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QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Frank is likely going to the DL. Gload is getting called-up. Well we get Gload back. Its time to make a move KW>

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) Well let's see. Ramirez was coming up so you want a righthander in there, no one can convince me that Neal Cotts should've been in there period. So you have a choice of Vizcaino, Hermanson, or Jenks. I presume Hermanson was available but even if he holds them and the White Sox don't score you're still left with Vizcaino or Jenks. He went with the veteran, who gave up a long home run ball on a horrible pitch to a great hitter ... after the 3B drops a pop up. Can anyone tell they gave this game away with mistakes??? Mike Jackson was a veteran also. Viz is the 2005 version of Mike.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) Bad at bats for both Podsednik and Iguchi in the 9th inning, at least Everett gave a battle. They cannot throw games away like this. 3 errors and 3 unearned runs, that is horses***. The cubans are going to get destroyed. Mark Buerhle is our best pitcher and still got hit.

Well remember everyone our crack bunch of starters are going to shut down the bosox. Good Pitching beats good hitting evertime. Remember 2000 when our good hitting team choked and our pitching played pretty well. This BoSox team can hit a hell of a lot better than that Seattle team. Does anyone really thing that Buerhle and our pitching Staff going to shut down this team in the playoffs. I mean outside of the Whitesox homerism and all really. Matt Clement did not have his good stuff tonight. We had a series of solo home runs and bad situational hitting. Crede was clutch in the 8th but then s*** the bed in the 9th hot dogging. Why would anyone and I mean anyone put Vizcan in any close game or a close game in the 9th.

When Shingo was DFAed, Jizzcan became our worst pitcher. But for whatever focking reason Ozzie throws him out there in a key situation.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 04:22 PM) You know that could be it as well. As much as they felt they needed Willie around because of Crede's back, maybe now they think they need Gload around because of Frank's ankle and Dye's bug bite. Maybe someone just realized that Gload owns Schilling and just beat the crap out of him recently in the rehab starts for the bosox.

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) If only he had the power to move Koney lower in the lineup. Now if Ross was up inserting another lefty in the lineup would be nice tonight. Plus he has smacked the crap out of Schilling down in the minors. Steve Stone on WSCR just said one of the moves that KW needs to make soon is to bring up Ross Gload.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 02:56 PM) Scott Reifert is the man, he had this up 3 hours ago. Tonight's Lineup Against the Red Sox Pods, LF ... Iguchi, 2B ... Everett, DH ... Konerko, 1B ... Rowand, CF ... Dye, RF ... Pierzynski, C ... Crede, 3B ... Uribe, SS ... Buehrle, LHP. Arow batting 5th against a guy with a good slider.

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:48 PM) I totally agree with that, it seems like the games we dont get a nice lead in 1-3rd innings we sit back wait for the final minute to start a rally. Noticed this in the game yesterday, our batters were way more patient when they are down 6 runs in the bottom of the 9th. Why can't we bat like that the whole game.....take your time stop getting into those 0-2, 1-2 counts....... Our hitters should of taken notes during the A's series. They work the count, and put the ball in play a lot. Our hitters are 10 times more talented than any of the A's hitters outside of Chavez and Kotsay. Farmio made comments during the game, when they are 3-2 they put the ball in play into the gaps, when we were 3-2 we either popped out or Kd. I think the selection proccess of what to swing at and knowing your count is what is wrong with our hitters. Bonderman was 2-0 on a lot of hitters. And on 2-0 you should be finding a pitch that you can drive. Our hitters would foul off a 2-0 fastball an inch off the plate. Maybe that pitch gets called a strike, maybe its a ball. But does anyone think that they can drive the 96 mph fastball on the outside corner? Rowand, Konerko and Crede are always 0-2. Uribe swings at the first pitch. Being more selective and having a plan up there when they hit and not just reacting like a machine is what they have a bit more than 2 months to work on.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:37 PM) How come when we talk about good pitching we leave out relievers?? The sox have killed a lot of good relief pitching this year. This is not something new. We sleepwalk through a game getting 2-3 hit and then in the 8th or 9th we make this mad dash. Last year we did the same thing. After Jaret Wright shut us down for most of the game, Smoltz came in and then got thumped.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:21 PM) I know I've heard this year that the sox don't score off mediocre pitchers, that they don't score off tough pitchers either, somehow I find that hard to believe. This team for the most part isn't going to put a 10 spot up but most of the time they'll score you atleast 4 runs and with this pitching that's good enough. We are going to face possible playoff oponents in the next 30 days. The Yanks, the bosox and the Angels with Vlad, and Baltimore. I dont worry about our pitching, I worry like crazy about our hitting. Why does everyone ignore that BA, OBP, Hits, K's, BB and where we stand as an offense but just repeat the montra that we score a lot of runs. However for the last few years scoring runs for a season stat was never a problem. It was consistancy and getting shut down by good pitching and bad pitching. Middle of the road pitching we killed.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:18 PM) runs We led in runs for the last few years. I thought we changed the offensive makeup of the team last year. I see low BA, lots of homers and a good amount of runs. If we were in the middle of the pack in BA, OBP, hits, doubles, clutch stats sure. We are near the bottom in the league in OBP. So that means we have a problem being patient at the plate. We are low in walks. Which goes with stat #1. We are low in BA, doubles, clutch stats. But we score runs and hit a lot of homers. Sounds like a formula for being stagnant when we face good pitching. And shocking when we face good pitching we get shut down.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) Minus the most important number. Look at our hitting and just compare all numbers. Outside of homers which we have been near the top for years and runs which we have been near the top for years the rest of its is bad or worse.

