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Playing as many LHH as possible I guess but Benintendi should be benched .He provides nothing offensively or defensively. Teams run on his arm constantly, he's slow, he has more negative WAR than any position player in baseball which means that despite being terrible that he continues to play.

Maybe Getz can lay some groundwork for a Fedde trade with the O's. I hope Fedde pitches well against them. LFG !

Sox are more risk adverse and even more with pitchers. Crochet has been a huge surprise. He's been a great story so far. He's surpassed his career high in IP already.He's maintaining his velocity. He's learning how to approach different lineups. He's learning how to be a starting pitcher. I'd see how he holds up for the rest of the season if he isn't traded and approach him with a modest team friendly offer that buy out 2 FA years. Maybe with an opt out for the 2nd FA year in case he's become an elite 180 IP guy by then. He's still got 2 more Arb. Years in 2025 and 2026. It's just too hard with his health problems to know if can make it through the rest of 24 , then 25 and 26 without missing major portions of 3 straight seasons and know what his salaries will be in 25 and 2026. There's no reason to start offering him $10M+ per year and tieing up money when even if he stays 100% healthy hes not likely to make $20M combined in 25 and 26. What exactly do you project his salary to be next year ? There's a long way to go this season to determine just next year's salary. Is it possible to go from his 800K 2024 salary to $10M next year even if he manages to pitch 125+ innings ? What if they completely shut his down or start limiting his innings to just 3 innings per start ? The rest of the plan for this year is a complete mystery.

Unfortunately his 2023 was not that good and his track record was not long enough to know which Cease your were going to get. He also went deep into too many counts and struggled to get past 5 innings. The outing before this one he was hit pretty hard. Overall he's doing very well. The Padres gave up some good prospects and a relief pitcher for him. If 2023 was better the Sox would have got more . Also saying NY, Baltimore fans and some here didn't think he was very good is disingenuous. Most of us just disagreed about what he was worth. Was he Cy Young worthy like 2022 or a 4.5 ERA like 2023 ? Snell had 2 Cy Young's and he wasn't getting top offers from teams because he also didn't go deeper in games and didn't show the consistency of an elite pitcher.

Great to see. Great start to his AA career .

Drew McDaniel . Thanks for the info. May have found a diamond in the rough. I look forward to learning more about him .

Usually he's wild as hell though. Kopech needs to get it right. Sox can't get it right unless Kopech holds up his end. Holding him longer does not guarantee better results.

There's a chance Clevinger is pushed back to open the Orioles series and Nastrini starts tomorrow.

Greg the only guys likely traded are those guys who have only a year or 2 left on their contracts and/or who were signed specifically hoping for enough of a bounce back in their careers to be traded. Moncada and Eloy didn't stay healthy enough to even present that opportunity. They'll be gone next year along with their inflated salaries. Soroka , Brebbia, Hill, Kopech, DeJong, Pham ,Wilson , Flexen all likely gone if they can find buyers for them. No one will take Benintendi's contract.Mendick is a 30 yr old jouneyman. Who are they supposed to keep ? Next year regardless is looking like a 3rd straight year of 100 losses no matter what they do unless JR opens his wallet back up a lot more than expected . And even if he does what then ? Anyone any good costs more than JR would pay. The leftovers are going to be guys just as likely to be bad as good but who cost a minimum of $10-20M per year for multiple years . This is where Hahn had to live and most of his signings in that price range were terrible.

Unlike Mr. Glass, Eloy is not a villain. There's no need to hate him. He is what he is. He can keep coming back and keep getting injured with another team and enjoy an early retirement with millions.

If he can pitch more like tonight leading up to the deadline he's as good as gone.

5 of 6 in save opportunities. Tonight wasn't a save situation but that was a dominant inning. As good as any 1 inning we've seen from him this year.

That's a big 5-0 White Sox Weiner on $1 Hot Dog Night in Toronto. Speaking of weiners, Danny Mendick blasted a 2 out 2 run double high off the fence in LF to give the Sox their final 2 runs. Crochet pitched 6 innings of 2 hit shutout baseball. Leasure, Brebbia and Kopech each pitched an inning without any runs . Kopech K'd all 3 hitters he faced looking. Sox snap a 4 game losing streak with the rubber match tomorrow, Bassitt v. Clevinger. Weiners for everyone !

Big Danny Dick 2out 2 run double !

PF and NH gone

He got way up when he robbed the HR in NY.

Too early for the NH watch ?

Theres also Wilmer Difo , 32, an MLB veteran who it looks like can play 2nd base pretty good from some recent highlite reels I've seen. He also looks like a better hitter than Lopez from his previous time in the bigs . He's doing pretty good so far in Charlotte. AAAA guy for sure and just another deck chair but he fits right in and may be a slight upgrade over most of the guys you mentioned.

