected, but if you call in again we will hook you up with 2 VIP tickets to Shoeless Joes sportsbar. Freddy Garcia, he has pitched well before in his career, and I think you take too much into his velocity. Maddux has 300 wins and never threw hard. Alright next caller. Jim from Downers Grove hello Jim Jim: I am a season ticket holder coming back from the game. I have never seen such a pathetic .....call goes dead. Rongey: We seem to have lost Jim. Too bad. Maybe if he was using Skype phone service he would be okay. Skype is free and can make real calls. I use skype every day. Skype you can get it at skype.com. Well thank you for your calls, and hopefully the whitesox will get back on track tomorrow. They face Johan Santana which wont make it easy. But I think they can do it, because they all have had hits before in their career. Maybe if they get a few hits, it will help their confidence a little and they will be better off for the strectch run. No save of the game with the score being 35-0, but our drive of the game was Torii Hunter who hit 3 grand slams off of hard luck starter Freddy Garcia. The affilicates are done now and you in Chicago please hold on for more of the post game show with the PFB.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:31 PM) Maybe Damaso Cotts should go help McCarthy collect plastic cups during the game. That would be more effective IMO. Cotts should ask Politte his theory on what happens to guys who cant get people out.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) Is he injured or what? Why can't anyone within the media answer the question, or management answer it? Someone on this board mentioned Cooper citing McCarthy's "sore shoulder" as an excuse, but then why haven't there been any newspaper reports about it? Have I just missed them? He pitched one inning last week. How the hell could he have a sore shoulder.

QUOTE(chisox72 @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) Hah! The Sox have to "find a way" to make Cotts effective and give him "condfidence"...... I miss Brian Dolgin..... Brian was the same guy. Dave Wills was the man to miss. He at least would be critical once in a while.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:27 PM) Of course Rongey doesn't address the McCarthy question. When presented with a real tough question, Rogney goes into his bozo buckets and pulls out a gift card to some crappy sponsor of the show, or to one of his remotes. Because going to Shoeless Joes to see this clown in person is the highlight of someones life. Actually that might be fun. To heckle him in person. I will have to pay attention on the next away game stand.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) They sure as hell better not be saying they have no chance vs Santana tomorrow because if they don't win this series were in deep s***. The score will be 1-1 in the 8th inning and Ozzie will use Cotts out of the pen with a man on third because the batter is Jason Tyner and he is a lefty. Bmac and Brian are playing cards in the bowels of the stadium in Ozzie detention.

QUOTE(cgaudin @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:18 PM) We got no chance tomorrow, but they still have to play the game. Hope for Santana to sprain his wrist while he's shaving or something. We got no clue how to hit this guy. The way we should approach him for a game. Is to try and take his fastball into right. If you do happen to get the change, with you trying to hit the ball to right you may stay back enough on the change to put it in play fair. Just going up there confused and looking for a pitch to park is not a way to beat this guy. Other teams have put runs up against this guy, he is not superman. QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Aug 25, 2006 -> 11:19 PM) You have to give the screener a bogus topic to discuss and then ask Rongey your real questions. I couldnt help myself.