QUOTE(Southside hitmen @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 01:01 PM) Patrick (Chicago): I know you're writing off the White Sox but would you at least give them a second look if they acquire Burnett or Schmidt? Rob Neyer: (3:00 PM ET ) Oh, a little bit, I guess. But the problem isn't the pitching; the White Sox can throw three solid starters at you in a postseason series. The problem is the hitting; they're sixth in the American League in scoring, and they're in real danger of falling a couple of notches below that. Plus, have you seen their record when not playing other AL Central teams? It's 31-24, which is fine but far from special. The only valid thing is the hitting concern. If anyone remembers in 2000, we had a much better hitting team as a whole but they froze up and couldnt hit a lick in the playoffs. Now we have a team that barely hits during the season. These guys have got to start hitting better. I hate Neyer as much as they next guy, but the numbers on offense are terrible.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Hmmm, Neyer dissing the Sox? No Way! This coming from the guy who thinks the Royals pitching is much improved every year. Eric Cartmanstillias just boned us on the Dan Patrick show. For the whitesox to have a good season they will have to win one playoff series. Which will be difficult. They have a great record, but the playoffs are a different matter. Maybe he and the Crypt Keeper Boston Gammons can stop smoking the Red Sox pole for a second to give other teams props.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) 60% chance of rain... boy id be pissed if tonight was rained out. The sodfather's field will take that rain and laugh at it.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) Who knows, it was him that said it. Thats the kind of guy we want to bring here. A guy who quits on his team thats in first place.

After Mark shuts them down for more of the game with 86mph finese and toughness. I want to see Bobby Jenks shove 100mph heater right down the pipe to K big Papi and Ramirez.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 10:11 AM) Agreed, any right hander that has a good arm is not a good match up for rowand ( main reason he should not bat third against righties... he is too overmatched at this point. Everett should be in the lineup tonight over Frank on this one.

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 10:01 AM) I am hoping it was Yankee Stadium and Fenway that got into Jose's head.... Lifetime 13.50 ERA against the bosox. Methinks it was more of the great hitting team that pounded him, like the tigers did than the aura of Fenway and Yankee stadium. This is the best hitting team we will face this year. They have the best BA, best OBP, and highest OPS. This is why this is a true test of our team. Our pitching has to shut down a real sound hitting club while our hitters must get their heads out of their collective asses and get some runs up on the board. The first two games we have shut down type pitchers going for the whitesox. We should win those.

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:58 AM) 8 hours til gametime......but I always wanted to start one..... Clement vs. MB gonna be a great matchup..... one question though I was reading on bosox.com that this is Clements first start against us. I could have sworn we have faced him before when he was with the scrubs..... Lets right the ship with this one tonight and beat the champs..... Battle of the Sox round 1 (ding ding) We need to win this one and tomorrow night before the cubans face the bosox.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:40 AM) If Uribe was included in the deal, it makes alot of sense for both teams. The Marlins get a young SS signed for 3 years, and the White Sox get a very solid SS who wants to play for Ozzie. I would do it ina heartbeat. Gonzales and Uribe are the same creature. One just has a better batting stance. Both like to go for power and fall in love with their power making them streaky hitters. Both play great defense and have cannon arms. Both have high strikeout rates. Vizquel I can see getting him. But Gonzales, no.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 09:18 PM) he is a terrific option. KW has been after him before as well. unfortunately in a sellers market he will command alot in return, but thats how it will be for just about everybody. lets not forget he has playoff experience with arizona in 2001, and if i remember correctly, he did very well, 2 hits in 7 innings the LCS. chemistry is also not an issue with him, as i believe a few years ago he was voted "the best guy in baseball" He would be perfect at the Cell also. He has a lot of sink to his pitches and would be a ground ball machine. Plus his velocity is still there. And no back issues. :banghead

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) It can be a real life game thread behind homeplate. "f*** YOU CRUDDY" "KONERKO YOUR SLOWASS f***IN SUCKS" "CORPSEBALL, CORPSEBALL, CORPSESBALL." I promise not to yell corpseball. LOL The Cruddy and Kong statements however I cannot make those promises.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 09:12 AM) Thing is AJ's whole career he's been a great hitter to all fields, he'll snap out of it, he's just been slumping for a bit. I agree though, aj's been pulling everything but with the way he's handled the pitching staff this year I won't ride him about his offense cause that's secondary. I agree his handling of the pitching staff is great. I think because his status is kind of in limbo after this year. They should extend a contract offer to him and get that off his mind. I think he is going for homers to prove he can pop for power like other catchers. This guy was a sox killer when he hit to all fields. He can do it again. There was an article during the sox-cubs series about how they had recognized that he was pulling the ball too much and he was working on hitting to left and left center.