I'd have to agree with your assessment and there's the unknown of ownership be it JR operating as he always has or a new owner. I also said 4 or 5 years down the road so if someone thinks it's 3 to get into a playoff game which was my other caveat besides ownership to qualify as a contender fine by me. But realistically the chances of making the playoffs in a shorter time period diminishes your chances of being correct. Not you T R U , I agree with you . Too many unknowns and counting on many prospects to play well when just Montgomery is expected to arrive in 2025. Arriving and thriving never seen to match up at the same time .

If you look at the 2024 Sox they are building from nothing. I don't see a many players who the Sox have on the MLB team now that will still be here when the 2027 season starts. Maybe Korey Lee and Ramos. Realistically who turns into a quality MLB player from AA in just 3 years from now ? Anyone who comes up will be maybe I'm their 2nd season . Others will be rookies or trying to get a foothold up here. I try not to overestimate the talent so I'm conservative with my estimates and knowing it'll take more than a few players from the farm to field a team capable of playing a wild card playoff game. I also don't know if JR will still be in charge or what level of talent will be brought back from a Robert trade or whoever else they get this deadline. I'd also feel better about massive upgrades in how they operate internationally and with player development. And while I don't condemn Getz because of JR I don't have much faith in the organization as a whole if JR is still in charge.

Did we ever figure out what is was that made him appear to have vertigo ? Was that 2023 ? I remember his play in CF was not very good at the time but his hitting didn't seem to suffer all that much and he put up best season of health and hitting even though you list 6 injuries in 2023.

Come on Lip. You know who the owner is. You know the budget was cut tremendously this year. You heard Reinsdorf say the Sox cannot compete at their current location. Use your head. Getz is a pawn in whatever game Reinsdorf is playing. He's got nothing to work with except the decent amount of talent that's in AA right now. His big acquisition was Fedde, a guy no one else of the other teams thought highly enough of to outbid the Sox even though most teams need starting pitching. All Fedde has to do is not implode for 2 more months. We'll see what type of talent he gets and the level in the system it goes to. Same thing with Pham. Cease brought in 3 prospects that slotted in our top 10 and he rolled the dice that Wilson might fetch a better prospect than a 4th prospect the Padres might've been offering. Every pitcher after Fedde was the reason he hired Bannister as are any yet to be acquired. When all you can do is scrounge among players that every other team rejected you can thank Reinsdorf for that. There's been no solid evidence that Getz has done much wrong. He hasn't been on the job long enough yet to decide that all the roster churning he's doing will make any difference. He knows they are at a minimum looking 4 or 5 years down the road. And even then who knows where thing will stand with the franchise . All we can do is hope he brings in more talent and that it develops enough to move the needle going forward with whatever JR has up his sleeve. I don't know if Getz will be any better or worse than any other pawn JR hired to GM the team but I do know that JR doesn't pay for talent because they refuse to operate under the constraints JR puts on them. When was the last time a JR hire was considered among the very best in any part of the organization ? Now imagine the best people at multiple key levels of the organization instead of just one position without Reinsdorf's short sighted approach on how to be a competitive winning organization .

He hit 96/97 consistently through the 1st 3 innings.Didnt seem to have control..Walked 4 guys but got out of the jams so looks like he can maintain it a certain amount of pitchers. I'm not sure how many pitches he had through those 1st three innings. I didn't see anything above 94 in his 4th inning but turned out to be either his best or 2nd best inning of the 4. I know people think he's toast but if you can start throwing strikes at 96/97 and find your command he'd get much better results and the Sox have 2 months to figure out how to get the most value out of him. Maybe he's just been holding back as a starter trying to go 5 or 6 innings by not throwing at max effort . He's had a tough row to hoe with all the injuries and is still young enough to readjust. There are mental and physical things to push through. That takes time to happen . It's hard enough to just figure out that your best that worked in the past isn't going to consistently get MLB hitters out and you have to add a pitch that can take years to figure out. Steve Stone said he tried a change up many times but could never get it right or feel comfortable with it. There are just so many different things you can try. As a player you could win Cy Young or MVP but that doesn't mean you ever stop trying to improve . Most players have enough talent to be decent MLB players but the true secret to succeed is often reinventing yourself. You're constantly revolving and developing as your body and strengths change.This is why we so often hear, yet disregard, that development isn't linear. It's also why player development at every level is so important. Baseball is so unique and required a great deal of patience and mental fortitude to work through many failures .

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2 runs that inning was a nice surprise. Pedro loading the line up with RHH. Likely takes more though to beat the Yanks. Julks solo shot to LF . Lee walked Remillard tripled Lee home. Remillard picked off 3rd with 1 out. Did someone miss a sign ? What happened there ?